Naruto and Sasuke vs Hagoromo

[HENI]

Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke vs Prime Hagoromo

which one wins?

 

[MomoSaka]

Hagoromo wins I guess.....

 

[Uchihaa Sasuke]

Hagoromo have a rinnegan < Sasuke have a rinnegan + EMS
+
Hagoromo have rsm < Naruto (possibly still) have rsm + bijuu
=
Hagoromo loses

 

[Scryed]

At his prime? JJ Hagoromo?

He stomps them. Mid difficulty at worst.

 

[Holy God]

Naruto and Sasuke win based upon what we know about Hagoromo.

 

[DrProof]

Naruto and Sasuke win based upon what we know about Hagoromo.

Hagoromo gave them the power that allowed them to shit on Madara, and seal Kaguya. Hagoromo in no way loses this.

 

[KidGamer65]

The majority of the power that makes up Sasuke and Naruto's current power is each half of Hagoromo's own power, without the Juubi. JJ Hagoromo destroys them.

 

[Holy God]

Hagoromo gave them the power that allowed them to shit on Madara, and seal Kaguya. Hagoromo in no way loses this.

So because Hagoromo helped them awaken power that means he's stronger? Yeah, that's terrible logic. The fact is that Naruto has a Six Paths Sage Mode that rivals Ten-Tails hosts and Sasuke has a Rinnegan that is more advanced than the original. If you have some other sort of valid reason for why Hagoromo could win, it could be considered.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

They lose to him badly, there is no half the power bullshit idiocracy here those shadow and light stuff he handed out are gone now.
Hagoromoo's senjutsu is much greater than Adult naruto and in terms of rinnegan, Hagoromoo has a tremendous amount of six path chakra even after death to be summoned upon so rinnegan will be superior to everyone else.

Lastly he ha a kekkai mora, so that argument just ended right there.

 

[DrProof]

So because Hagoromo helped them awaken power that means he's stronger? Yeah, that's terrible logic. The fact is that Naruto has a Six Paths Sage Mode that rivals Ten-Tails hosts and Sasuke has a Rinnegan that is more advanced than the original. If you have some other sort of valid reason for why Hagoromo could win, it could be considered.

Bruh lmfao. He didn't help them awaken shit, he gave them that chakra. It's clear as day in the manga. Literally idek how you, or others can presume to think the adult versions of Naruto & Sasuke, who are weaker than their VoTE2 selves > Hagoromo. That's ridiculous.

 

[Holy God]

Bruh lmfao. He didn't help them awaken shit, he gave them that chakra. It's clear as day in the manga. Literally idek how you, or others can presume to think the adult versions of Naruto & Sasuke, who are weaker than their VoTE2 selves > Hagoromo. That's ridiculous.

I find it ridiculous how you base a win off "he gave them power" and that you think them being weaker than they were at Valley of the End has any relevance.

 

[Warlocks]

Hagoromo win :lol low dif

 

[Warlocks]

So because Hagoromo helped them awaken power that means he's stronger? Yeah, that's terrible logic. The fact is that Naruto has a Six Paths Sage Mode that rivals Ten-Tails hosts and Sasuke has a Rinnegan that is more advanced than the original. If you have some other sort of valid reason for why Hagoromo could win, it could be considered.

who told u he helped them awaken power

it was clearly state in manga that he give them power

 

[Holy God]

who told u he helped them awaken power

it was clearly state in manga that he give them power

Obviously he gave them power. It doesn't deter from my point.

 

[DrProof]

I find it ridiculous how you base a win off "he gave them power" and that you think them being weaker than they were at Valley of the End has any relevance.

If you're not willing to understand, then I can't help you. It's blatantly clear Hagoromo is superior. Them being weaker than their VoTE2 selves is relevant because you're arguing something that not even their VoTE2 selves could accomplish lol.

 

[Holy God]

If you're not willing to understand, then I can't help you. It's blatantly clear Hagoromo is superior. Them being weaker than their VoTE2 selves is relevant because you're arguing something that not even their VoTE2 selves could accomplish lol.

