#Indra's Lineage > Asura's

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A lot of people have this misconception that the Uzumaki and Senju have better genetics but I'll explain as to why they're genetics are extremely useless in most situations in comparison to the Sharingan. But first, let's look at some basic examples and comparisons of Indra and Asura's sons.


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Enter, Obito Uchiha

Obito is born into the Uchiha clan as an extremely lower class shinobi who struggles with the most basic techniques and abilities and has to practice more than everyone else to even come to the basic level of comprehension concerning the techniques and abilities. Despite his lack of talent, once awakening his gift, Obito became extremely talented and powerful, allowing him to kill multiple ANBU on his own as a young teen and even destroy his own clan's police force.

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Enter, Naruto Uzumaki

Naruto is basically a parallel of Obito, but is a descendant of Asura. Despite Naruto's lack of talent, through sheer luck of birth and incident, he's blessed with multiple gifts. Despite his very high stamina, chakra reserves, and life force, Naruto was unable to keep up with his teammate Sasuke Uchiha who by his generations standards was a genius but by previous generations standards was not.

In their final fight before being separated, Sasuke uses the power of the curse-mark to overwhelm Naruto, but soon deactivates it once Naruto unleashes his own outside power. Mind you, Naruto was unable to defeat Sasuke even when the curse-mark was deactivated due to Sasuke's inherent talent and Sharingan. Naruto's genetics could not save him, leading him to rely on the Nine-Tails which even then resulted in failure.


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The Uchiha clan, despite only having the normal Sharingan, was equal to the Senju for hundreds of years. Mind you, the Senju had to use hundreds of techniques in order to stay on the same level as the Uchiha which is not a Senju trait. The Uchiha relying on their own genetics stayed on top while the Senju had to master so many healing arts, sealing arts, teleportation techniques etc in order to keep up. Their own lifeforce and bodily abilities were not sufficient enough to keep up.

Once Hashirama's wood-style and Tobirama's flying thunder God came along, the Senju were finally at the top, but remove those two and the Uchiha with a few Mangekyo users running around would decimate the Senju.

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The story of Asura and Indra is short and sweet. Indra was born with everything and Asura with nothing. Later on, Asura awakened his bodily powers and was somehow equal to Indra, but also, received power from Hagoromo as well, resulting in Asura having Truth Seeker Balls of some sort and despite that fact, Indra stalemated with his brother.

This shows that despite the constant clinging toward outside power sources on Asura's line, the Uchiha still pull through with their own gift, the Sharingan.
 

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Indra's lineage kept losing against Ashura's side.
Ashura was the leader of ninshuu, Hashirama the kage, Naruto the nanadaime.
Indra and Madara were bad losers that kept losing against Ashura's side, only Sasuke was smart enough to admit his defeat and inferiority to end the cycle of losses.
 
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Indra's lineage kept losing against Ashura's side.
Ashura was the leader of ninshuu, Hashirama the kage, Naruto the nanadaime.
Indra and Madara were bad losers that kept losing against Ashura's side, only Sasuke was smart enough to admit his defeat and inferiority to end the cycle of losses.
Who won in the first VOTE fight? Thought so.

Also, were Naruto and Sasuke to fight with their own powers and no outside sources, who would win? I thought so.


The reality is, Hashirama is his own man, despite being Asura's reincarnate and descendant, he rose above due to his own talent and KKG which had nothing to do with his clan at large. His clan was even renamed because of his KKG; "Senju Clan of the Forest".
 

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Didn't read. Uchiha are natural born losers. Even with the power of nine bijuu, killing intents Sasuke was unable to kill TIRED NARUTO. Not to mention that most of relevant Uchiha had ton of hangouts and free power ups.
 
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Didn't read. Uchiha are natural born losers. Even with the power of nine bijuu, killing intents Sasuke was unable to kill TIRED NARUTO. Not to mention that most of relevant Uchiha had ton of hangouts and free power ups.
A tired Naruto who has Uzumaki stamina and the power of multiple tailed beasts inside of him? Not to mention the fact that he's MC?

I'm pretty sure Asura and Naruto were natural born losers who needed gifts from their daddies to win fights.
 

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wow,where yu burthurt by someone or what mate?
Hagoromo DIDNOT give asura any power,go get your facts right before you puplicly embarass yourself
damn...too salty..no wonder all the top uchiha's have Hashirama's DNA in their body.
just go rest son,a regular uchiha cannever have MS and not go blind in years to come,so you have no point...thanks to Hashi's Dna again,obito wa sable to get past the blindness issue
thanks to hashi's Dna again,Kotoamatsukami could be used up to its full potential.
 
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A tired Naruto who has Uzumaki stamina and the power of multiple tailed beasts inside of him? Not to mention the fact that he's MC?

