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[Discussion] Dumbest/Weirdest One Piece theories and comments you've read

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Passerby said:
2- Luffy can go G4 instantly now as seen against Cracker. Yeah Doffy is pretty much screwed.
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When was it ever stated that fluffy couldn't go gear 2nd in first place

Doffy would not be screwed physically sure he's overpowered

Speed is toss up

Stamina clearly goes for doffy

Endurance goes to doffy (gamma knife is moore powerful/hax then anything that luffy has ever hit)

Haki mastery goes to luffy barely

Devil fruit mastery obviously doffy

Not to mention doffy is 100 doffy all the time luffy is gear 4th for about 10-20 min
 
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Blaze Arirut said:
Well Pirates use to steal food items like vine, fruits, dry fruits etc. They used to have a particular area of operation after which they goes into hiding eg: Somalian Pirates. These guys were not moving round the world in their shipping vessels.

Also after their raids they use to spend like extravagants. Best example is Pirates of Carribean 1st movie where Barbossa's crew spend last of Aztec Treasure without knowing that it was cursed in Totuga and other places.
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You might wanna take a look at what section we're in and try again.

I see u left the second most important guy in a Ship. Even wiki has mentioned First Mate is 2nd in command and he/she is the one who checks other guys doing their respective roles in the ship.
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You don't need a first mate. The Strawhats have no one that does this, and they've gotten along fine.

On the other hand, a need for all those other roles has been stressed more than once in the manga.
 
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Passerby said:
2- Luffy can go G4 instantly now as seen against Cracker. Yeah Doffy is pretty much screwed.
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Him going gear 4th instantly makes a difference??? Doffy can tank it also Doffy if going all in and not messing around can start off with awekning....so after 10-15 mins of 4th gear it is gg for Luffy
 
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Howlett said:
Everyone knows the best part about sailing the world is starving to death! Shipwright, captain, navigator, cook, and doctor are the pinnacle roles.
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i think cook is most important job too

look at big moms cook
he is practically the true leader due to the influence he has on big mom
 
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Howlett said:
You might wanna take a look at what section we're in and try again.
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I was giving a general idea that most of the pirates seems fine without any cook.

You don't need a first mate. The Strawhats have no one that does this, and they've gotten along fine.

On the other hand, a need for all those other roles has been stressed more than once in the manga.
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First part is not true at all. Zoro has been stressed twice by OP character that he is SH FM that's a different thing that he has hardly shown any trait of FM.
Secondly Nami can cook. I m sure other guys like Franky can create wine(cola thing) and Ussop must have gathered detailed veggie knowledge post time skip. Combined they can manage to cook something till they reach another island.
 
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Blaze Arirut said:
I was giving a general idea that most of the pirates seems fine without any cook.


First part is not true at all. Zoro has been stressed twice by OP character that he is SH FM that's a different thing that he has hardly shown any trait of FM.
Secondly Nami can cook. I m sure other guys like Franky can create vine(cola thing) and Ussop must have gathered detailed veggie knowledge post time skip. Combined they can manage to cook something till they reach another island.
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What a load of nonsense. You can wipe everything under the carpet like that.

First you take a manga scenario, mix it with real life history and apply it back onto the manga again. It's all very cool that pirates used to trade and steal food back in the day. But what also is pretty cool is that as soon as Sanji was missing, Luffy set the the kitchen on fire and poisoned himself. And Nami with her homecooking skills and Chopper with his vegetables and poison information were present and let it happen.

So point one is, it doesn't matter what happened in real life because it doesn't apply on the manga. Luffy dies without a cook. Otherwise we could also bring in the fact that scurvy dropped sailors like flies and stresses the importance of a knowledgeable cook aboard the ship who monitors diets.

Point two is that there is no substitute for a professional, Nami might be able to whip something up. But the one time she did when Sanji wasn't there she said she had to follow Sanji's recipe to a t. And we've seen it before when Usopp was fixing the Merry as a fill-in shipwright but failed to see that he wasn't doing a good job until it was too late.

Zoro never was appointed by the crew and especially not by Luffy that he holds the title of first mate. If you check the wiki of One Piece you would see that very few crews have a first mate in One Piece. The term First Mate or Vice-captain is incredibly overused in this section because it doesn't play as much of a role in One Piece at all. Besides that there is no real hierarchy within the Strawhat ranks, Zoro would also be one of the least qualified persons within the crew to fill that position because he doesn't have the leadership capabilities that you would need for that position, he just has the strength. If you would compare Rayleigh or Killer to Zoro there is a difference in the way they deal with a situation when their hot headed captain charges in somewhere. So it doesn't really matter what Urouge has to say about Zoro because he is just basing it of a number. Just like you by the way because there is no panel that implies that Zoro is actually the first mate.

