Hinata and Sakura rivalry

[123fire]

Sakura is far superior to Hinata so there's no rivarly

 

[HyuugaHeir]

The bold is something that everyone uses and i'm not sure why. Yes she's stronger than her but does it matter when Hinata's style doesn't entail contending with her opponent's strength? In reality the whole style is using your opponents strength against them to gain an advantage.

I even used to think perhaps the fact that i like Hinata (i don't dislike Sakura) + i've had some martial training is influencing my decision but then i see

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. Neji is far stronger than Hinata but we don't see her struggling to parry his arm in a direction of her choice in the middle panel which further strengthens my case that the style is exactly like real life defensive martial moves.

But yeah majority even think Neji loses against Sakura so it's always a pain to even think of debating in Hinata's favor.

That physically stronger was a standalone Sakura trait to which xmiso disagreed about.
I retorted that Sakura is infact physically stronger compared to Hinata but that isn't the entirety of the reason she beats Hinata. It is because she is physically stronger, and durable that she can outlast Hinata in a battle.

I also like, heck love Hinata. I have my own fiction under works and my female heroine is based on Hinata's Jyuuken.
If you review the series of post I had earlier, you can see my intention.

Yes @bold. I more likely see Jyuuken as a defensive arsenal. So, my automatic response to SakuravsHinata is Hinata assuming defense until she pulls the rag under Sakura.

Not Nejiiii

 

[Made in Heaven]

The bold is something that everyone uses and i'm not sure why. Yes she's stronger than her but does it matter when Hinata's style doesn't entail contending with her opponent's strength? In reality the whole style is using your opponents strength against them to gain an advantage.

I even used to think perhaps the fact that i like Hinata (i don't dislike Sakura) + i've had some martial training is influencing my decision but then i see

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. Neji is far stronger than Hinata but we don't see her struggling to parry his arm in a direction of her choice in the middle panel which further strengthens my case that the style is exactly like real life defensive martial moves.

But yeah majority even think Neji loses against Sakura so it's always a pain to even think of debating in Hinata's favor.

This is exactly what I think too. Sakura's punches can be parried and that's made all the more easier with Byakugan's foreseeing powers and Sakura's far more linear attacks.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

This is exactly what I think too. Sakura's punches can be parried and that's made all the more easier with Byakugan's foreseeing powers and Sakura's far more linear attacks.

Well the only people who need to comprehend this are Sakura stans. Comprehend is a bigger word than understand right? And far more mean eh?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Well the only people who need to comprehend this are Sakura stans. Comprehend is a bigger word than understand right? And far more mean eh?

Yes, ultimately, all the Shannaros and ground punches dont matter because this fight would ultimately come down to a taijutsu fight, and Hinata murks Sakura in that category.

 

[Lyke]

What can Sakura even do to Hinata tbh? She is physically stronger (without Hinata powering up) but

Byakugan precog means hinata wont be hit easily, and even if she is about to be hit, close combat is hyugas speciality, so Hinata just blocks Sakuras chakra points. What can Byakugou do if your chakra points are blocked, right?

 

[salamander uchiha]

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Do you lack comprehension she gave it to noodles.

 

[Jinrou]

This is exactly what I think too. Sakura's punches can be parried and that's made all the more easier with Byakugan's foreseeing powers and Sakura's far more linear attacks.

Not to mention if the points in Sakura's hands gets sealed off, that's the end. Saying Byakugou reopens chakra points doesn't make sense considering Neji only blocked the points in Hinata's arms meaning there was still chakra flowing within her but it wasn't able to reopen her points as she kept trying to use gentle fist. Except byakugou isn't normal chakra?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Do you lack comprehension she gave it to noodles.

giving =/= losing.

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[patrickscott]

Was Sasuke's Susunoo once blue?

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Difference is Sasukes susanoo was always purple, Hinatas lion first were blue and turned purple after getting Hamura chakra and you cant deny that

For those of you that cant detect sarcasm Ill let it pass. My point is that Indra's chakra is purple so since he transmigrated into Sasuke his was always purple.

Plus I don't remember Kishi stating that anything outside the scarf (which was his idea is canon either) for all we know that change in color is for the movie purpose to show the maturity of her chakra nature.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Not to mention if the points in Sakura's hands gets sealed off, that's the end. Saying Byakugou reopens chakra points doesn't make sense considering Neji only blocked the points in Hinata's arms meaning there was still chakra flowing within her but it wasn't able to reopen her points as she kept trying to use gentle fist. Except byakugou isn't normal chakra?

I know. Creation rebirth regenerate organs and tissues, not reopen sealed chakra points.
Jyueken damages internal organs. That is where creation Rebirth enters. But how does it really function when your chakra control is disrupted bec of a damaged chakra pathway system.

