Hinata's grim fate (alternate)

[Avani]

They knew konoha would hand him over so would risk war wit konoha recovering from the 3rd war and severely weakened the cloud would've run rampant and captured many Hyuga women etc. Konoha would also implode because of its internal issues raised by what was happening with the Uchiha.

That doesn't make any sense. Something is wrong in that run on sentence or your alternate story.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Combined with raiton and they'd likely develop their own techniques with 27+ Half breeds floating around they'd have a new clan within 2 generations with 00's of members. Ay would be the new progenitor.

Explain Ao did he have some mist style rotation , all he did was use the eye

 

[salamander uchiha]

Doesn't matter Jiraiya's infiltration skills are far superior than Sasuke's. Guy's been following Orochimaru and Akatsuki for decades without ever getting caught. Whatever you say is irrelevant, Kumo nin aren't catching Jiraiya if he chose to infiltrate their village.
Heavy guard is irrelevant to Jiraiya's infiltration methods and Ay and Bee have better things to do than guard a single person. If an alarm is raised then they might come in to picture other than that no. Jiraiya could simply reach Hinata and reverse summon her to mount myoboku or put her inside into one of his toads and escape without being noticed, mission successful.
Danzo on the other hand could send a small team of elite ANBU root members and take out the security around Hinata, disguise her and move out. There are many ways it could be done.

The cloud has 0 traitors none of this was happening Bee doesn't go on missions he'd be part of guard duty they also have a brain washing unit.

The rest assumes a nation with military power 5/5 would let a coveted asset not be under extreme guard

 

[salamander uchiha]

That doesn't make any sense. Something is wrong in that run on sentence or your alternate story.

Phone typing quickly.
Konoha wouldn't hand over Hiashi and risk beef with an internal clan. They already had issues with the Uchiha.
The cloud knew this and wanted to instigate war and cause internal strife. Konoha was militarily weak after the 3rd war and with Minato gone they stood 0 chance.
The Uchiha were already alienated and wouldn't assist the leaf because of their isolation. In a nutshell the leaf were screwed.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Explain Ao did he have some mist style rotation , all he did was use the eye

Ao wasmt a born Hyuga and kohinata(Itachi shinden) a distant relatime of the Hyuga clan can use Hyuga jutsu

 

[FemmeFatale]

As wasmt a born Hyuga

If you bring up himawari , according to the animie it was apparently a fluke , and the byakugan emerging envolved an extensive amount of training

 

[salamander uchiha]

If you bring up himawari , according to the animie it was apparently a fluke , and the byakugan emerging envolved an extensive amount of training

Kohinata distant relative can use Hyuga jutsu you derive gentle fist style through reasoning maybe even innovate your own style of it.
As for Ay he's not the type to allow people to slack off.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The cloud has 0 traitors none of this was happening Bee doesn't go on missions he'd be part of guard duty they also have a brain washing unit.

The rest assumes a nation with military power 5/5 would let a coveted asset not be under extreme guard

As I said all Kumo isn't detecting Jiraiya if he chose to infiltrate extreme security or not.

 

[salamander uchiha]

As I said all Kumo isn't detecting Jiraiya if he chose to infiltrate extreme security or not.

Jiraiya can be detetected by sensors kumo has plenty of them. It was sensory rain that detected him. The only 2 there truly invisible to detection are Muu, Zetsu and possibly Orochimaru.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

cloud also kidnapped Kushina

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but thinking about the weird dark things like that ehhhhh.... I don't think so, more so they just want the eyes and might synthetically re create them

 

[Avani]

Phone typing quickly.
Konoha wouldn't hand over Hiashi and risk beef with an internal clan. They already had issues with the Uchiha.
The cloud knew this and wanted to instigate war and cause internal strife. Konoha was militarily weak after the 3rd war and with Minato gone they stood 0 chance.
The Uchiha were already alienated and wouldn't assist the leaf because of their isolation. In a nutshell the leaf were screwed.

How does any of that fill the holes in this alternative plot scenario given in the first post?

cloud also kidnapped Kushina


but thinking about the weird dark things like that ehhhhh....

Kumo has a record of trying to kidnap little girls. And it seems to give some users an idea to spice things up to their personal tastes. Ikemoto doesn't provide fan service for nothing. :eww:

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Jiraiya can be detetected by sensors kumo has plenty of them. It was sensory rain that detected him. The only 2 there truly invisible to detection are Muu, Zetsu and possibly Orochimaru.

Jiraiya's Hiding in a Toad Technique obstructs chakra and prevents the user from being detected. So ordinary sensors won't work either.

