Byakugan/Sharringan - Chakra Tree - Jougan/Jagan - Evoltion/Plot and the Ootsutski

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Okay I am going to break this down quickly.


The two main Dojutsu in the series and their trees, chain/cycle is the Sharingan and the Byakugan.
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In Naruto the series, we primarily saw the evolution and focus of the sharingan with the byakugan barely getting any development and info after the a climax in part 1 (The Neji vs Kidomaru fight.)

After that the byakugan didn't get anymore development from then on. We only knew that it was the origin or base point for certain dojutsu's like the sharingan.
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That all changed when Kaguya was introduced. A Being that at least for the Naruto world was the origin of chakra.

And low and Behold she had the Byakugan for both of her eyes and a RinneSharringan smacked in the middle of her forehead.

While the RinneSharringan was the result of a chakra fruit consumption, her two byakugan's were there since birth, a dojutsu that is wielded by the fabled Ootsutski clan.



Now to the point of this thread, I believe that the byakugan and its evolutionary chain is separate and more closer to the Ootsutki prime evolution or return to their original absolute power then the Sharringan chain is.


Of course you already know that since the Sharringan and its chain/tree (The Rinnegan/MS/EMS, etc...) is the result of the chakra fruit and not by a Ootsutki independently evolving the eye like a Uchiha clan member does since birth.


Let us step back for a second and look at some words and their meanings.


First the Byakugan.
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The Byakugan (白眼, Literally meaning: White Eye, Meaning (Viz): All Seeing White Eye)

The eye name is "White Eye" and is the default eye for the Ootsutki clan, the Hyuga and the Hamura Ootsutki on the moon.


The Tenseigan.
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The Tenseigan (転生眼, Literally meaning: Reincarnation Eye)

This eye is the evolutionary step of Ootsutki chakra at least Hamura chakra (will dive deep into this later) and a Pure Hyuga Byakugan like Hinata's or Hanabi's. The key point I am going to take away from particularly for this dicussion is it's meaning/name which is called the "Reincarnation Eye".

Definition:

the rebirth of a soul in a new body.
  • a new version of something from the past.

In order for something to be a reincarnation of something there has to be something prior or from the past that needs to be reborn or imitated.


BUT WHAT?


Before we get to that point let me recap everything quickly.
  • The byakugan is the dojutsu of the Ootsutki CLAN.
  • The RinneSharringan and the lower realmed eyes from that particularly eye gets its origin from the Chakra tree.
  • The byakugan apparently can evolve with a certain type of Ootsutki chakra to become the "Reincarnated Eye", the Tenseigan.


Have you ever realized that when a Ootsutki ate the chakra fruit or even gobbled up the chakra tree, their eyes/byakugan's themselves didn't transform. This was Even the case when Madara consumed the tree, were his Rinnegans stayed intact and got a additional dojutsu, the Rinnesharringan on his forehead; an extra dojutsu.

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This means that the chakra fruit is an extension/add-on to the body then a natural evolution of the user. Of course other physical changes do occur but on just the dojutsu field the eye itself stays intact.
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Why is that? Well the chakra fruit is a separate genetic based entity in itself. The only natural growth of its dojutsu is via progeny that carried the chakra fruits oddities via reproduction. In this case the Uchiha clan and their Sharringan evolutionary chain.


This leads me to my next point. Why does the Ootsutki clan even want chakra fruits?

Apparently there is even a level scale that the clan follows when cultivating the trees in other worlds. With anything beyond 10 being directly reported to the clan.

Why is that?

Let us go back to the Ootsutki's natural dojutsu the byakugan. As I stated before the most notable, next step for the eye was the Tenseigan on which I stated it was a eye trying to go back to a said time/dojutsu. To mimic some original scenario from the past.


Maybe the original clan leader of the Ootsutki clan had their original dojutsu, a truly pure dojutsu that was the original eye for the clan before it diluted downwards with his progeny to become the empty white eye, the byakugan.


Maybe some years upon years have passed since then and a new head wanted to get back to that past or rather original power. Maybe the eye grants the user some high class ability that will dominate the universe or bring it back to its former glory.


Maybe chakra was dispersed throughout the worlds and the original clan head/founder was responsible for that. Maybe he brought peace but the NEW clan leader just wishes to RULE.

Of course all of this is conjecture but the play on words for these eyes lead's one to think.

[Note: Play on words like how the byakugan is white, the Tenseigan is a reincarnation, and the Sharringan family tree's naming scheme is based of the reincarnation life cycle/wheel.]

Therefore they are two pieces to a puzzle, trying to revive an eye via reincarnation and also needing the tools, the reincarnation (Mirror) wheel to do so. (The Chakra fruit)

Which leads me to my next point, Boruto's EYE.

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Boruto's eye is apparently called the Jougan.
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Jougan apparently means Pure EYE. Again Pure to what? Maybe the Byakugan which is White Eye.


We know that Naruto's Tailed Beast chakra apparently didn't pass on to his children, according to Momo.
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So Boruto's eye might be due to Hinata's PURE byakugan genes (like Hanabi), Hamura's chakra, and Naruto's Ashura/other genetic DNA and chakra that isn't chakra fruit based.
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We know Naruto's own chakra is pure and light like, warm and loving. He was able to tame the tailed beast with the same notion.

