Uchiha fans after today episode

[JStar King]

The fact that people consider themselves Uchiha fans and Hyuuga fans is stupid ah lmfaoo

But it's okay to be a Naruto fan? :lol

Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

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[TillIFoundOut]

But it's okay to be a Naruto fan? :lol

Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

:wut:

No bro I am a fan of Naruto as a series. But I notice on this forums that people who consider themselves "Uchiha" fans say the dumbest shit so I had to to make an account. They say the dumbest non factual shit and then most of the time you would see me defending the counter argument. Even Sakura fans they say the dumbest shit, nothing Naruto fans say is dumb bro. Blame it on user sasukesixpack and his threads

 

[KidGamer65]

What does Chakra Sight mean then? And how does Precog work then?

I don't care. You people really need to stop thinking that since something hasn't been explained that you can give it whatever explanation you want to. Me not being able to explain how it works doesn't matter, because we know enough about it to come to the conclusion that you are making up everything you are saying when it comes to the workings of the ability.

It does see better though. It can see the Tenketsu, network, Chakra color, and Chakra flow, Sharingan can only see the latter two.

Byakugan>Sharingan in chakra sight is because Byakugan sees more, not because Byakugan sees it better.

Like I said, Byakugan sees more and you've proven my point.

Mind explaining how Sasuke's "Chakra sight" differs from Byakugan to make it incapable of Byakugan from using precog?

Seeing chakra doesn't let you predict movements. If it did every version of Sharingan and every Dojutsu would have said ability. Thus whatever "chakra sight" you are speaking of has nothing to do with seeing the color and form of chakra. You clearly don't have an argument of your own which is why you are asking me to basically fill in the blanks.

It is new information. Previously, there was only the implication that the Byakugan could keep track of fast movements such as when Neji watched Lee with his Byakugan, same way how Sasuke watched Lee with his 2T Sharingan. Yet neither Neji or Sasuke saw Lee's movements happening before they happened, they simply were able to keep track of him

This statment is more akin to 3T Sharingan's skills than 2t Sharingan's.

Shikadai's statement is not the same as this at all.

"In battle, it can tell how your enemy's going to move"

Going to.

As in, future tense. As in, it hasn't happened yet. As in, precognition.

Unless this is a wrong translation, then that means Byakugan isn't simply capable of keeping up with enemy movements, but also seeing movements before they are going to happen.

You aren't making sense. If Neji wasn't seeing Lee's actions before they happened there was no precognition going on thus the Byakugan does not have precognition. Shikadai's statement simply means that you can track your opponent's movements, which is Sharingan does before even getting the 3rd tomoe. How do you even think that 2-Tomoe "tracks" enemy movements? Lmao.

3-Tomoe, 2-Tomoe and 1-Tomoe all have the same ability, but at different levels.

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, so no, even if the Byakugan can do what the Sharingan does, it being on par w/ Sharingan is baseless.


It's funny how you think a statement changes the abilities the Byakugan has when we've seen it's abilities and how good it is, and when it comes to following movements it was never put on the same level as the Sharingan. The sharingan is the only Dojutsu actually shown to have a special way to track movements at it's peak. So don't go trying to put them as equals now. Shikadai's statement doesn't contradict what was shown nor does it rewrite reality.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I don't care. You people really need to stop thinking that since something hasn't been explained that you can give it whatever explanation you want to. Me not being able to explain how it works doesn't matter, because we know enough about it to come to the conclusion that you are making up everything you are saying when it comes to the workings of the ability.

Like I said, Byakugan sees more and you've proven my point.

Seeing chakra doesn't let you predict movements. If it did every version of Sharingan and every Dojutsu would have said ability. Thus whatever "chakra sight" you are speaking of has nothing to do with seeing the color and form of chakra. You clearly don't have an argument of your own which is why you are asking me to basically fill in the blanks.

