Were other ninja made look stupid to make Shikamaru seem very intelligent and smart?

[Nattana]

So basically for the whole series Shikamaru was considered one of the most intelligent and smart characters in the series, everytime he was a part of some team, he was the one who prepared tactics and stuff.

But honestly, is it just me who thinks that it was all bullshit? Nothing he came up with was really special and something that others could not think of, but Kishi decided to make everyone but Shikamaru look like idiots who can't think strategically.

Not to mention that stupid finger touching and the whole 'thinking process'. Jesus, cringy as fcuk.

And now we're getting the same shti with his son. Tragic.

 

[Opiuchus05]

I don't know
Can u give an example

 

[Ves]

Clearly not. Shikamaru went up against other strategist like Temari, and Tayuya who had him on edge all throughout the battle (Temari less so). I mean seriously, how can you even say such nonsensical bullshit? Shikamaru hardly had any cameo's, and he's what? Only gone against four people in the manga. Kin, Temari, Tayuya, and Hidan (I may be forgetting one, or two people). Out of all those encounters he'd only outplayed two: Kin & Hidan. While Temari, and Tayuya gave him challenge (the latter moreso than the former). The guy is able to think 200+ steps ahead for crying out loud, and you're underplaying him compared to others? What you don't understand, is its not the action, but the method in which way you execute said action. Method is everything. That is why Shikamaru will always be one of the smartest character to date.

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[Kakooli]

Shika's best intelligence feat iz when he understood Tayuya's flute patterns. Apart from that he failed to recognize teh importance of Hidan drawing a chalk circle of blood until Asuma got killed, misunderstood Pain's secret (he thought it was genjutsu until Sakura corrected him) and his solution to tanking a juubi lazor was to teach teh alliance a d rank doton tech (which got only bought teh alliance a few seconds, they would have died unless Minato showed up to save them). There's a reason why Ino copied Sakura, not Shika, in teh chunin exam.

 

[animals74]

just ur stereotypical cookie cutter im a genius kid who cant actually fight but stays relevant to the plot because of im so smart and has the brains syndrome

 

[Nattana]

Clearly not. Shikamaru went up against other strategist like Temari, and Tayuya who had him on edge all throughout the battle (Temari less so). I mean seriously, how can you even say such nonsensical bullshit? Shikamaru hardly had any cameo's, and he's what? Only gone against four people in the manga. Kin, Temari, Tayuya, and Hidan (I may be forgetting one, or two people). Out of all those encounters he'd only outplayed two: Kin & Hidan. While Temari, and Tayuya gave him challenge (the latter moreso than the former). The guy is able to think 200+ steps ahead for crying out loud, and you're underplaying him compared to others? What you don't understand, is its not the action, but the method in which way you execute said action. Method is everything. That is why Shikamaru will always be one of the smartest character to date.

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No, I'm not downplaying him. It's just like Kishi desperately tried to make up for lack of development with all the 'smart' stuff. Yes, he was very intelligent, but honestly, every time he has panels, it has to be shown that he's above everyone in that area, but every half-decent ninja should be able to come up with good solutions as well.

 

[Nattana]

just ur stereotypical cookie cutter im a genius kid who cant actually fight but stays relevant to the plot because of im so smart and has the brains syndrome

Sadly I can only rep you once.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

No, I'm not downplaying him. It's just like Kishi desperately tried to make up for lack of development with all the 'smart' stuff. Yes, he was very intelligent, but honestly, every time he has panels, it has to be shown that he's above everyone in that area, but every half-decent ninja should be able to come up with good solutions as well.

Wait, how's he lacking development? For a side character it's not bad, he went from being s slacker and not caring to wanting to be narutos aid to use what he has for the better of the village. We got to see him progress, especially after asumas death. Personally I don't agree with others being made to look dumb for his sake. But that's my opinion. He was on the other hand a lot better developed than a lot of the other k11

 

[Ves]

Shika's best intelligence feat iz when he understood Tayuya's flute patterns. Apart from that he failed to recognize teh importance of Hidan drawing a chalk circle of blood until Asuma got killed, misunderstood Pain's secret (he thought it was genjutsu until Sakura corrected him) and his solution to tanking a juubi lazor was to teach teh alliance a d rank doton tech (which got only bought teh alliance a few seconds, they would have died unless Minato showed up to save them). There's a reason why Ino copied Sakura, not Shika, in teh chunin exam.

