Hashirama vs juubito

[Dark Rasengan]

Barrier and Nonoboko no Ken are restricted.
Who wins ?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

mindless one already negged him.

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And you better not say it was a clone either because the manga made it clear that it's not.

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No he didn't, that was the real deal. Tobirama referred to all the other hashirama's out their as dopplegangers while talking to the hashirama beside him. And Hashirama was not fighting Madara at the time either because in the bottom panel he sat out.

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Hashirama cannot maintain Sennin mode for a long period of time in edo tensei, he's constantly going in and out of sage mode, even against madara he wasn't in sage mode all the time like here his sagemode was deactivated.

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[Dark Rasengan]

mindless one already negged him.

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And you better not say it was a clone either because the manga made it clear that it's not.

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No he didn't, that was the real deal. Tobirama referred to all the other hashirama's out their as dopplegangers while talking to the hashirama beside him. And Hashirama was not fighting Madara at the time either because in the bottom panel he sat out.

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Hashirama cannot maintain Sennin mode for a long period of time in edo tensei, he's constantly going in and out of sage mode, even against madara he wasn't in sage mode all the time like here his sagemode was deactivated.

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It was a clone dickhdad :lmao
Because when Juubito attacked him and smashed him with the TSO it turned into wood. That's what happy when you hit a mokubunshin, the remaining part turns into wood.
Don't agree ? make a thread about it tough girl.
But in the meantime gtfo with your horseshit :lol

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It was a clone dickhdad :lmao
Because when Juubito attacked him and smashed him with the TSO it turned into wood. That's what happy when you hit a mokubunshin, the remaining part turns into wood.
Don't agree ? make a thread about it tough girl.
But in the meantime gtfo with your horseshit :lol

Haha
Tobirama just said that he's the real body you dickriding fanboy. And are you retarded? When a edo tensei real body suffer damages, the clones go up in smoke like every other clone.

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You're a sorry excuse for a fanboy. I have people telling me that you're a troll that lacks common sense.

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[Warlocks]

juubito LOW DIF

 

[Holy God]

mindless one already negged him.


And you better not say it was a clone either because the manga made it clear that it's not.

First of all, Tobirama did not say that was the real one; he said absorbing the rest of his clones makes no difference. Second of all, we can clearly see here that the clone turns into wood after getting wrecked by Obito and proceeds to get blown up by Tobirama after attaching himself to Obito. Then, we get shown the actual Hashirama talking to the alliance while this explosion occurs.

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[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Juubito negs him

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

First of all, Tobirama did not say that was the real one; he said absorbing the rest of his clones makes no difference. Second of all, we can clearly see here that the clone turns into wood after getting wrecked by Obito and proceeds to get blown up by Tobirama after attaching himself to Obito. Then, we get shown the actual Hashirama talking to the alliance while this explosion occurs.

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No, drop it. Tobirama is not talking to a clone, he called the remaining Hashirama's clones and wood clones are not durable to handle half of their body being cut in half. Hashirama literally made

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in the battlefield[/url] and only six of them were destroyed after juubito broke the barrier. Obviously that Hashirama in your page is a wood clone because that's the very same one that asked the alliance to set up a earth wall to change the trajectory of the jyubi bijuu bomb.

I know you Madara fans magnify Hashirama's feats just to make your favorite character look good but just stop and use your head here.
That's the real body, end of discussion.

 

[Holy God]

No, drop it. Tobirama is not talking to a clone, he called the remaining Hashirama's clones and wood clones are not durable to handle half of their body being cut in half. Hashirama literally made 11 wood clones in the battlefield and only six of them were destroyed after juubito broke the barrier. Obviously that Hashirama in your page is a wood clone because that's the very same one that asked the alliance to set up a earth wall to change the trajectory of the jyubi bijuu bomb.

I know you Madara fans magnify Hashirama's feats just to make your favorite character look good but just stop and use your head here.
That's the real body, end of discussion.

So you're saying the Hashirama that was fighting Madara was a clone, since only mere pages later that same Hashirama from the last page in my previous post exclaimed he should finally join up to fight Obito? To say otherwise would mean you believe Hashirama regenerated from the blast and for some reason went over to the alliance, which is impossible because Tobirama hadn't regenerated yet.

