Indra technically won.

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If Sasuke gets power he would be a tyrant. In feudal society and ancient China, emperors who were tyrants were assassinated and it was a constant cycle of war look it up. Kishi from China or Japan knows this and he knows the tyrant ruler always fails in the end. The tyrant has to be powerful just like Sasuke, but if Sasuke was to win, someone in the future would do the same and kill Sasuke and continue a cycle of hatred and destruction. Naruto, aka Democracy, aka freedom, if you look at the Boruto society is way better than a tyrant. Naruto is hokage but he works for the will of fire/ will of people. If in your head you think Indra won and Indra is right then I guess your against Democracy but maybe you didn't see it like that

Sasuke's tyranny and overwhelming power is the key to peace. No one would make a move because the person playing god which is Sasuke, would immediately destroy them to teach them a lesson. Or not, he might let them do war and feel pain and then learn from their lesson, but then again, if that method was workable they wouldn't be in the situation of igniting a new war now would they?

Sorry, but Sasuke's dictatorship isn't half bad.
 

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If by some miracle, Sasuke had his way, then GG earth.

Toneri would succeed in destroying the planet.

Naruto's way was/is the better/superior way.
 

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If by some miracle, Sasuke had his way, then GG earth.

Toneri would succeed in destroying the planet.

Naruto's way was/is the better/superior way.

You actually think Sasuke can't beat Toneri?

Naruto's way clearly failed, we got a whole manga scan of the future of Boruto showing how it failed. Like I said, Asura's line is insane, trying the same methods despite perpetual failure.
 

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Sasuke's tyranny and overwhelming power is the key to peace. No one would make a move because the person playing god which is Sasuke, would immediately destroy them to teach them a lesson. Or not, he might let them do war and feel pain and then learn from their lesson, but then again, if that method was workable they wouldn't be in the situation of igniting a new war now would they?

Sorry, but Sasuke's dictatorship isn't half bad.
You ever heard of the Chinese dynastys? Many of them were tyrants with full control and power. Something Sasuke would have if he beat Naruto. Remember Sasuke did not beat Naruto lol. If he did, Kishi wouldn't end the series like that, you would eventually see something similar happen to Sasuke like what happened to Kaguya. Whats the point of making a series and a show for 7 years just to have the same thing happen all over again. Think about it. You can't say Indra won, the show didn't go down like that.

I get that the order of society has + and - thats just life. In Boruto right now their a peaceful and free society. Sasuke being the protector watching out for future threats aka Terrorism/foreign invaders. Naruto controlling the village, see him doing paperwork, following the will of his people. What else do you wanna see from Naruto? I don't really understand this thread
 

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You ever heard of the Chinese dynastys? Many of them were tyrants with full control and power. Something Sasuke would have if he beat Naruto. Remember Sasuke did not beat Naruto lol. If he did, Kishi wouldn't end the series like that, you would eventually see something similar happen to Sasuke like what happened to Kaguya. Whats the point of making a series and a show for 7 years just to have the same thing happen all over again. Think about it. You can't say Indra won, the show didn't go down like that.

I get that the order of society has + and - thats just life. In Boruto right now their a peaceful and free society. Sasuke being the protector watching out for future threats aka Terrorism/foreign invaders. Naruto controlling the village, see him doing paperwork, following the will of his people. What else do you wanna see from Naruto? I don't really understand this thread

Sasuke has the power nearing that of a God. He can keep peace globally. A dynasty of mere mortals with no supernatural abilities cannot be compared to Sasuke, a fictional character with abilities that could probably bring world peace.
 

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You actually think Sasuke can't beat Toneri?

Naruto's way clearly failed, we got a whole manga scan of the future of Boruto showing how it failed. Like I said, Asura's line is insane, trying the same methods despite perpetual failure.
If you think that Sasuke can beat Toneri then good maybe he can and maybe he can't. Sasuke and Toneri both lost to Naruto so we don't really know. If you think that Sasuke being in control and being a tyrant will save them from future destruction then your even more wrong. Sorry to burst that bubble. Sasuke would have bad relations with the 5 nations hell probably have them under his control and the tailed beast under control, but when the alien Otsosuki's come and take over you think those 5 nations are gonna help him? You think anyone is gonna help Sasuke? Real life shit, why you think Germany lost the war? In real life examples, the tyrant never wins why do you think todays society democratic? The only problem that is major is terrorism and domestic issues like racism and shit like donald trump supporters
 

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Sasuke has the power nearing that of a God. He can keep peace globally. A dynasty of mere mortals with no supernatural abilities cannot be compared to Sasuke, a fictional character with abilities that could probably bring world peace.


