Who has better variants to their signature technique? Naruto or Sasuke?

[Greatness23]

Rasengan = Amaterasu+Chidori

Thought because Sasuke used Amaterasu they lost their arms and damn near died?

 

[Styles]

Are you saying blaze release can reverse the momentum of something traveling faster than the speed of sound to actually hit Naruto?

When was this stated?

If Sasuke throw a enton arrow at FRS the arrow will eat FRS and fly towards Naruto instead.

 

[Dylan Uchiha]

Naruto ftw

 

[To Whatever]

When was this stated?

If Sasuke throw a enton arrow at FRS the arrow will eat FRS and fly towards Naruto instead.

Calc the speed frs took to travel to pain with only TSM.

You're basically saying a Enton arrow going against something going the speed of sound or above is can change its momentum to the point that it spins the other direction. Meaning it would have to slow down and stop at one point.

That sounds stupid. The reason the enton frs worked was the angle.

 

[Styles]

Calc the speed frs took to travel to pain with only TSM.

You're basically saying a Enton arrow going against something going the speed of sound or above is can change its momentum to the point that it spins the other direction. Meaning it would have to slow down and stop at one point.

That sounds stupid. The reason the enton frs worked was the angle.

Enton arrow is faster than FRS tho and fire > wind. It'll redirect the FRS while powering up the arrow. If not that the arrow will eat up FRS and both jutsu cancel.FRS was dodged by speed and jumping. Enton/Susano'o arrow needed Kamui.

 

[King Of Pop]

How is it more diverse when rasengan can incorporate more elements and releases?

Chidori no matter the length and size is just lightning at the end of the day..

sasuke added enton(an element) in chidori as well

 

[To Whatever]

Enton arrow is faster than FRS tho and fire > wind. It'll redirect the FRS while powering up the arrow. If not that the arrow will eat up FRS and both jutsu cancel.FRS was dodged by speed and jumping. Enton/Susano'o arrow needed Kamui.

Stop using strawmans, I don't care about the speed or feats. Especially when the mass and density of frs is greater than a enton arrow.

Explain to me how a enton arrow reverses something to completely change momentum and turn around. Given how rasenshuriken works, that's impossible.

You're saying a frs would literally turn around and fly at him instead of exploding or continue it's pathing.

That's not even including the fact that it can detonated.

 

[To Whatever]

sasuke added enton(an element) in chidori as well

That's one compared to the 11 shown I believe.

For something who versatility is limited to enton lightning, rikodu lightning or lightning. It's limited compared to something that can incorporate fuinjutsu in its attack.

Rasengan greatest benefit is that its base is chakra meaning you can add whatever.

Chidori is lightning at the end of the day and you can't add certain things to it. Earth and wind are out of the question.

 

[King Of Pop]

That's one compared to the 11 shown I believe.

For something who versatility is limited to enton lightning, rikodu lightning or lightning. It's limited compared to something that can incorporate fuinjutsu in its attack.

Rasengan greatest benefit is that its base is chakra meaning you can add whatever.

Chidori is lightning at the end of the day and you can't add certain things to it. Earth and wind are out of the question.

This is a one sided thinking. Versatility is not limited to whether you can add something to the technique or not. it also encompasses how you can make it so the technique is used in a variety of ways for suitable situations in other words shape manipulation and that is something sasuke has done with chidori. His variants can be used in all form of ranges(Long range-senbon, mid range-sharp spear, close range-chidori itself or just as a form of defense-Nagashi). it still being raiton is irrelevant as that doesnt take away from the point. And even at that sasuke was able to add an element to it.

Stop using strawmans, I don't care about the speed or feats. Especially when the mass and density of frs is greater than a enton arrow.

Explain to me how a enton arrow reverses something to completely change momentum and turn around. Given how rasenshuriken works, that's impossible.

You're saying a frs would literally turn around and fly at him instead of exploding or continue it's pathing.

That's not even including the fact that it can detonated.

we have canonically seen what happens when frs comes in contact with enton in which enton engulfed it completely with no form of explosion happening so not sure why you are saying the bold. Frs loses its wind/explosive properties as it strengthens the enton and makes it bigger

 

[Styles]

Stop using strawmans, I don't care about the speed or feats. Especially when the mass and density of frs is greater than a enton arrow.

Explain to me how a enton arrow reverses something to completely change momentum and turn around. Given how rasenshuriken works, that's impossible.

You're saying a frs would literally turn around and fly at him instead of exploding or continue it's pathing.