We have 20 years of One Piece and the most information about Zoro's position has been given by people who aren't in the crew. Not very convincing.
 
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What a load of nonsense. You can wipe everything under the carpet like that.

First you take a manga scenario, mix it with real life history and apply it back onto the manga again. It's all very cool that pirates used to trade and steal food back in the day. But what also is pretty cool is that as soon as Sanji was missing, Luffy set the the kitchen on fire and poisoned himself. And Nami with her homecooking skills and Chopper with his vegetables and poison information were present and let it happen.

So point one is, it doesn't matter what happened in real life because it doesn't apply on the manga. Luffy dies without a cook. Otherwise we could also bring in the fact that scurvy dropped sailors like flies and stresses the importance of a knowledgeable cook aboard the ship who monitors diets.

Point two is that there is no substitute for a professional, Nami might be able to whip something up. But the one time she did when Sanji wasn't there she said she had to follow Sanji's recipe to a t. And we've seen it before when Usopp was fixing the Merry as a fill-in shipwright but failed to see that he wasn't doing a good job until it was too late.
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Nami was the main cook before Sanji joined and Luffy, Zoro, Ussop and others were fine.
Even post Dressrosa Luffy, Zoro, Ussop, Franky and Robin had no issues regarding food in Barto's ship.
If SHs were shown like regular pirates then they would have also traded/steal food like normal pirates use to do that was my point when I said most pirates were fine without any cook.

Zoro never was appointed by the crew and especially not by Luffy that he holds the title of first mate. If you check the wiki of One Piece you would see that very few crews have a first mate in One Piece. The term First Mate or Vice-captain is incredibly overused in this section because it doesn't play as much of a role in One Piece at all. Besides that there is no real hierarchy within the Strawhat ranks, Zoro would also be one of the least qualified persons within the crew to fill that position because he doesn't have the leadership capabilities that you would need for that position, he just has the strength. If you would compare Rayleigh or Killer to Zoro there is a difference in the way they deal with a situation when their hot headed captain charges in somewhere. So it doesn't really matter what Urouge has to say about Zoro because he is just basing it of a number. Just like you by the way because there is no panel that implies that Zoro is actually the first mate.

We have 20 years of One Piece and the most information about Zoro's position has been given by people who aren't in the crew. Not very convincing.
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Urogue & Barto both said Zoro is SH FM. Their is no denying that none of the characters in OPverse ever gave FM title to other SH characters like Nami or Ussop.
Even if it is their opinion based on rumour, still it shows OPverse characters(pirates mostly) has started seeing Zoro as a potential FM in SH crew.
 
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Love Cook said:
What a load of nonsense. You can wipe everything under the carpet like that.

First you take a manga scenario, mix it with real life history and apply it back onto the manga again. It's all very cool that pirates used to trade and steal food back in the day. But what also is pretty cool is that as soon as Sanji was missing, Luffy set the the kitchen on fire and poisoned himself. And Nami with her homecooking skills and Chopper with his vegetables and poison information were present and let it happen.

So point one is, it doesn't matter what happened in real life because it doesn't apply on the manga. Luffy dies without a cook. Otherwise we could also bring in the fact that scurvy dropped sailors like flies and stresses the importance of a knowledgeable cook aboard the ship who monitors diets.

Point two is that there is no substitute for a professional, Nami might be able to whip something up. But the one time she did when Sanji wasn't there she said she had to follow Sanji's recipe to a t. And we've seen it before when Usopp was fixing the Merry as a fill-in shipwright but failed to see that he wasn't doing a good job until it was too late.

Zoro never was appointed by the crew and especially not by Luffy that he holds the title of first mate. If you check the wiki of One Piece you would see that very few crews have a first mate in One Piece. The term First Mate or Vice-captain is incredibly overused in this section because it doesn't play as much of a role in One Piece at all. Besides that there is no real hierarchy within the Strawhat ranks, Zoro would also be one of the least qualified persons within the crew to fill that position because he doesn't have the leadership capabilities that you would need for that position, he just has the strength. If you would compare Rayleigh or Killer to Zoro there is a difference in the way they deal with a situation when their hot headed captain charges in somewhere. So it doesn't really matter what Urouge has to say about Zoro because he is just basing it of a number. Just like you by the way because there is no panel that implies that Zoro is actually the first mate.

We have 20 years of One Piece and the most information about Zoro's position has been given by people who aren't in the crew. Not very convincing.
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Hit the nail on the head. In addition to this, when an actual first mate is in the volume intro boxes, he's listed as first mate.
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In the Strawhats' roles, as recently as Zou(most recent version I can find), Zoro is listed as "fighter," not "first mate."
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Never forgot even die-hard Zoro fanboy Bogard admitted Zoro is essentially the pretend First Mate way back when.
 
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