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And no, this has literally nothing to do with Madara nor do I see how I am bolstering Hashirama's skillset by saying his clone got blown up.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So you're saying the Hashirama that was fighting Madara was a clone, since only mere pages later that same Hashirama from the last page in my previous post exclaimed he should finally join up to fight Obito? To say otherwise would mean you believe Hashirama regenerated from the blast and for some reason went over to the alliance, which is impossible because Tobirama hadn't regenerated yet.

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And no, this has literally nothing to do with Madara nor do I see how I am bolstering Hashirama's skillset by saying his clone got blown up.

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already regenerated after Obito finished Hiruzen, and unlike Hashirama Tobirama was using tandem explosive tags giving Hashirama more time to edotensei regenerate.

And again to make sense of it all, the real body reabsorbs clones and wood clones are not durable enough to handle a yin yang release blitz from the jyubi if it wasn't able to handle a simple sword stab from Madara's ribcage susanoo. And yes, Madara did finish off the clone before running to intercept Hashirama from continuing to fight mindless jyubi.

 

[Holy God]

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already regenerated after Obito finished Hiruzen, and unlike Hashirama Tobirama was using tandem explosive tags giving Hashirama more time to edotensei regenerate.

And again to make sense of it all, the real body reabsorbs clones and wood clones are not durable enough to handle a yin yang release blitz from the jyubi if it wasn't able to handle a simple sword stab from Madara's ribcage susanoo. And yes, Madara did finish off the clone before running to intercept Hashirama from continuing to fight mindless jyubi.

Your image is from two chapters later. That only proves that Hashirama couldn't have regenerated that fast, and Hashirama was caught in the explosion too, so it doesn't matter how many tags there were, especially since the duration of the explosion was only two pages. You have no proof that Hashirama had some clone next to him and that Madara killed it. The fact is that only one was with the alliance and that same one made the statement that it was finally time he go join the fight, meaning he was real and hadn't confronted Obito yet. You say the clones get re-absorbed after the real one gets hit and yet you call the one in the alliance that didn't get absorbed a clone.

 

[SumireKakei]

Juubito. Hashi is only human while Juubito has a littlet god in him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Your image is from two chapters later. That only proves that Hashirama couldn't have regenerated that fast, and Hashirama was caught in the explosion too, so it doesn't matter how many tags there were, especially since the duration of the explosion was only two pages. You have no proof that Hashirama had some clone next to him and that Madara killed it. The fact is that only one was with the alliance and that same one made the statement that it was finally time he go join the fight, meaning he was real and hadn't confronted Obito yet. You say the clones get re-absorbed after the real one gets hit and yet you call the one in the alliance that didn't get absorbed a clone.

One chapters have nothing to do with time, otherwise the genjutsu fight in a sasuke vs itachi fight would've been 11 hours instead of 3 seconds in 3-4 pages. You should know that.

Tobirama came to aid right after minato's attacks failed, one chapter was dedicate to a fight between two s/t users so a lot will happen in a short amount of time.
1. Hashirama was not caught in the explosion
2. Killed a clone

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3. Hashirama with the alliance close to madara

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The real body and the clones were next to the alliance keeping them away form the jyubi. And they were not to far away from the jyubi either.
4. I never said clones get reabsorbed when they get hit, pay attention. I said they go up in smoke like any other clone (thread post number 4). Only the real body can reabsorb clones not the clones itself.

It was the real body, end of discussion even Sasuke told Naruto that the Hokages are throwing their edo bodies in the fight because they know they can regenerate again.

 

[Holy God]

Tobirama came to aid right after minato's attacks failed, one chapter was dedicate to a fight between two s/t users so a lot will happen in a short amount of time.
1. Hashirama was not caught in the explosion

Yes he was. He was the one restricting Obito from moving. You would need proof of Hashirama dodging at the last second.

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2. Killed a clone

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Irrelevant, as that is before Madara went to fight Hashirama and before Hashirama's clone was destroyed.

3. Hashirama with the alliance close to madara

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The real body and the clones were next to the alliance keeping them away form the jyubi. And they were not to far away from the jyubi either.

His position relative to Madara is irrelevant?

4. I never said clones get reabsorbed when they get hit, pay attention. I said they go up in smoke like any other clone (thread post number 4). Only the real body can reabsorb clones not the clones itself.

No, these aren't Shadow Clones. Wood Clones turn into wood, and that's exactly what happened to Hashirama's clone after Obito attacked him.

It was the real body, end of discussion even Sasuke told Naruto that the Hokages are throwing their edo bodies in the fight because they know they can regenerate again.