 

[salamander uchiha]

cloud also kidnapped Kushina


but thinking about the weird dark things like that ehhhhh.... I don't think so, more so they just want the eyes and might synthetically re create them

They don't have the tech for that they wanted a female for grooming and the process would be easier. She wasn't just a random target it was well thought out. The detail yhey knew it's likely they had inside intel

How does any of that fill the holes in this alternative plot scenario given in the first post?

There aren't holes it's an alternate and I'm not going to write a whole essay on the topic.

Jiraiya's Hiding in a Toad Technique obstructs chakra and prevents the user from being detected. So ordinary sensors won't work either.

Your right that technique is for water and swamps infiltration not up in the clouds the heart of kumo. You'd think somebody really stupid not to notice a toad. Kumo also has barrier specialists they were guarding Bee and Naruto. They'd also be able to tell a barrier toad etc.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

They don't have the tech for that they wanted a female for grooming and the process would be easier. She wasn't just a random target it was well thought out. The detail yhey knew it's likely they had inside intel



There aren't holes it's an alternate and I'm not going to write a whole essay on the topic.



Your right that technique is for water and swamps infiltration not up in the clouds the heart of kumo. You'd think somebody really stupid not to notice a toad. Kumo also has barrier specialists they were guarding Bee and Naruto. They'd also be able to tell a barrier toad etc.

Well a toad is not that big and could easily avoid being seen so yeah. Jiraiya spied on the Akatsuki and Oro for decades lol, I am sure they are much more capable of detecting an infiltration than the fodder nins of Kumo.
How do they tell whether its a barrier toad or not? All your replies are based on assumptions like they should be able to this and do that lol with no evidence to support them.

 

[Avani]

There aren't holes it's an alternate and I'm not going to write a whole essay on the topic.

That's, indeed, very kind of you to not write a whole essay with rape( minor rape at that) and forced pregnancy fantasies involved. Cookies?

 

[salamander uchiha]

Well a toad is not that big and could easily avoid being seen so yeah. Jiraiya spied on the Akatsuki and Oro for decades lol, I am sure they are much more capable of detecting an infiltration than the fodder nins of Kumo.
How do they tell whether its a barrier toad or not? All your replies are based on assumptions like they should be able to this and do that lol with no evidence to support them.

Not assumptions Databook the 3rd 1 go read about the technique and it's only a c rank jutsu to boot. And Jiraiya never spied on Orochimaru or Akatsuki. He tried do you really believe Jiraiya would allow Akatsuki to roam free or not stop Orochimaru.

 

[salamander uchiha]

That's, indeed, very kind of you to not write a whole essay with rape( minor rape at that) and forced pregnancy fantasies involved. Cookies?

I gave general outlines and 0 about toddler rape the onky thing i dis mention was what Kumo intended. once they'd groomed her she'd be a submissive at any age and I used 18 as the bar. They didn't want to be feed her he and crumpets that's for sure.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Not assumptions Databook the 3rd 1 go read about the technique and it's only a c rank jutsu to boot. And Jiraiya never spied on Orochimaru or Akatsuki. He tried

I am sure Kumo has rivers and lakes connected with other villages and its not like the toad can't survive on land and sensors have a range and they need to activate it to even sense someone, Jiraiya doesn't even need to stay in his toad form all the time. He only needs to use the technique before entering the sensor's range and reach Hinata.
And Jiraiya did spy on Orochimaru and Akatsuki directly and indirectly.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I am sure Kumo has rivers and lakes connected with other villages and its not like the toad can't survive on land and sensors have a range and they need to activate it to even sense someone, Jiraiya doesn't even need to stay in his toad form all the time. He only needs to use the technique before entering the sensor's range and reach Hinata.
And Jiraiya did spy on Orochimaru and Akatsuki directly and indirectly.

Kumogakure is hidden in the clouds (not in the rivers). Sensors range starts from them then expands outwards. Then you have barrier teams and you have Bee who's confned to the village. He'd likely be given the duty of protecting the 2nd most valuable asset(Hinata). You keep your most prized possession in a place which is the most fortified (near the strongest guards etc/ near the raikage). Kumo isn't a fodder nation according to the data book they have 5/5 military strength. You don't get strength like that by being a fodder nation.

Jiraiya could never get close enough he'd take out any threats to his godson if he could. His spying on the Akatsuki would've been general the same for Orochimaru.
Jiraiya is a good character and best hope of konoha but the terrain itself is his downfall shortf coming unless your implying Jiraiya could solo the strongest miltary power in the nv. Konoha had 3/5 rating incase your wondering.

Jiraiya getting busted would've caused the war that would've wiped konoha out. With an alienated and isolated Uchiha clan it was game set and match.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Disgusting.. And in a show that targeted kids in p1... Can hardly say i'm surprised though considering the members supporting what the disgusting OP clearly implies.

Oh yeah because realizing the reality of a scenario in the show means you support it happening. Could you be more disingenuous?