This is akin to Naruto being a Sun dynamic and also Hagoromo's attempt to have chakra be a gateway to understanding and peace.
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This is the KEY to PURE chakra that the JOUGAN likely needs, a non corrupt or tainted chakra to flow through a pure untainted eye.
What I believe is that Boruto's eye might likely be the original eye of the Ootsuki clan head. While the Tenseigan that we saw in the Last might be an imitation or something that tries to get close but isn't there yet there or stable.


Hamura literally had to pass through his lifetime to eventually get the eyes and Toneri had it temporarly in a unstable state. (fizzed away).
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See it like this. The Tenseigan is a step up from the byakugan but it really isn't the true evolutionary form, like how that TRUNKS DBZ buffed form is a pure imitation of SS2.

Like Ashura and Indra, Hagoromo and Hamura were split when it came to Kaguya's power inheritance.
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While Hagoromo was more of the chakra fruit, Hamura was more like his Mom's evolutionary genetics.

The reason as to why Kaguya didn't also have the Tenseigan like Hamura is because she didn't let her eyes mature enough to actually awakening it, while Hamura had a time span of birth towards near death.


Again we also know that the Ootsutki clan apparently needs to report any chakra tree/fruit that is above 10 to the clan as it is the law.


The reason for this is that likely the top clan heads/branch have no care for lower tier chakra fruit as apparently their dojtusu's reject them, leaving a third add-on dojutsu that is corrupt/mutated.

Also a clan member that is likely a low teir would likely not be able to handle the fruit and descend into insanity as seen with Kaguya.

Think of it like DBSuper and SSG, we have the uber pure form of red and then eventually controlling it somewhat to have blue.

The current heads of the clan likely want to regain the Jougan for themselves but wish to force their way to that power by consuming chakra and forcing their bodies to evolve. This forceful method leads to mutation like the Sharringan family tree, but sometimes it might lead to other side effects like a future child bearing the Tenseigan.

As to how Boruto got the Jougan is unknown but the very fact that it isn't called a Reincarnated Eye but instead a PURE eye means that it might be THE eye itself.


Now then what will be the opposite of that eye? The JAGAN.

Which means EVIL eye.

Therefore by wanting power and forcing one's way towards it the clan leader might instead unlock the JAGAN via a high tier chakra tree.

A eye with chakra that corrupts the mind. (Note that the Sharringan itself is via the mind too and it is a eye that was made by the chakra fruit).


He/She might be evil already but a uber powerful chakra tree from a pure main branch Ootsutki might lead to not insanity but just the evolution of a true EVIL EYE.


Maybe Momo knows the Ootsutki's main goal to get the Jougan and likely assumed due to the reforms of the current Ootsutski that the Jougan was instead the Jagan.
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What will Boruto do when that time comes?
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The fact that Boruto doesn't have a Byakugan is clear evidence that it probably won't get the development you desire. Just because we're seeing more of the Hyuga clan, doesn't mean new additions will come.

For some reason, whenever you guys talk about how great the Byakugan is, you bring up the Tenseigan. Why can't you just live with the Byakugan?
 

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Came back with a Ice-cream cone and looks at the thread

One Star?

Lol does everyone literally needs to make everything about Clan wars lol. I am just giving you a plausible reason as to what the Ootstuki might be after and what a true chakra tree eye fusion would be
 

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Example let us say a non OOtsutki ( who maricoulsy sruves from eating it) eats a level 20+ chakra fruit

he/she has some RinneSharringan ability that dwarfs Kaguya's and also Momo's crappy one

but that is the dojutsu mutation of the chakra fruit and not the Jougan/Jagan or whatever


the Ootsuki founder likely had a Jougan

I am following a trail of linguistics

from White to Pure

from Reincarnated trying to mimic Pure

Pure vs Corrupt/Evil


Sharringan is mirror eye or copy wheel or something and Rinnegan is Saṃsāra Eye so the cycle of life for both


the Tenseigan being the Reincarnation Eye means that it is trying to revive something from the past

So having a byakugan eating a chakra fruit in hope to go through the cycle of life and rebirth the Jougan
 

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You're acting as if 99% of the Otsutsuki dont have the Byakugan, and as if the Hyugas aren't the strongest clan in Konoha.

The Byakugan still isn't a relevant dojutsu. It's just a shirt lying around a messy room.
 

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Ummm this isn't about Sharingan vs Byakugan

both are diluted forms of origin eyes

one from the tree another from the Ootsutki clan

My theory is that the Ootsutki or at least the main branch are after the Jougan or to get the Jougan

the Jougan was the eye of their founder

what they will get instead ironically is the JAGAN

maybe some meaning on what Chakra is and what it is used for will play a role here


like how Hagoromo wanted it for good but people turned it into ninjitsu

similarly the Jougan can only come from a good being
 

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Also stop wanking or derailing this thread for some byakugan/sharingan war

this is a theory thread
 

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We don't even know how pure Hinata is, we're just guessing.

