Did Indra fight alone, outnumbered?

[uhmusddy]

you tried it,

Hagoromo was talking in retrospect about Ashura before he awakened his power

 

[davidou]

Indra wasn't outnumbered, but he was overpowered.

 

[Nanashii]

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Ashura on his own, rivaled his Brother's power.

OT : I'm sure he had followers who shared his ideals.

After all the feud between the two was that of ideals.

Ashura still had power from Hagoromo

 

[davidou]

Ashura still had power from Hagoromo

Hago gave him the power to rule over ninshuu by giving him the title of protector of ninshuu because he wasn' t a spoiled antipathic arrogant and unsociable child.That was the thing to do.

 

[Nick01]

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[NarutoX28]

Stop the wank, Ashura and Indra were stated to be equal by Hagoromo.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Uchiha faps posting scans out of context....:lol

They fought 1 v 1 to a tie and died.

 

[00Rinne]

That scan only shows that he's capable of training on his own and achieving results whereas Asura only got results via training with others.

That doesn't literally mean that Indra was a lone wolf lol. Even Madara and Sasuke relied on other people to achieve their goals. Indra was no different, otherwise the Uchiha Clan wouldn't exist.

^^^THIS

It's almost as if no1 in the thread understands that..

Madara had Izuna & Hashirama then Kaguya
Sasuke had Kakashi Orochimaru & Itachi..

They didn't follow the lone wolf trail that Indra supposedly followed at all to get to their respected states..
Only thing I can see is that Indra was closer to the source power Kaguya so his chakra was different then that of Madara/Sasuke..

MS Indra had PS with probably no blindness back-draws from his MS.. Sasuke/Madara wasn't/isn't Indra at all in that regard at all along with chakra & CR..

 

[whiteboy2345]

Hago gave him the power to rule over ninshuu by giving him the title of protector of ninshuu because he wasn' t a spoiled antipathic arrogant and unsociable child.That was the thing to do.

Hagoromo said he gave Asura the title of successor, and power. I've posted the scan, and I'll do it again. You shouldn't deny manga facts.

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In this scan, he talks about the power he gave Naruto and Sasuke and compares it to the power he gave Asura.

 

[davidou]

Hagoromo said he gave Asura the title of successor, and power. I've posted the scan, and I'll do it again. You shouldn't deny manga facts.

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In this scan, he talks about the power he gave Naruto and Sasuke and compares it to the power he gave Asura.

He is talking about giving power to Indra, Naruto and Sasuke in that scan.

 

[NarutoX28]

Hagoromo said he gave Asura the title of successor, and power. I've posted the scan, and I'll do it again. You shouldn't deny manga facts.

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In this scan, he talks about the power he gave Naruto and Sasuke and compares it to the power he gave Asura.

Leadership is a form of power which explains why Indra sought to be a leader in the first place. After all, Hagoromo laments why they could never get along and it was because Hagoromo made Ashura a leader and "neglected" Indra hence their constant fighting.

 

[Dantee]

Leadership is a form of power which explains why Indra sought to be a leader in the first place. After all, Hagoromo laments why they could never get along and it was because Hagoromo made Ashura a leader and "neglected" Indra hence their constant fighting.

Ashura leadership gave him all those followers. He used his power to take theirs and used it in battle. He also awakened other powers such as Sage Mode, that he trained for.

 

[NarutoX28]

Ashura leadership gave him all those followers. He used his power to take theirs and used it in battle. He also awakened other powers such as Sage Mode, that he trained for.

That doesn't sound like someone who only became powerful through hardwork and cooperation. Cooperation involves solidarity which would not lead to Ashura stealing others powers through his own.

Seems like you're describing a sadistic bastard like Orochimaru.

 

[Dantee]

That doesn't sound like someone who became powerful through hardwork.

Seems like you're describing a sadistic bastard like Orochimaru.

If Ashura is like Naruto then it would come from messiah complex then.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He is talking about giving power to Indra, Naruto and Sasuke in that scan.

No. He was talking about bequeathing power to Ashura, then Naruto and Sasuke later down the years in that scan.
That's why Indra attacked him in the first place, he didn't get handed down anything.

 

[whiteboy2345]

He is talking about giving power to Indra, Naruto and Sasuke in that scan.

Hagoromo didn't give Indra anything. Not in one manga-scan did he hand Indra power. Indra was just born with the Sharingan, and even then, Hagoromo didn't have the Sharingan, Kaguya did.

Hagoromo gave Asura something, he gave Asura power, which is the same power he gave Naruto and the opposite of that power he gave to Sasuke.

 

[whiteboy2345]

No. He was talking about bequeathing power to Ashura, then Naruto and Sasuke later down the years in that scan.
That's why Indra attacked him in the first place, he didn't get handed down anything.

It bothers them that Asura tied with his brother despite being helped by his father. It hurts their pride in the Asura bloodline. If anything it speaks volumes about how powerful Indra might have been as a character.

 

[Michael]

Everything about the Indra vs Ashura fued was just as I predicted. Ashura borrowed power using ninshuu from his followers. Its pretty amazing when you think about how ninshuu can be used for the wrong reasons.

My man, crawl back into your hole and stay irrelevant.

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[salamander uchiha]

Hashirama's Databook however states that he doesn't have the Yin Nature. Though he used genjutsu so you might be right lol.

Hashirama has all 5 natures + Yin and yang release according to 4th databook.

 

[salamander uchiha]

My man, crawl back into your hole and stay irrelevant.

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That's reffering to chakra the same powerful chakra indra had but Ashura had nothing to counter the spiritual energy and sages eyes. So that's why daddy gave him a handout and that's what fodderSura fans fail to realise. It was the only way he could match the might of Indra and manage to tie. Some incarnates like Hashirama inherit this handout other like Fodderuto don't so do lots of begging and take help from others or the sage himself bestows it upon them.