Byakugan/Sharringan - Chakra Tree - Jougan/Jagan - Evoltion/Plot and the Ootsutski

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Plz, xmiso, stop it. You're making Hyuga/Hinata fans look even worse than they already do.

Get your troll ass out of here and go troll somewhere else. Unless you're ready to get your 3rd ban in less than a week.
 

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Yea Hagoromo explained while back that no matter how excellent the parents are, the child cannot inherit from both parents genes and can only attain one of their abilities. This sound exactly like Momoshiki said to Naruto that he had all this power yet could not passed down to Boruto.

If what Hagoromo said are true, then Boruto Joagan definitely have ties with Hinata and hamura decree

for now it is all up in the air

we know Naruto didn't pass down the tailed chakra but maybe something else like his pure essence or something that Hagromo was trying to do with the 10 tails
 

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I'm not for real, of course Hinata isn't as strong as Itachi, but young Itachi being able to kill off his clan already proves how weak they generally are. Geniuses like Itachi don't represent the entire Uchiha clan.

You tried to convince us that the Byakugan is irrelevant, because you're a salty troll with nothing better to do than report other members and stalk the Hyuga FC. F*cking troll lol.

Get rid of the last line fam, you know Vulpini will report you :lol
 

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I'm not for real, of course Hinata isn't as strong as Itachi, but young Itachi being able to kill off his clan already proves how weak they generally are. Geniuses like Itachi don't represent the entire Uchiha clan.

You tried to convince us that the Byakugan is irrelevant, because you're a salty troll with nothing better to do than report other members and stalk the Hyuga FC. F*cking troll lol.

I don't know, the fact that someone like Obito was needed to wipe them out shows how not fodder they were and how imperative it was for him to be there to help Itachi. If Obito was forced to handle the entire police force, that means Hinata would probably get raped.
 

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you likely need a pure byakugan to also get a Jagan
just pushing in chakra and more chakra would just mean making a more potent chakra fruit/tree, which means a more powerful RinneSharringan.

The hard part is for the Chakra to merge correctly with the said pure byakugan once it does via pure means/ good means it becomes the Jougan. Once it does via unpure means/ bad means it become a Jagan. The RinneSharringan's power scale is proportional to the chakra tree level.

for all we know you can make a level 100 RinneSharringan

Boruto getting the Jougan, besides plot is due to his father's good pure chakra or whatever and a pure byakugan; a Jougan can't be corrupt.

Likely a Jagan might be impure but it would also be really stable like the Jougan a complete polar of dark chakra merging with a pure byakugan or a impure byakugan (idk) and becoming the Jagan.

Unlike the RinneSharringan the eyes isn't decorative and is more primary in design due to its stability
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Is this Jagan a real thing or just a fanfic?
 

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Also there were people early on saying Boruto's eye is similar to the edo tensei eyes
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seeing as in my theory it is the actual, successfully reincarnated byakugan and not the tenseigan then yes in a sense it is a eye from the dead :p


Also Boruto likely has base byakugans too for this to happen and I assume he will learn to default back into them as well
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Also his sister's byakugan might be more purer then his Mother's and Aunt's
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Well, assuming you are correct that the goal of the Ootsutsuki is to find a fruit powerful enough to give the Jougan, then it would make sense why they haven't yet been able to achieve it. Like you said, the consumption of the fruit only adds its own power/eye to the user as evidenced by Momoshiki and Kaguya. The chakra has to be passed down and mixed to create new abilities and evolutions. We also know that the Ootsutsuki pass on power to their next generation by converting their elders to chakra fruits and consuming them. Even when Momoshiki absorbs Kinshiki, he only got a chakra boost plus Kinshiki's ability to create weapons (at least in the movie lol).

It reminds me of Itachi's quote. "You Focus on the Trivial, and lose sight of what is most important, Change is impossible in this fog of ignorance. How can we Evolve when Regulation is all we know?"
 

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Jougan is just a mutation and not Otsutsuki's Byakugan evolution. That if this eye came from mixture of blood but if it actually a pure Byakugan evolution that had nothing to do with hamura blood/Ashura blood/Chakra fruit bla,bla. I can say this Eye is the first of its kind. But it seems that Toneri know about this eye all along.
 

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Good read... for those who can really read.
 

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Jougan is just a mutation and not Otsutsuki's Byakugan evolution. That if this eye came from mixture of blood but if it actually a pure Byakugan evolution that had nothing to do with hamura blood/Ashura blood/Chakra fruit bla,bla. I can say this Eye is the first of its kind. But it seems that Toneri know about this eye all along.

Kinshiki was also shown to be able to use kamui as well so maybe Joagan does have ties to outside of the ootsutski.
 

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Kinshiki was also shown to be able to use kamui as well so maybe Joagan does have ties to outside of the ootsutski.

But as of right now this eye is just an upgrade Byakugan. A Byakugan that have more deeper vision capability. Still no destructive capability of HAX. So nothing to be proud yet.
 

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Hanabi's Byakugan seems to be the true pure eye.

They're the only confirmed pure Byakugan and they awoke the Tenseigan without arsepull. Yet you have Fodderata fappers claiming fodderata has the pure Byakugan. Boruto's Jogan takes the concept of eye from Hinata but has Kurama's sensing power which is its purity (to sense evil). Nothing to do with Fodderata having pure eyes bit her fappers live in denial. As for Naruto he served mainly as a vessel for Kurama to express his love to Hinata.
 