 

[Made in Heaven]

For those of you that cant detect sarcasm Ill let it pass. My point is that Indra's chakra is purple so since he transmigrated into Sasuke his was always purple.

Plus I don't remember Kishi stating that anything outside the scarf (which was his idea is canon either) for all we know that change in color is for the movie purpose to show the maturity of her chakra nature.

Kishi calls it Chapter 699.5 and they even nearly missed the deadline for the script because of how much Kishi was editting it.

All of the movies colors in everything else followed the anime, so no.

 

[Lyke]

For those of you that cant detect sarcasm Ill let it pass. My point is that Indra's chakra is purple so since he transmigrated into Sasuke his was always purple.

Plus I don't remember Kishi stating that anything outside the scarf (which was his idea is canon either) for all we know that change in color is for the movie purpose to show the maturity of her chakra nature.

It has nothing to do with maturity. The chakra turned purple the moment she unleashed Hamuras chakra, and, from a logical point of view taking the context into account, it is hamuras chakra

 

[Made in Heaven]

Not to mention if the points in Sakura's hands gets sealed off, that's the end. Saying Byakugou reopens chakra points doesn't make sense considering Neji only blocked the points in Hinata's arms meaning there was still chakra flowing within her but it wasn't able to reopen her points as she kept trying to use gentle fist. Except byakugou isn't normal chakra?

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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. I will agree that it likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did that, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.

Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Bijuu Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.

TLDR: Kurama gave him Chakra a separate being with its own will, just like when summoning, when fighting Gaara, and fighting Sasuke.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

For those of you that cant detect sarcasm Ill let it pass. My point is that Indra's chakra is purple so since he transmigrated into Sasuke his was always purple.

Plus I don't remember Kishi stating that anything outside the scarf (which was his idea is canon either) for all we know that change in color is for the movie purpose to show the maturity of her chakra nature.

I tot I answered with sarcasm. Or hamura's chakra. Why deviate it from the more likely and explicitly said.

 

[patrickscott]

Kishi calls it Chapter 699.5 and they even nearly missed the deadline for the script because of how much Kishi was editting it.

All of the movies colors in everything else followed the anime, so no.

Yet somehow in the beginning Naruto knew shadow clone jutsu before the timeline in manga with the sealing scroll incident.

 

[Jinrou]

Spoiler

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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. I will agree that it likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did that, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.

Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Bijuu Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.

TLDR: Kurama gave him Chakra a separate being with its own will, just like when summoning, when fighting Gaara, and fighting Sasuke.

Possible....but if that's the case why couldn't Hinata reopen her chakra points in her fight with Neji? She tried using gentle fist despite not knowing so which means her chakra would have been pooling up at the closed points right?

Also Himawari's showing? This time Kyuubi is no longer behind a seal which means she hit both Naruto and Kurama and Hinata walks in and concludes he's going to be out for a day which wouldn't seem right if she can just pump him with chakra to reawaken him.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Possible....but if that's the case why couldn't Hinata reopen her chakra points in her fight with Neji? She tried using gentle fist despite not knowing so which means her chakra would have been pooling up at the closed points right?

Also Himawari's showing? This time Kyuubi is no longer behind a seal which means she hit both Naruto and Kurama and Hinata walks in and concludes he's going to be out for a day which wouldn't seem right if she can just pump him with chakra to reawaken him.

She was unaware I think. Idk it doesnt really matter to whether Yin Seal can open the points or not.

She probably did hit both, or more forcibly, idk tbh. But it might relate to Naruto and Kurama not being seperated by a direct seal (the cage in Naruto's mind dimension is now open, not closed)

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Possible....but if that's the case why couldn't Hinata reopen her chakra points in her fight with Neji? She tried using gentle fist despite not knowing so which means her chakra would have been pooling up at the closed points right?

Also Himawari's showing? This time Kyuubi is no longer behind a seal which means she hit both Naruto and Kurama and Hinata walks in and concludes he's going to be out for a day which wouldn't seem right if she can just pump him with chakra to reawaken him.

I'm not sure, but I think closed tenketsus take time to reopen. Could Hinata strike her own tenketsus and reopen them? Maybe.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

For those of you that cant detect sarcasm Ill let it pass. My point is that Indra's chakra is purple so since he transmigrated into Sasuke his was always purple.

Plus I don't remember Kishi stating that anything outside the scarf (which was his idea is canon either) for all we know that change in color is for the movie purpose to show the maturity of her chakra nature.

She specifically said that it is Hamura's chakra. Why would she say so if it isn't? Look at Naruto and Sasuke, they only had Ashura and Indra's chakra respectively before receiving it from Hagoromo himself. Plus it doesn't make sense that Hamura would simply appear before her and not help her in any way considering how worried he was about Toneri's plans.
Then there is Naruto's instant chakra replenishment feat, do you honestly believe Hinata could've pulled that off using only her normal chakra? Hamura's chakra is written all over it.