There wasn't any possible way for Shikamaru to know what Hidan's ritual would've done. Logically you can't presume something accurately without knowing the basics, and what basics were Shikamaru given against the unknown Akatsuki? Nothing. So drop the bullshit. @bold2: Uh... I think you need to reread that encounter. Shikamaru wanted to learn that D-rank Doton jutsu to stop the Jubi's BD momentum, to which Bee endured. Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images

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[Kakooli]

There wasn't any possible way for Shikamaru to know what Hidan's ritual would've done. Logically you can't presume something accurately without knowing the basics, and what basics were Shikamaru given against the unknown Akatsuki? Nothing. So drop the bullshit. @bold2: Uh... I think you need to reread that encounter. Shikamaru wanted to learn that D-rank Doton jutsu to stop the Jubi's BD momentum, to which Bee endured. Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images

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his 200 iq should have realized that a chalk circle of blood was suspicious........

his plan was a failure......"it's more powerful than we thought...at this rate" means that shika's calculations were wrong. He had to bailed by Minato.

Sakura>>>>>>>>>>Shikamaru.

 

[Ves]

just ur stereotypical cookie cutter im a genius kid who cant actually fight but stays relevant to the plot because of im so smart and has the brains syndrome

I don't think we're talking about the same person here. Shikamaru? Cookie cutter? I don't think so. The guy is a lazy genius, the type of character who hates confrontation, has an envy to clouds, and only when his friends are in jeopardy does he step up to the plate, and when he steps up he puts 110% effort into his battle plan. There is nothing generic about Shikamaru, he's one of the more fleshed out side characters. He's stayed relevant because he's just that, relevant, especially in the War Arc, seeing as I don't know... War requires strategics? And what did Asuma say about Shikamaru in the Chunin Exams? Spoiler You must be registered for see images "People say that before they became playthings, those same game pieces... Were used by military advisors to plan their strategies. So I guess Shikamaru would make a first-rate military advisor!" He took over Gaara's division while the Kages went to fight Madara. And then what happened after? He became Naruto's advisory... Kishimoto always had a plan since part one for Shikamaru. He was never, ever irrelevant.

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[FemmeFatale]

I believe Sakura's character was restricted to make Shikamaru more intelligent, granted they have most of the same feats, but yeah. He just have hype.

 

[HENI]

the only thing that makes Shikamaru smart is he thinks alot.

 

[Melanin]

Shika's best intelligence feat iz when he understood Tayuya's flute patterns. Apart from that he failed to recognize teh importance of Hidan drawing a chalk circle of blood until Asuma got killed, misunderstood Pain's secret (he thought it was genjutsu until Sakura corrected him) and his solution to tanking a juubi lazor was to teach teh alliance a d rank doton tech (which got only bought teh alliance a few seconds, they would have died unless Minato showed up to save them). There's a reason why Ino copied Sakura, not Shika, in teh chunin exam.

Sakura is smart enough to counter his logic but he's smarter.

 

[Ves]

Sakura is smart enough to counter his logic but he's smarter.

Shikamaru's intelligence doesn't pertain to test, and event/scenario logic (though I guess it does). It's purely based around strategy. Sakura is definitely on par with Shikamaru regarding topics outside of strategy, and forethought.

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[Melanin]

Shikamaru's intelligence doesn't pertain to test, and event/scenario logic (thought I guess it does). It's purely based around strategy. Sakura is definitely on par with Shikamaru regarding topics outside of strategy, and forethought.

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That's what I meant, I just didn't articulate it well. He's a better strategist and tactician, anything outside of that I think Sakura is competition

 

[chopstickchakra]

So basically for the whole series Shikamaru was considered one of the most intelligent and smart characters in the series, everytime he was a part of some team, he was the one who prepared tactics and stuff.

But honestly, is it just me who thinks that it was all bullshit? Nothing he came up with was really special and something that others could not think of, but Kishi decided to make everyone but Shikamaru look like idiots who can't think strategically.

Not to mention that stupid finger touching and the whole 'thinking process'. Jesus, cringy as fcuk.

And now we're getting the same shti with his son. Tragic.

Not really, you're issue is predominately with the fact that Kishi couldn't think of genius level strategies to give to his genius character. It's like what happens with the Riddler, he's supposed to be a super genius but then you have average or slightly above average people writing it and they can't meet super genius standards.

 

[123fire]

Shikamaru is one of the best characters . Stay mad

 

[Sakazuki]

So basically for the whole series Shikamaru was considered one of the most intelligent and smart characters in the series, everytime he was a part of some team, he was the one who prepared tactics and stuff.

But honestly, is it just me who thinks that it was all bullshit? Nothing he came up with was really special and something that others could not think of, but Kishi decided to make everyone but Shikamaru look like idiots who can't think strategically.

Not to mention that stupid finger touching and the whole 'thinking process'. Jesus, cringy as fcuk.

And now we're getting the same shti with his son. Tragic.

It doesn't matter if they are or not, regardless, Shikamaru is still very smart