Hashirama vs juubito

Rikudou Tobi

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If you can't see it then the only conclusion is you're in denial or blind. There are obvious motion lines and floor explosions that literally anyone else can point out.
Or you're subjectively senile and dismiss everything I say as irrelevant while sticking to your biased ideals. I looked at the viz print and clearly he did not jump away.
And if you weren't so blind, you would see the same sage arts: gracious deity gate that hashirama and tobirama were standing on is the same deity gates that was blown up in front Gamachi during the tandem explosive tags.

Hashirama is next to him and you can't prove that he moved away. This dragging thing is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned and you just said below that Tobirama was dragged out, yet he is under Impure World Resurrection.
No he was not. There you go saying valid points are irrelevant again. You lack rationality and validity
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Irrelevant. That clone is , which as shown by his greeting, was obviously sent over by Hashirama.
Irrelevant. He already destroyed that wood clone before hashirama sent six more. The would point is that Hashirama was beside his wood clones protecting the alliance.



Pages don't exactly correlate with time, but the actions in those pages does, and there is no interruption in this action, thus the pages are directly linked to time. I already noted this dragging is irrelevant, because the time difference between the bombs completely stopping and the bombs exceeding that of Hashirama's position is negligible.
Wrong. Especially when dealing with a s/t user. Everything else you said it useless

The wood clones disappearing have nothing to do with their durability and you still haven't explained why the other remaining clones didn't disappear. Even when Madara pierced one it still had the ability to speak.
Wood clones disappearing and the other one being severed by susanoo sword that a wood clone is not durable enough to be cut in half by a yin yang release disk and still hold jyubito in place with a tether.

I already explained the other clone thing which you kept repeating to be irrelevant. Those remaining clones where made after he created four crimson ray with the Hokages. The clones had to be cut in half (like madara did) to be deposed meaning they have no further durability than that. So a clone being cut in half by madara dying and another one cut by jyubito surviving does not make any sense whatsoever.
 

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But of course you'll say it's irrelevant again while forcing your ideals to be correct as usual. So I'm just gonna end it here because you're just going around in circles again dragging out everything that is moot.

Not in the mood. Viz manga already had the final say and you're the only person in this base that argues what the manga says while relying on translation engine and fan translations as a retort.
 

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But of course you'll say it's irrelevant again while forcing your ideals to be correct as usual. So I'm just gonna end it here because you're just going around in circles again dragging out everything that is moot.

Not in the mood. Viz manga already had the final say and you're the only person in this base that argues what the manga says while relying on translation engine and fan translations as a retort.

It's irrelevant because you start to stem points that defer from the main topic. Your argument depends on Hashirama getting away from Obito and joining the alliance, something you have no evidence for but interpreting for yourself that he left because he extended himself as wood, which makes no sense.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the VIZ. No image you posted directly says that's the real Hashirama. You simply twisted the words and created an exaggerated implication from two statements.
 

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It was obviously a clone, stop kidding yourself please. Both Hashirama and Tobirama knew exactly what they were going to do before Juubito even mounted an attack.
 

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It's irrelevant because you start to stem points that defer from the main topic. Your argument depends on Hashirama getting away from Obito and joining the alliance, something you have no evidence for but interpreting for yourself that he left because he extended himself as wood, which makes no sense.
And this is why I didn't bother. You literally dismissed every page I posted as irrelevant and claim I have no proof when the pages are right there in front of your face.
And no you're using a URL of a wood clone and the real body next to two completely different stone village shinobis and labeling them the same despite the fact that one Hashirama is next to a cloud shinobi and the other one is not. So it's pointless arguing with you since all the pages I put up is "no evidence."
And now you're implying that some clone is the real body. All you do is speculate.
Post one proof. Because you haven't since you started.
I have no idea what you're talking about with the VIZ. No image you posted directly says that's the real Hashirama. You simply twisted the words and created an exaggerated implication from two statements.
Twisted what implied words? So you know that the stamens Tobirama made was actually implied now?
You see what I mean by going in circles now?
It was obviously a clone, stop kidding yourself please. Both Hashirama and Tobirama knew exactly what they were going to do before Juubito even mounted an attack.


You can drop that BS because it's clearly not.
 

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And this is why I didn't bother. You literally dismissed every page I posted as irrelevant and claim I have no proof when the pages are right there in front of your face.
And no you're using a URL of a wood clone and the real body next to two completely different stone village shinobis and labeling them the same despite the fact that one Hashirama is next to a cloud shinobi and the other one is not. So it's pointless arguing with you since all the pages I put up is "no evidence."
And now you're implying that some clone is the real body. All you do is speculate.
Post one proof. Because you haven't since you started.

You haven't posted any proof related to the true topic. I already told you what you needed to actually prove in order for you to be right, but you simply can't provide evidence for it because it isn't true. Most images you posted were for some sub-topic that isn't going to get you anywhere close to your final point. The only thing relevant you've posted evidence for is Hashirama escaping from Tobirama's technique, but the fact is that what you posted isn't evidence at all. You show Obito tied up by Hashirama still, which is in no way evidence that he left.

The ninja are exactly the same in each photo. What evidence do you have that they are different? You keep saying it's a clone, but haven't backed it up yet.

Twisted what implied words? So you know that the stamens Tobirama made was actually implied now?
You see what I mean by going in circles now?

As for Tobirama's statement, nothing indicates that the Hashirama he's talking to is real. It was general knowledge that he could have said to any clone. He's talking about the original, yes, but that doesn't mean he's talking to the original. All you have to do in your next post is present a logical layout with evidence that proves you're undoubtedly right if you want to end the argument. Disregard the entirety of this post and present absolute evidence as to why you're right and also answer these questions:

How do you know that the ninjas in my images are different despite them looking exactly the same and that the Hashirama in the first is a clone?

Why does the "real" Hashirama turn completely into wood when hit, which is behavior of a clone, and has never been shown capable before by an original?
 

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Lmao can't imagine why people are wasting their time arguing with this imbecile.

-Wood clones turn to wood when destroyed. Just like when Juubito destroyed Hashirama's clone.
-Hashirama's main body was in Sage Mode. The clone that was destroyed was in Base.
-SM Hashirama says "i should go too at this point", implying the real body hadn't joined the fray yet.

Anyone denying that these 3 points are true is a troll or just mentally challenged. :lol
 

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Retarded moron thinks Hashirama can stay in sm the whole time, yet he didn't when he fought Madara.
Then uses the statement "i should go too at this point" (not even viz translation) as an implication is some how correlated to facts of hashirama's body being a clone?
Let's ignore the 6 wood clones that didn't turn to wood when they were destroyed. :lol You stupid demented kid.
 
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