We do Hinata's Byakugan is not very pure with Hamura's chakra she still didn't awaken Tenseigan.
Hanabi Hime's pure Byakugan (confirmed) without Hamura Chakra handout woke Tenseigan need I say more.

I would've taken your theory thread more seriously had you not added fanfiction to it. Anyway I won't mention Pure Byakugan eyes of Hinata's :lmao:unless prompted.
 

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An entire clan of Byakugan aliens as the main villains, Main character likely having said eyes, his sister, mother, aunt, and best friend likewise, but Byakugan isn't getting development.

Dream on :lol
 

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Hinata can single handedly destroy the Uchiha clan, thanks to her Hamura chakra. Oh wait, they're already dead. :lmao:

Now stop baiting people just so you can report them, you troll.

Come now I thought this was a theory thread not a fanfic thread?
 

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This is an excellent thread. Too bad it had to be ruined by trolls who make big deals out of small things like the Byakugan being a main dojutsu, and hinata have a pure byakugan.
 

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Also an example of different level chakra fruit and their Rinnegan's


Legend: Consumption = By eating the Fruit
Inheritance = By gaining the power not by the fruit

Momo's Below 10 (Consumption)
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Sasuke's Hagoromo inherited Rinnegan (Not complete 10 tail fruit) (Inheritance)
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Kaguya Rinne Sharringan. (Consumption)
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Rinnegan (Inheritance).
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Note how Consumption is red.

Even when Madara consumed the tree his Rinne Sharringan was Red and had comas

Sasuke's Rinnegan is likely greater then Momo's but it isn't red since he didn't consume a fruit to get it, he got it via inheritance.
 

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An entire clan of Byakugan aliens as the main villains, Main character likely having said eyes, his sister, mother, aunt, and best friend likewise, but Byakugan isn't getting development.

Dream on :lol

That doesn't necessarily mean that the Byakugan is getting development:

- Boruto's doujustu isn't a Byakugan
- Hyugas got an arc for themselves, but that's it. It didn't add anything to Byakugan's development.
- Otsutsuki have the Byakugan, sure. But has this really added development to the Byakugan? Or is this about to add development to Boruto's new doujutsu?

This is an excellent thread. Too bad it had to be ruined by trolls who make big deals out of small things like the Byakugan being a main dojutsu, and hinata have a pure byakugan.

It isn't trolling. This is called having your own opinion - which, in my case, happens to be backed up with manga facts.

Am I the one who got banned 2 times in a row in less than a week? Guess I'm not the troll here, buddy.
 
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Also the Jougan being revived via PURE means = likely a PURE heart is likely what Hagoromo wanted to do with chakra
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Jagan will be the ninjitsu equivalent of Jougan (Chakra)
 

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Hinata can single handedly destroy the Uchiha clan, thanks to her Hamura chakra. Oh wait, they're already dead. :lmao:

Now stop baiting people just so you can report them, you troll.

Are you ****ing stupid?

She'd die in a heartbeat against that many Sharingan users. I'm convinced Hebi Sasuke would kill her easily, oh wait, Kirin. She's definitely dead. If Itachi admitted to not being able to handle them all, you think Hinata would be able to thanks to a chakra she has never put into action? Lol ok
 
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Jougan is likely the original eye that pre-dates the byakugan

once the founder of the OOtsutki had progeny they likely inherited the White EYE

aka a blank canvas from him instead of the actual Pure EYE the Jougan


hence they went off to try and regain the Jougan by forceful means, aka chakra fruit but failed most of the time by not having a merger but two seperate dojutsu

the higher the chakra fruit level the closer the chance

but doing it for evil means like chakra means that the current head or whoever wants it will get the Jagan (Evil Eye) instead
 

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That doesn't necessarily mean that the Byakugan is getting development

Agree, but it also doesn't mean it isn't, and there's far more evidence in my favor.

- Boruto's doujustu isn't a Byakugan
He was depicted with a Byakugan in both eyes, so it is possible to happen down the line. Even if he doesn't get the eye itself, the Jougan is an advanced/related eye to the Byakugan.

- Hyugas got an arc for themselves, but that's it.
How do you know that's it? Especially when he had both Hanabi and Hiashi expressing interest in Bolt/Himawari's future growth in their eye powers?

It didn't add anything to Byakugan's development.

We learned

>Not every Hyuga has it
>It needs to be awakened by training

- Otsutsuki have the Byakugan, sure. But has this really added development to the Byakugan? Or is this about to add development to Boruto's new doujutsu?

Ootsutsuki so far have given the following to Byakugan:

>Vacuum Attack
>Needle Hair aimed via Byakugan to Chakra points
>Reading fates
>Tenseigan
>Jougan
>Puppet rebirth
 
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Also the Jougan is a byakugan tree based eye
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if it is the original or an evolved version is yet to be seen

I truly believe that a fully developed Jougan (Pure eye) is the true form of the byakugan and not the Tenseigan (The Reincarnated Eye) which was a imitation a unstable thing

like enraged super saiyain to the complete super saiyain
 
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