Your head is too focused on fan fiction bro, IDK how Patrickscott can say make this guy a modder and praise you when everything you said so far was fiction, guess my preaching and facts went over your head. But I get it, Sasuke means a lot to you and your life I just tried to show you the larger picture
 

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Your head is too focused on fan fiction bro, IDK how Patrickscott can say make this guy a modder and praise you when everything you said so far was fiction, guess my preaching and facts went over your head. But I get it, Sasuke means a lot to you and your life I just tried to show you the larger picture

How am I focused on fanfiction? Sasuke's plan actually has a chance due to the fact that his world is different from ours. Do you think humans would wage wars anymore if God showed up one day and threatened us?
 

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Naruto is not as strong as Sasuke.

You're somewhat right about the Ootsutsuki threat which is why it would be better for both Naruto and Sasuke to survive and use one another's philosophies for peace rather than one killing the other, or giving in to the other's plan.

This is the right answer. At least that is what I believe. It wasn't that Ashura failed so did Indra. They failed because it takes both Cooperation AND power for true peace. They only saw one half of it and so did Hagoromo. Had he chosen Indra Ashura would have eventually challenged him because of the bonds he shared with others. Their fear would have driven him to stand against Indra and they both would have ended up dying anyway.

The cycle was broken when Hagoromo finally bequeathed both with equal power of varying aspects instead of choosing one ideology over the other.
 

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You actually think Sasuke can't beat Toneri?

Naruto's way clearly failed, we got a whole manga scan of the future of Boruto showing how it failed. Like I said, Asura's line is insane, trying the same methods despite perpetual failure.

Never said he couldn't. But he'd succeed in destroying the earth.

Nice try but Kawaki, like the otsutsuki's, fall outside of his plan. They don't consider themselves part of the Shinobi system. Indra's line was worse, being constantly manipulated by BZ.
 

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How am I focused on fanfiction? Sasuke's plan actually has a chance due to the fact that his world is different from ours. Do you think humans would wage wars anymore if God showed up one day and threatened us?

I seen your comment on a similar thread saying Naruto should've ended with Sasuke as hokage
You know what you're doing
You can think your trolling me but I'm done with this thread go to sleep kid, you feed on the bait and the internet. Too much internet for you go get a life sorry :( I'm not reading this thread anymore either

BTW anyone else who read this comment his response to Naruto ending with sasuke as hokage was
- Why, So sasuke could just kill another group of persecuted people ell.
 

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This is the right answer. At least that is what I believe. It wasn't that Ashura failed so did Indra. They failed because it takes both Cooperation AND power for true peace. They only saw one half of it and so did Hagoromo. Had he chosen Indra Ashura would have eventually challenged him because of the bonds he shared with others. Their fear would have driven him to stand against Indra and they both would have ended up dying anyway.

The cycle was broken when Hagoromo finally bequeathed both with equal power of varying aspects instead of choosing one ideology over the other.

The cycle hasn't been broken. Indra (Sasuke) gave into (Asura) Naruto's plan, letting Asura choose for the second time which as we've seen with the future scan, resulted in failure.
 

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Never said he couldn't. But he'd succeed in destroying the earth.

Nice try but Kawaki, like the otsutsuki's, fall outside of his plan. They don't consider themselves part of the Shinobi system. Indra's line was worse, being constantly manipulated by BZ.

Kawaki is still a human unlike the Otsutsuki and still counts a member of the world at large. The goal isn't just to fix the shinobi world, it's to fix the whole world.

Even though team Indra got manipulated by Zetsu they were actually going to create world peace, but then we found out it was all a plan to make Zetsu armies so the plan was whack. Regardless, their plan was still fool-proof, Asura's descendants weren't manipulated and still made errors that would have easily been avoided.
 

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Only in your dreams was Indra right. Manga tells a different story.
 

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If by some miracle, Sasuke had his way, then GG earth.

Toneri would succeed in destroying the planet.

Naruto's way was/is the better/superior way.

Naruto and Sasuke plans were equally as awesome

the problem is once they both die the world will go back to how it was regardless.

If whole world at war with Sasuke then once sasuke die they go back to war with one another

If the world is at peace while Naruto leads once Naruto dies it will go back to normal

Think of Hashirama situation where things were calm during his reign but quickly went to shit after his death
 

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Sasuke' s plan is bullshit, it is very stupid and egocentric, it would never have worked.
I' m glad that Naruto>Sasuke so that he couldn' t succeed, like every Indra transmigrant who were all bad losers.
 
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