Sasuke was always stronger > Naruto

[TemplarKnight]

so A fake sage mode or 8.5 bijuus isnt overkill.

That was one fight and the curse-mark was hardly that strong, Naruto being unable to handle the curse-mark is his problem.

 

[shadowcb]

The Sharingan is his own power, you know..as in his birthright? Even when Sasuke had external powers, they were never an overkill like Naruto's. Naruto's Kyuubi is like bringing a gun to a fist fight, the outcome is already set.

It's not like bring a gun to a fist fight because Naruto and Sasuke can both create a fist. Naruto can't create those eyes.

Both of those powers comes from the ten tail. If your ancestor is given a powerful sword from a powerful being and that sword is handed down to you through your family that doesn't change the fact it came from a powerful being.

 

[TemplarKnight]

It's not like bring a gun to a fist fight because Naruto and Sasuke can both create a fist. Naruto can't create those eyes.

Both of those powers comes from the ten tail. If your ancestor is given a powerful sword from a powerful being and that sword is handed down to you through your family that doesn't change the fact it came from a powerful being.

Now you're just dancing around my point. canary mfer

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That was one fight and the curse-mark was hardly that strong, Naruto being unable to handle the curse-mark is his problem.

the curse mark is essentially an imperfect sage mode. To say that doesn't boost him is ludicrous

 

[Nick01]

I came to this conclusion because unlike Naruto, Sasuke gained real battle experience due to actually having to fight battles where he seriously got his ass kicked, while Naruto could just burst out millions of clones or Kyuubi's chakra and deal with the problem. Realistically speaking based on what we've seen in the manga, Sasuke's battle experience trumps Naruto's and should have led to his well deserved victory.

You do realize that everything a clone experiences goes back to the original right?? Which means Naruto has more experience than him. Naruto earned every bit of his power(Kyuubi's chakra) bar RSM. Naruto's victory is well deserved and if it wasn't for plot, Naruto would've dragged his ass back to the leaf in Vote 1.

Yes sasuke is an all around better ninja and naruto isnt even considered a ninja to me. But naruto has the chakra reserves to equal sasuke.

I disagree.

Naruto has always been just a nuke to me, a power ranger if you will. No redeeming skills or anything, just insanely loud and bright techniques that everyone can see. Nothing tactical

Well you must be blind to what he really is. Dude understood what a Shinobi was, while Sasuke had to ask the Hokages for a history lesson just realize it himself.

Yes Naruto always needs external help or assistance he's been designed that way.

Get your fanfics outta here.

That's BS because eye power automatically gives the user new jutsu in battle and allows the user to use the jutsu on a skilled level without any experience. Sharingan automatically gives the user intel.

Naruto had to learn his power and learn how to use them. When his powers had some type of limitation Naruto had to figure out how to over come his limitation using his current ability and powers.

IE: When naruto was given a time limit with sage mode and couldn't fuse with Pa frog he found a way to still use sage mode in battle using his ability and skill.

Exactly.

You should re-read, Naruto vs pain, team 7 vs Zabuza, Naruto vs 3rd raikage, Naruto vs Neji.

OT: BM and above were stronger than their Sasuke equivalent.


Also, the logic in your op is flawed, so Naruto had a breeze all through, or Sasuke didn't use his sharingan in every battle, just like Naruto used his shadow clones.

Pretty much.

I never understood how Naruto was even remotely on Sasuke's level.

Naruto's I.Q isn't half as Sasuke's.

I.Q isn't everything and if you've read this manga you'd know why. If anything it makes perfect sense how Naruto is a tier above Sasuke's level.

two letters, M and C and when you combine these two powers you awaken this new ability called plot armor, the two halves of Kishimoto's power that must be combined.

A nice example of Sasuke.

once naruto hit bijuu mode he was consistently stronger than sasuke.
BM naruto >Pre legged sasuke
BSM naruto> legged sasuke
RSM naruto >rinne sasuke.

Agreed.

The Sharingan is his own power, you know..as in his birthright? Even when Sasuke had external powers, they were never an overkill like Naruto's. Naruto's Kyuubi is like bringing a gun to a fist fight, the outcome is already set.

If your salty about Kurama being a part of Naruto's life, then by all means remove him, but by doing so your changing the story and could potentially unlock new or more jutsu's that Naruto can learn.

Either way all borrowed powers aside, it'd still be Naruto>>Sasuke.
Sasuke's peak would be MS and what comes after that? Blindness.
Meanwhile Naruto would keep getting stronger.

 

[Misо]

I always hated Narutos retarded multi shadow clones. Its the MOST useless jutsu in the entire anime, and its being used by the main character...

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

once naruto hit bijuu mode he was consistently stronger than sasuke.
BM naruto >Pre legged sasuke
BSM naruto> legged sasuke
RSM naruto >rinne sasuke.

Intellegence/tactics never played a part in it even if that was true. :lol

 

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

You do realize that everything a clone experiences goes back to the original right?? Which means Naruto has more experience than him. Naruto earned every bit of his power(Kyuubi's chakra) bar RSM. Naruto's victory is well deserved and if it wasn't for plot, Naruto would've dragged his ass back to the leaf in Vote 1.