I'm pretty sure Asura and Naruto were natural born losers who needed gifts from their daddies to win fights.
lol..natural born losers who in every generation wooped the uchiha's ass...
Tobirama killed Izuna
Madara was always Hashi's *****..
Sasuke with all his hype and prodigeous talent,lost to a talentless Naruto,even after having the 9 bijuu's in his grasp with Rinnesharingan...
best bloodline indeed.....
lol AIDS itachi says hi....
 
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wow,where yu burthurt by someone or what mate?
Hagoromo DIDNOT give asura any power,go get your facts right before you puplicly embarass yourself
damn...too salty..no wonder all the top uchiha's have Hashirama's DNA in their body.
just go rest son,a regular uchiha cannever have MS and not go blind in years to come,so you have no point...thanks to Hashi's Dna again,obito wa sable to get past the blindness issue
thanks to hashi's Dna again,Kotoamatsukami could be used up to its full potential.
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Sorry but despite being given power the first time, Indra still stalemated.
 
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lol..natural born losers who in every generation wooped the uchiha's ass...
Tobirama killed Izuna
Madara was always Hashi's *****..
Sasuke with all his hype and prodigeous talent,lost to a talentless Naruto,even after having the 9 bijuu's in his grasp with Rinnesharingan...
best bloodline indeed.....
lol AIDS itachi says hi....
Tobirama killed Izuna, but how many people died on both sides in the conflict.

Sasuke beat Naruto at the VOTE, and dominated the fight even without the curse-mark while Naruto relied on outside power. Sasuke was basically fighting in a 2v1, where Kurama and Naruto were fighting him in the second VOTE fight.

No one can deny Madara's losses to Hashirama but Hashirama defeated Madara with his own gifts and power outside of his genetics.
 

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Sorry but despite being given power the first time, Indra still stalemated.
nahh,huge fail,i was talking about ASHURA,NOT NARUTO.
and wasnt Sasuke supoosed to win,sinces he has the better bloodline...
with Hago's power,Rinnesharing and the tailed beast,he still lost..wow! that says alot.
 

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Indra's lineage kept losing against Ashura's side.
Ashura was the leader of ninshuu, Hashirama the kage, Naruto the nanadaime.
Indra and Madara were bad losers that kept losing against Ashura's side, only Sasuke was smart enough to admit his defeat and inferiority to end the cycle of losses.
This^^^
/thread destroyed
 

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Tobirama killed Izuna, but how many people died on both sides in the conflict.

Sasuke beat Naruto at the VOTE, and dominated the fight even without the curse-mark while Naruto relied on outside power. Sasuke was basically fighting in a 2v1, where Kurama and Naruto were fighting him in the second VOTE fight.

No one can deny Madara's losses to Hashirama but Hashirama defeated Madara with his own gifts and power outside of his genetics.
no,Tobirama killed the second in command after Madara,thats a huge achievement.
Sasuke using CUrse mark doesnt count? lol!

we all know sasuke was bent on killing Naruto,while naruto held back even though he claimed he would break his bone...
i laughed at "decimation" both decimated each other.
the only thing that Saved sasuke was because he fought with the intent to kill...via the amount of killing blows he delivered to Naruto.
yea,and madara Never used the Kyuubi against Hashi right?
and sasuke fighting kurama and Naruto at the same time,can you listen to the nonsense you just spewed,get some sense bro,how does that happen when sasuke had the 9 bijuus on his side,a Goddamn lightening susanno,and a Rinnesharingan to boot,while Naruto had only kurama...
2vs1 my as.s cheeks!
 
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nahh,huge fail,i was talking about ASHURA,NOT NARUTO.
and wasnt Sasuke supoosed to win,sinces he has the better bloodline...
with Hago's power,Rinnesharing and the tailed beast,he still lost..wow! that says alot.

wow,where yu burthurt by someone or what mate?
Hagoromo DIDNOT give asura any power,go get your facts right before you puplicly embarass yourself
- Hagoromo sennin
 

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3T Sharingan was rare for Uchiha meanwhile we have average Uzumaki that can survive bijuu extraction, tank fatal blows and neg a buddha statue
 
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3T Sharingan was rare for Uchiha meanwhile we have average Uzumaki that can survive bijuu extraction, tank fatal blows and neg a buddha statue
I doubt it was rare in the warring states era.

Plus, how often did an Uzumaki get in a situation like that? I'd imagine that in battle most people kill you, not test to see if you have the lifeforce of a roach.
 

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So Naruto being MC and the hatred and mistrust of Uchiha's in the village has nothing to do with it?

Concerning Madara and Hashirama, no Senju has the Wood Style. We're comparing the genetics of the two sides and as far as I'm concerned Wood Style is not a Senju KKG.
No other uchiha Had the rinnesharingan,kotoamatsukami,limbo,or amenotejikara too,soo?
see,the history of uchiha villainy has always been like a rebelious teen,with the senju being like their parent that ends up beating sense into them,the only smart uchiha is a dead uchiha,am talking about itachi here.
 
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