That's not even including the fact that it can detonated.

It wouldn't matter Rasengan have more mass and density than Chidori and they're still A ranks and equal in power.

Enton would engulf the FRS and it's properties would no longer be a FRS but enton. Yamato already said what would happen if a wind element and fire collide.

 

[To Whatever]

This is a one sided thinking. Versatility is not limited to whether you can add something to the technique or not. it also encompasses how you can make it so the technique is used in a variety of ways for suitable situations in other words shape manipulation and that is something sasuke has done with chidori. His variants can be used in all form of ranges(Long range-senbon, mid range-sharp spear, close range-chidori itself or just as a form of defense-Nagashi). it still being raiton is irrelevant as that doesnt take away from the point. And even at that sasuke was able to add an element to it.


we have canonically seen what happens when frs comes in contact with enton in which enton engulfed it completely with no form of explosion happening so not sure why you are saying the bold. Frs loses its wind/explosive properties as it strengthens the enton and makes it bigger

It isn't one sided thinking.

Rasengan can utilize more elements:

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In what category other than shape manipulation and defense does Chidori have over FRS? FRS and Chidori cant even be compared. Only Rasengan and Chidori. With Rasenshuriken being the finished jutsu.

Rasengan is a close range. Rasenshuriken is a close-mid-long range jutsu that can be thrown, caught, expanded and detonated at will and has a power scaling higher than anything we've seen in the series.

I'm not saying it doesn't engulf. He said the frs would fly back at Naruto. How does a enton arrow cause frs to fly backwards at him. If the FRS is stopped, it explodes or dissipates. For the FRS to turn around would mean it would stop spinning to reverse itself back at Naruto. That's all i'm asking.

It wouldn't matter Rasengan have more mass and density than Chidori and they're still A ranks and equal in power.

Enton would engulf the FRS and it's properties would no longer be a FRS but enton. Yamato already said what would happen if a wind element and fire collide.

Are we talking about enton arrow or chidori? It doesn't matter if it engulfs. I'm not saying it wont.

I'm asking you again to explain how a FRS gets turned around completely.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

As others have stated, Naruto's is superior. As for looks, imo the Rasengan variants are much cooler.

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Badass.

The last one is weird.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Sasuke nardo doesn't have legit variants without beast chakra. Damn know that I think about it Noodles needs handouts and external help wtf he's more useless damnit.

 

[King Of Pop]

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It isn't one sided thinking.

Rasengan can utilize more elements:

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Can be used to seal:

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Can incorporate Bijuu Dama and TSB:

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In what category other than shape manipulation and defense does Chidori have over FRS? FRS and Chidori cant even be compared. Only Rasengan and Chidori. With Rasenshuriken being the finished jutsu.

Rasengan is a close range. Rasenshuriken is a close-mid-long range jutsu that can be thrown, caught, expanded and detonated at will and has a power scaling higher than anything we've seen in the series.

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This has nothing to do with my post which was mainly addressing you saying chidori lacks versatility because it doesn't incorporates elements and all that. i havent give my opinion on the thread itself although i do think rasengan variants are overall better at least when it comes to strength. but what do you mean frs having power higher than anything else? pretty sure it is not stronger than kirin

I'm not saying it doesn't engulf. He said the frs would fly back at Naruto. How does a enton arrow cause frs to fly backwards at him. If the FRS is stopped, it explodes or dissipates. For the FRS to turn around would mean it would stop spinning to reverse itself back at Naruto. That's all i'm asking.

ohh okay but it wont explode.

 

[To Whatever]

This has nothing to do with my post which was mainly addressing you saying chidori lacks versatility because it doesn't incorporates elements and all that. i havent give my opinion on the thread itself although i do think rasengan variants are overall better at least when it comes to strength. but what do you mean frs having power higher than anything else? pretty sure it is not stronger than kirin


ohh okay but it wont explode.

My b. I meant in comparison to Rasengan.

Naruto frs would make Kirin look like a spark. This is Naruto we're talking about. The dude has chakra for eons. If he were to use all his chakra and the sage energy around the area he could probably do as much as the clash at vote 2.

Kirin biggest feat is mountain sized.

FRS nuked things bigger than that.

 

[King Of Pop]

My b. I meant in comparison to Rasengan.

Naruto frs would make Kirin look like a spark. This is Naruto we're talking about. The dude has chakra for eons. If he were to use all his chakra and the sage energy around the area he could probably do as much as the clash at vote 2.

Kirin biggest feat is mountain sized.

FRS nuked things bigger than that.