Irrelevant as well, as that is not a statement directed towards Hashirama. The fact is that Hashirama was blown up and an entire body is not going to regenerate that fast and leave the fight so that he, pages later, can forget what's happening and decide to say he should finally join in.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yes he was. He was the one restricting Obito from moving. You would need proof of Hashirama dodging at the last second.

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No he was not. There's a reason why he elongated his tether.

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Irrelevant, as that is before Madara went to fight Hashirama and before Hashirama's clone was destroyed.

There was a clone in front of him with the alliance holding off the fussion beings.

His position relative to Madara is irrelevant?

The whole scene was compact, so there is no such thing as him having "no time to regenerate."

No, these aren't Shadow Clones. Wood Clones turn into wood, and that's exactly what happened to Hashirama's clone after Obito attacked him.

Wrong. That was the real body

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Irrelevant as well, as that is not a statement directed towards Hashirama. The fact is that Hashirama was blown up and an entire body is not going to regenerate that fast and leave the fight so that he, pages later, can forget what's happening and decide to say he should finally join in.

His whole entire body was not blown up. He was already missing half when he created the tether.

 

[Holy God]

No he was not. There's a reason why he elongated his tether.

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If you don't have evidence that he ran away, then you can't prove your point.

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, not Hashirama or Tobirama.

There was a clone in front of him with the alliance holding off the fussion beings.

Because Hashirama sent him over to fight Madara. What does this have to do with anything but prove that wood clones turn into wood when hit, like when Obito hit Hashirama?

The whole scene was compact, so there is no such thing as him having "no time to regenerate."

It took 3 chapters for Tobirama to make an appearance again. And after looking through it now, no there is no time dedicated for something else. Those two chapters inbetween when Tobirama was blown up and what you presented me are Obito fighting the others. It's blatantly obvious that Hashirama, who would have been completely destroyed for the same amount of time as Tobirama, would have not been able to fully regenerate in less than ~6 pages.

Wrong. That was the real body

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That doesn't prove anything because you claim there was a clone with the alliance, yet if so then it also would have disappeared.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

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If you don't have evidence that he ran away, then you can't prove your point.

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, not Hashirama or Tobirama.

1. Did not see Gamabunta jump either especially when the explosion is right in front of him heading the other direction. So you have no evidence yet again.
2. No evidence of tandem explosive tags dragging hashirama's body meters along the other direction.

Because Hashirama sent him over to fight Madara. What does this have to do with anything but prove that wood clones turn into wood when hit, like when Obito hit Hashirama?

No he didn't. He created 6 more to go after Madara. Why the hell will Hashirama leave the fussions that is attacking the alliance to go after Madara? There were 11 wood clones in the battlefield.

It took 3 chapters for Tobirama to make an appearance again. And after looking through it now, no there is no time dedicated for something else. Those two chapters inbetween when Tobirama was blown up and what you presented me are Obito fighting the others. It's blatantly obvious that Hashirama, who would have been completely destroyed for the same amount of time as Tobirama, would have not been able to fully regenerate in less than ~6 pages.

It did not take three chapters for Tobirama to be restored and the bold part is a illogical speculation since it did not take Hiruzen 6 pages to regenerate. Again, Tandem explosive tag was still going while Hashirama was regenerating. explosive chains don't drag out edotensei bodies, they're not durable for that.

That doesn't prove anything because you claim there was a clone with the alliance, yet if so then it also would have disappeared.

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Third time I repeated this. Look at the page and see how many clones where destroyed.

 

[Holy God]

1. Did not see Gamabunta jump either especially when the explosion is right in front of him heading the other direction. So you have no evidence yet again.
2. No evidence of tandem explosive tags dragging hashirama's body meters along the other direction.

1. Yes, we see the motion lines of him coming down from a jump and the explosion underneath him.

2. Don't know what you're talking about. Hashirama is right next to Obito and the tags explode while he is still being grabbed. Hashirama doesn't have to be pulled anywhere due to the explosion size.

No he didn't. He created 6 more to go after Madara. Why the hell will Hashirama leave the fussions that is attacking the alliance to go after Madara? There were 11 wood clones in the battlefield.

Yes, he did.

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It did not take three chapters for Tobirama to be restored and the bold part is a illogical speculation since it did not take Hiruzen 6 pages to regenerate. Again, Tandem explosive tag was still going while Hashirama was regenerating. explosive chains don't drag out edotensei bodies, they're not durable for that.