If it's so blatantly clear than you should be able to prove it, no? You claim Naruto and Sasuke can't win because not even themselves at Valley of the End can, but you provide literally no reason for either case except "he gave them power".

 

[DrProof]

If it's so blatantly clear than you should be able to prove it, no? You claim Naruto and Sasuke can't win because not even themselves at Valley of the End can, but you provide literally no reason for either cases except "he gave them power".

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[KidGamer65]

So because Hagoromo helped them awaken power that means he's stronger? Yeah, that's terrible logic. The fact is that Naruto has a Six Paths Sage Mode that rivals Ten-Tails hosts and Sasuke has a Rinnegan that is more advanced than the original. If you have some other sort of valid reason for why Hagoromo could win, it could be considered.

Since when did Naruto's RSM rival Juubi Jichuuriki? Since when was Sasuke's Rinnegan more advanced than the original? Since when did this line of logic support Naruto and Sasuke winning? How are two people inferior to Hagoromo individually capable of teaming up and beating him even after he's become the Juubi's Jin? The logic being used makes perfect sense. Naruto and Sasuke's overall power is each half of Hagoromo's power. Two halves (Sasuke and Naruto)=one whole (Hagoromo)

 

[Holy God]

Since when did Naruto's RSM rival Juubi Jichuuriki?

His sensing, strength, and speed are on par with Madara as shown in the Databook and manga, as well as his ability to strike Kaguya without reaction when angered.

Since when was Sasuke's Rinnegan more advanced than the original?

He only requires one to use the full benefits of two as well as his Sharingan powers being embedded into it, making things such as genjutsu possible.

Since when did this line of logic support Naruto and Sasuke winning? How are two people inferior to Hagoromo individually capable of teaming up and beating him even after he's become the Juubi's Jin? The logic being used makes perfect sense. Naruto and Sasuke's overall power is each half of Hagoromo's power. Two halves (Sasuke and Naruto)=one whole (Hagoromo)

You're forgetting that the Ten-Tails' power is respective to the host's before absorbing it. In Obito's case for example, he gains an array of new abilities and far greater attributes. For someone like Hagoromo, who already has Six Paths Sage Mode, he's not reaping very much benefits.

Yes, Naruto and Sasuke have each half of Hagoromo's power, but they aren't just halves themselves. They have powers that Hagoromo doesn't, like the Sharingan and nine Tailed Beasts.

 

[KidGamer65]

His sensing, strength, and speed are on par with Madara as shown in the Databook and manga, as well as his ability to strike Kaguya without reaction when angered.



He only requires one to use the full benefits of two as well as his Sharingan powers being embedded into it, making things such as genjutsu possible.



You're forgetting that the Ten-Tails' power is respective to the host's before absorbing it. In Obito's case for example, he gains an array of new abilities and far greater attributes. For someone like Hagoromo, who already has Six Paths Sage Mode, he's not reaping very much benefits.

Yes, Naruto and Sasuke have each half of Hagoromo's power, but they aren't just halves themselves. They have powers that Hagoromo doesn't, like the Sharingan and nine Tailed Beasts.

Ok.

But then that doesn't help show that him + Naruto are better than Hagoromo, because the only reason his Rinnegan is "better" than the rest is because he retains abilities he already had prior.

-Juubi's chakra arms are the Juubi's physical strength. That's a benefit Hagoromo doesn't have.
-Bijuu Dama is another.
-Regeneration is another.

The only things Hagoromo shares w/ the Juubi are the Gudo Dama. Getting the Juubi itself is a large boost to every single ability the user already has so Hagoromo or anyone who becomes the Jin is clearly getting a large boost.

Yeah, but Hagoromo has the Juubi. Sharingan, Kurama and 8 pieces of the other Bijuu aren't cancelling out the tremendous increase in raw power alone that the Juubi grants. The only way to argue that these abilities change the outcome is if there was some sort of hax that they could take advantage of, but there isn't.