Yea no, Kirin obliterated what should be v3 soosano by logical scaling. that is superior to anything frs has shown

 

[To Whatever]

Yea no, Kirin obliterated what should be v3 soosano by logical scaling. that is superior to anything frs has shown

Obliterated...

Scaling...

Kirin is raw lightning, it has no chakra other than to guide it. It's biggest feat was busting a hollow mountain and damaging a v3.

FRS has blown up CBs that dwarfed mountains by a large amount and that's without harnessing the nature energy.

Even if kirin has the scaling.

FRS has a greater scaling and feats.

When it was harnessed; 17 year old Naruto managed to stalemate Sasuke's greatest offensive attack, Indra Arrow, enhanced with the power of the 9 dragon balls.(lol)

Naruto has chakra reserves greater than anyone currently alive excluding Kaguya since she's technically alive.

Adult Naruto with 100% and Energy being harnessed the size of Vote would do more than Kirin. The only thing ****ing with that is a bijuu powered Indra arrow.

But we don't have to agree on this it's an opinion.

The thread is about versatility of their signature techniques.

Rasengan being more versatile than chidori.

 

[WalksInShadows]

How is it more diverse when rasengan can incorporate more elements and releases?

Chidori no matter the length and size is just lightning at the end of the day..

"Chidori no matter the length and size is just lighting at the end of the day".

But a Rasengan/RS with different release is still a Rasengan/RS at the end of the day

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Mini rasenshuriken, magnet release rasengan = insta sealed. Imagine the variation if he applied bijuu chakras to mini rasenshuriken/rasengan.

all that really shows though is just how bad at ninjutsu Naruto really is when you realize Sasuke can make Chidori serve different functions w/o any bijuu power or 6P Senjutsu.

 

[To Whatever]

"Chidori no matter the length and size is just lighting at the end of the day".

But a Rasengan/RS with different release is still a Rasengan/RS at the end of the day

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all that really shows though is just how bad at ninjutsu Naruto really is when you realize Sasuke can make Chidori serve different functions w/o any bijuu power or 6P Senjutsu.

Yeah, thank for providing my point. Rasengan/RS is just a ball of ****ing chakra where as chidori is lightning.

At the end of the day it's a ball of chakra without constraint of elemental counters. Capable of being used depending on the situation.

Can you give chidori to someone?
Can you seal with chidori?
Can you make chidori counter a element?

Rasengan can be given to people, breh.
Rasengan can seal, breh.
Rasengan can change properties to counter elements, breh.

RS can be guided mid flight, breh.
RS can be detonated at will, breh.
RS can expand in size and radius mid flight, breh.
RS can be caught and thrown again on some frisbee shit.

Rasengan might as well be a wonder ball because the shit does everything.

Need to blow some shit up? Pick a FRS variety

Need to go give an ally some fire power? Hand that nukka a Rasengan!

Need to **** someone up without destroying everything around you? Mini-Rasenshuriken.

Need to seal someone? Sealing Rasengan, breh.

You wanna send that shit to follow someone? Guide that shit.

You wanna blow it up a lil early? Do it, breh.

Oh, is he using water style? Use this lava rasengan breh.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Yeah, thank for providing my point. Rasengan/RS is just a ball of ****ing chakra where as chidori is lightning.

At the end of the day it's a ball of chakra without constraint of elemental counters. Capable of being used depending on the situation.

Can you give chidori to someone?
Can you seal with chidori?
Can you make chidori counter a element?

Rasengan can be given to people, breh.
Rasengan can seal, breh.
Rasengan can change properties to counter elements, breh.

RS can be guided mid flight, breh.
RS can be detonated at will, breh.
RS can expand in size and radius mid flight, breh.
RS can be caught and thrown again on some frisbee shit.

Rasengan might as well be a wonder ball because the shit does everything.

Need to blow some shit up? Pick a FRS variety

Need to go give an ally some fire power? Hand that nukka a Rasengan!

Need to **** someone up without destroying everything around you? Mini-Rasenshuriken.

Need to seal someone? Sealing Rasengan, breh.

You wanna send that shit to follow someone? Guide that shit.

You wanna blow it up a lil early? Do it, breh.

Oh, is he using water style? Use this lava rasengan breh.

you can dress a cat in a thousand different costumes, but the costumes won't make the cat any more than it is. Your argument is valid, but it isn't 100% bulletproof either. A Rasengan/RS with different releases is still a Rasengan/RS, otherwise it wouldn't be a parent jutsu.