Then why does he not appear for three chapters? It also took Hiruzen a bit to regenerate and he wasn't even completely destroyed. Obviously the tags aren't going to drag him out, and you're right that once the radius of the explosions passed him, he'd be able to regenerate, but since the explosion only lasted two pages, the difference between Tobirama and Hashirama being able to start regenerating would be negligible.

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Third time I repeated this. Look at the page and see how many clones where destroyed.

What do the number of clones have to do with anything? You said the clones got destroyed and yet you claim Madara killed a clone before getting to Hashirama, which wouldn't be possible if they all got destroyed.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

1. Yes, we see the motion lines of him coming down from a jump and the explosion underneath him.

No we don't. If you can't show me that he jumped, then you're wasting time.

2. Don't know what you're talking about. Hashirama is right next to Obito and the tags explode while he is still being grabbed. Hashirama doesn't have to be pulled anywhere due to the explosion size.

Except in the page Hashirama was not next to Obito hence the tether he wrapped around him. You keep avoiding the fact that an edotensei body does not have the durability to be dragged around by a chain of explosions.

Yes, he did.

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No he didn't. That was way before Obito's arrival. He created 6 more to go after Madara.

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Then why does he not appear for three chapters? It also took Hiruzen a bit to regenerate and he wasn't even completely destroyed. Obviously the tags aren't going to drag him out, and you're right that once the radius of the explosions passed him, he'd be able to regenerate, but since the explosion only lasted two pages, the difference between Tobirama and Hashirama being able to start regenerating would be negligible

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Like I said pages=/=time hence the sasuke vs itachi fight.
Tobirama appeared after 1-2 chapters after the tsb was about to detonate. And the tags do drag out Tobirama's body because the tags come out from edo tobirama's body in the first place creating a continuous explosions. So in order to create a chain his edo body needs to create more tags.

What do the number of clones have to do with anything? You said the clones got destroyed and yet you claim Madara killed a clone before getting to Hashirama, which wouldn't be possible if they all got destroyed.

It means Hashirama had 4-5 wood clones left out there in the battlefield after the 6 he created went up in smoke. So while the real body confronted Obito, the other 4-5 wood clones were protecting the alliance from the fussion beings that were right next to where the jyubi use to be prior to being absorbed.

The 6 wood clones disappearing means that they are not durable to be split in half and create a tether (therefore real body)
The 4-5 remaining clones is what Tobirama was talking about and the location was around the same area because the wood clones were stopping the fission.

 

[Holy God]

No we don't. If you can't show me that he jumped, then you're wasting time.

If you can't see it then the only conclusion is you're in denial or blind. There are obvious motion lines and floor explosions that literally anyone else can point out.

Except in the page Hashirama was not next to Obito hence the tether he wrapped around him. You keep avoiding the fact that an edotensei body does not have the durability to be dragged around by a chain of explosions.

Hashirama is next to him and you can't prove that he moved away. This dragging thing is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned and you just said below that Tobirama was dragged out, yet he is under Impure World Resurrection.

No he didn't. That was way before Obito's arrival. He created 6 more to go after Madara.

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, which as shown by his greeting, was obviously sent over by Hashirama.

Like I said pages=/=time hence the sasuke vs itachi fight.
Tobirama appeared after 1-2 chapters after the tsb was about to detonate. And the tags do drag out Tobirama's body because the tags come out from edo tobirama's body in the first place creating a continuous explosions. So in order to create a chain his edo body needs to create more tags.

Pages don't exactly correlate with time, but the actions in those pages does, and there is no interruption in this action, thus the pages are directly linked to time. I already noted this dragging is irrelevant, because the time difference between the bombs completely stopping and the bombs exceeding that of Hashirama's position is negligible.

It means Hashirama had 4-5 wood clones left out there in the battlefield after the 6 he created went up in smoke. So while the real body confronted Obito, the other 4-5 wood clones were protecting the alliance from the fussion beings that were right next to where the jyubi use to be prior to being absorbed.

The 6 wood clones disappearing means that they are not durable to be split in half and create a tether (therefore real body)
The 4-5 remaining clones is what Tobirama was talking about and the location was around the same area because the wood clones were stopping the fission.

The wood clones disappearing have nothing to do with their durability and you still haven't explained why the other remaining clones didn't disappear. Even when Madara pierced one it still had the ability to speak.