I disagree.


Well you must be blind to what he really is. Dude understood what a Shinobi was, while Sasuke had to ask the Hokages for a history lesson just realize it himself.


Get your fanfics outta here.


Exactly.



Pretty much.

I.Q isn't everything and if you've read this manga you'd know why. If anything it makes perfect sense how Naruto is a tier above Sasuke's level.


A nice example of Sasuke.


Agreed.



If your salty about Kurama being a part of Naruto's life, then by all means remove him, but by doing so your changing the story and could potentially unlock new or more jutsu's that Naruto can learn.

Either way all borrowed powers aside, it'd still be Naruto>>Sasuke.
Sasuke's peak would be MS and what comes after that? Blindness.
Meanwhile Naruto would keep getting stronger.

I.Q is not everything?

Take this L.

1. Sasuke vs Deidara

2 Sasuke vs Itachi

3. Sasuke vs Danzou (wasn't as raw as the above but intelligence played a part in it)

 

[SenseiSama]

True and false at the same time

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

How is an eye merely preventing darkness a power-up?

I never understood this logic. Itachi's eyes did nothing for Sasuke than just secure his eyes' light and prevent a fallback to blindness. That isn't a power-up at all if he has exactly the same abilities he had previously.

Just admit that with the MS blindness gone MS becomes even more perilous, as it restricts overuse and thus limits the user.

 

[Nick01]

I always hated Narutos retarded multi shadow clones. Its the MOST useless jutsu in the entire anime, and its being used by the main character...

You can't be serious. It's an OP tech if used the right way, like Naruto.'
Hell Naruto's clone's are very durable too. Capable of taking fatal hits and not dispersing immediately like regular clones. Even his RSM clones were going toe to toe with Madara's Limbo clones.

I.Q is not everything?

Take this L.

1. Sasuke vs Deidara

2 Sasuke vs Itachi

3. Sasuke vs Danzou (wasn't as raw as the above but intelligence played a part in it)

Here take the L back, it belongs to you after all.

Never said I.Q was useless or completely unimportant but it's not everything, otherwise Shikamaru would solo all of those you listed.

Nice try.

 

[Misо]

You can't be serious. It's an OP tech if used the right way, like Naruto.'
Hell Naruto's clone's are very durable too. Capable of taking fatal hits and not dispersing immediately like regular clones. Even his RSM clones were going toe to toe with Madara's Limbo clones

Bro, all they've done was make the enemy look good....

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[Offpanel]

Eh, they went back and forth, although I would say Sasuke was stronger more often then not. However, when Naruto got BM, he surpassed Sasuke and never looked back.

 

[To Whatever]

That must be why Sasuke got chipped.

Let someone weaker than you whoop your ass, breh..

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bro, all they've done was make the enemy look good....

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true. THeyre like cannon fodder for the enemy to style on them when the real naruto gets here its all of a sudden an even match.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

You can't be serious. It's an OP tech if used the right way, like Naruto.'
Hell Naruto's clone's are very durable too. Capable of taking fatal hits and not dispersing immediately like regular clones. Even his RSM clones were going toe to toe with Madara's Limbo clones.




Here take the L back, it belongs to you after all.

Never said I.Q was useless or completely unimportant but it's not everything, otherwise Shikamaru would solo all of those you listed.

Nice try.

Nah. It's all yours.

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Sasuke has the I.Q and firepower to beat the shit out of Naruto.

They had to nerf Sasuke so Naruto could catch up.

We all know the real Sasuke is Hebi Sasuke and that Sasuke shits on Naruto.

 

[Nick01]

Nah. It's all yours.

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Sasuke has the I.Q and firepower to beat the shit out of Naruto.

They had to nerf Sasuke so Naruto could catch up.

We all know the real Sasuke is Hebi Sasuke and that Sasuke shits on Naruto.

You keep telling yourself that buddy.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

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Sasuke has the I.Q and firepower to beat the shit out of Naruto.

They had to nerf Sasuke so Naruto could catch up.

We all know the real Sasuke is Hebi Sasuke and that Sasuke shits on Naruto.

Naruto is smart in battle aside from using taijutsu. Albeit, a lot is due to Kurama.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Naruto is smart in battle aside from using taijutsu. Albeit, a lot is due to Kurama.

He still falls terribly low in comparison to Sasuke at his peak.

Sasuke was always really smart, and Hebi Sasuke is the last of the real Sasuke.

Afterwards it's downhill, and against Danzou you can see Kishi was planning ahead for Naruto, and when he got EMS they nerfed him even harder.

They made him power addicted and nothing more than just someone using EMS to its pinnacle.

Hebi Sasuke would have done a lot better against Madara. That Sasuke didn't even have back up or set up anything. He just went took up his sword and lunged at the opponent and he was suppose to be a serene fighter again.

This was alll for Naruto, so I'm not complaining. :lol