You aren't making sense. If Neji wasn't seeing Lee's actions before they happened there was no precognition going on thus the Byakugan does not have precognition. Shikadai's statement simply means that you can track your opponent's movements, which is Sharingan does before even getting the 3rd tomoe. How do you even think that 2-Tomoe "tracks" enemy movements? Lmao.

3-Tomoe, 2-Tomoe and 1-Tomoe all have the same ability, but at different levels.

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, so no, even if the Byakugan can do what the Sharingan does, it being on par w/ Sharingan is baseless.


It's funny how you think a statement changes the abilities the Byakugan has when we've seen it's abilities and how good it is, and when it comes to following movements it was never put on the same level as the Sharingan. The sharingan is the only Dojutsu actually shown to have a special way to track movements at it's peak. So don't go trying to put them as equals now. Shikadai's statement doesn't contradict what was shown nor does it rewrite reality.

I don't get why you keep saying Shikadai's statement doesn't change anything. There is a very clear distinction between keeping track of movements (2t & what you say Byakugan does) and seeing attacks before they happen (3t & what I'm saying Byakugan does).

Shikadai literally says 'it can tell how your enemy's GOING TO move"

Going to move means the enemy has not moved yet. Meaning it's not keeping track AS the opponent moves. Meaning it is in fact precognition.

If it was simply keeping track, then Shikadai wouldn't be using future tense when the tracking opponents is something that happens AS the opponent moves in the present, while precognition is seeing the opponent's movements BEFORE they move EI the future.

With all that said, I'm not saying Byakugan doesn't have high-speed tracking, but it has that and precognition.

Only way this statment of Shikadai's is wrong and DOESN'T refer to seeing things before they happen (GOING TO) is if it's a mis translation.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't get why you keep saying Shikadai's statement doesn't change anything. There is a very clear distinction between keeping track of movements (2t & what you say Byakugan does) and seeing attacks before they happen (3t & what I'm saying Byakugan does).

Shikadai literally says 'it can tell how your enemy's GOING TO move"

Going to move means the enemy has not moved yet. Meaning it's not keeping track AS the opponent moves. Meaning it is in fact precognition.

If it was simply keeping track, then Shikadai wouldn't be using future tense when the tracking opponents is something that happens AS the opponent moves in the present, while precognition is seeing the opponent's movements BEFORE they move EI the future.

With all that said, I'm not saying Byakugan doesn't have high-speed tracking, but it has that and precognition.

Only way this statment of Shikadai's is wrong and DOESN'T refer to seeing things before they happen (GOING TO) is if it's a mis translation.

Yet the actual feats disagree. Regardless. It is not Sharingan so do not equate it to the Sharingan. That simple.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yet the actual feats disagree. Regardless. It is not Sharingan so do not equate it to the Sharingan. That simple.

So? Does that mean Sakura can't heal her organs because she has no feats of it? Does that mean Hinata's Byakugan doesn't have a blind spot? There's nothing in previous canon material that disagrees AT ALL with Byakugan having precognition. Again, Byakugan can have both preocog and high speed tracking.

Okay, I won't compare to sharingan. But the words "going to" still make it clear as crystal that it is precognition. Whether its above of below Sharingan's is another topic.

 

[KidGamer65]

So? Does that mean Sakura can't heal her organs because she has no feats of it? Does that mean Hinata's Byakugan doesn't have a blind spot? There's nothing in previous canon material that disagrees AT ALL with Byakugan having precognition. Again, Byakugan can have both preocog and high speed tracking.

Okay, I won't compare to sharingan. But the words "going to" still make it clear as crystal that it is precognition. Whether its above of below Sharingan's is another topic.

Byakugan was actually shown not to have Sharingan-esque precognition.

-Hinata's Byakugan wasn't shown NOT to have a blind spot.
-Sakura wasn't shown to NOT be able to heal her organs.
-The Byakugan's abilities were all shown, and this type of precognition wasn't among said abilities.

There is plenty in previous canon that disagrees with Byakugan having Sharingan-esque precognition. But we'll see what they do with it from here.