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what's the real use of Hanabi's pure eyes if she can't wield it to its optimal use?
Stop using Hanabi and her Byakugan to trash on Hinata. Even Hanabi who you idolize oh so greatly wouldn't do that.
 

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what's the real use of Hanabi's pure eyes if she can't wield it to its optimal use?
Stop using Hanabi and her Byakugan to trash on Hinata. Even Hanabi who you idolize oh so greatly wouldn't do that.

Somebody's salty of course Hanabi can use them hee choosing not to doesn't mean she can't. Stop using Hanabi to justify fodderata fapping. Call a spade a spade Hanabi has pure eyes her eyes awoke Tenseigan. Hinata has eyes and had Hamura Chakra yet didn't awaken Tenseigan. It's evident that theirs a difference between the eyes.
Anyway I'm not trashing Hinata I dislike fappers trying to show Hinata is equal to Hanabi by comparing Fodderata's eyes to hers. It downgrades Hanabi's status so if they stop their fanfics I'm sure we can stop. The likeness of it if somebody tries to compare Uchiha Tekka to Uchiha Itachi is downgrades Itachi sama's status and elevates Tekka's.
 
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Somebody's salty of course Hanabi can use them hee choosing not to doesn't mean she can't. Stop using Hanabi to justify fodderata fapping. Call a spade a spade Hanabi has pure eyes her eyes awoke Tenseigan. Hinata has eyes and had Hamura Chakra yet didn't awaken Tenseigan. It's evident that theirs a difference between the eyes.
Anyway I'm not trashing Hinata I dislike fappers trying to show Hinata is equal to Hanabi by comparing Fodderata's eyes to hers. It downgrades Hanabi's status so if they stop their fanfics I'm sure we can stop.

I wouldnt stress that Hinata>>>Hanabi at this point. I have an idea on how much you downplay Hinata. The thing that is upsetting is how people like you use that fact as a leverage to put Hanabi above Hinata when in actuality, Hinata displayed more noteworthy feats, albeit being plot-induced. Hanabi having pure eyes isn't a big advantage over her older sister when the same eye status can be applied to Hianata's. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence. They are sisters of the Main House. They are both likely to have the purest of Byakugan than the possiility of Sakura surviving being split in half like Tsunade did (just because they both have Creation Rebirth doesnt give Sakura the same feat of survivng that circumstance). But nevermind this.

Salty? Pffftt. Hanabi and Hinata are my biases. I am merely protecting them from being misused.
 

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I do miss the theory threads. Great thread OP. I guess I have catching up to do with the bolt series :lol...
 

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I wouldnt stress that Hinata>>>Hanabi at this point. I have an idea on how much you downplay Hinata. The thing that is upsetting is how people like you use that fact as a leverage to put Hanabi above Hinata when in actuality, Hinata displayed more noteworthy feats, albeit being plot-induced. Hanabi having pure eyes isn't a big advantage over her older sister when the same eye status can be applied to Hianata's. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence. They are sisters of the Main House. They are both likely to have the purest of Byakugan than the possiility of Sakura surviving being split in half like Tsunade did (just because they both have Creation Rebirth doesnt give Sakura the same feat of survivng that circumstance). But nevermind this.

Salty? Pffftt. Hanabi and Hinata are my biases. I am merely protecting them from being misused.

Nice fanfic the proof is in the pudding. Hinata 5 years senior was fodder to Hanabi. Your bias is clear it implies Hanabi stayed the same and Hinata somehow excelled (not much though since she's still a chunin). Now purity of eyes is confirmed for Hanabi which is a definite and hereye power is also confirmed. From what we've seen when one recieved chakra from Hogaromo the effects are displayed pretty much instantly 6psm and upgraded rinnegan. So if Hogaromo's chakra does that then Hamura's should do the same correct so Hinata should have had Tenseigan yet she didn't get it. The only reason that could be is because her eyes aren't worthy 10 × 0= 0. Now no amount of fapping can change that.

I agree Hanabi's my bias and her hype is rightful hype but to downplay her hype by adding fodder to the mix annoys to no end. Hanabi is itachi 2.0, her eyes awoke Tenseigan at 13 Madara took a lifetime to awaken Rinnegan. Her level can be established if plot restrictions aren't applied.
 

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Nice fanfic the proof is in the pudding. Hinata 5 years senior was fodder to Hanabi. Your bias is clear it implies Hanabi stayed the same and Hinata somehow excelled (not much though since she's still a chunin). Now purity of eyes is confirmed for Hanabi which is a definite and hereye power is also confirmed. From what we've seen when one recieved chakra from Hogaromo the effects are displayed pretty much instantly 6psm and upgraded rinnegan. So if Hogaromo's chakra does that then Hamura's should do the same correct so Hinata should have had Tenseigan yet she didn't get it. The only reason that could be is because her eyes aren't worthy 10 × 0= 0. Now no amount of fapping can change that.

I agree Hanabi's my bias and her hype is rightful hype but to downplay her hype by adding fodder to the mix annoys to no end. Hanabi is itachi 2.0, her eyes awoke Tenseigan at 13 Madara took a lifetime to awaken Rinnegan. Her level can be established if plot restrictions aren't applied.

I get you. I clearly know already everything you said, we're reading the same stuff. So in the virtue of getting you, I'll shut up since I don't see a future here. We stand on different shores and I won't be riding the next boat toward your side. I can't really talk with someone who spews words like salty and fapping and fodder and fanfic and 10x0=0 like I didnt get all the Math Medals there were. Maybe if you were to formalise your words, we'll talk again.
 
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