[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 866 Discussion and 867 Predictions
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That would be amazing. I was always a fan of the theory that Uranus is a Devil Fruit, but that'd be legit. Make sense that Elbaf would have an Ancient Weapon.
Im still not sold on the giant power hype (on a "would definitely have been PK" kinda scale), spmething I wrote in a previous chap. discussion and was chastised for, and maybe for good reason. That made me think what Loki would be like and i think him/a sibling of his having an ancient weapon Mjolnir could be a very intriguing way of both living up to the Elbaf hype as well as not make a god tier out of the blue
Because so far, despite giants seeming like an incredible armz compared to even the marine masses or WB faceless warriors, they fall very far short of actually being anywhere close to even slightly higher tiers. And today, again, it was said the Elbaf army, not specifically referencing one giant. Atm i kinda see it as perhaps someone being a bit above inuyarashi/nekomamushi kinda powerscaling, which is certainly amazing (and that alone would put them in the upper .000something% of the OP world) but I think falls a bit short to the hype some fans have already built up in their heads
It'd be fun if sky and thunder would be combined in a Uranus hammer
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We literally just went over this, you're arguing context you're imposing into others words. If it's a question mark it's a question not a declaration of another's thoughts by me.
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Yea you gotta love how oda does this he's truly mastered his story telling, and that giant child sitting behind Hajrudin while he was fighting is the same giant who was with Rayleigh when he escaped from the auction house now that I look at the panel closely. yea oda is a genius.
I don't get how ppl who dislike the current state of OP got through part 1 XD what we have atm is basically quintessential OP, whacky island, whacky creatures, sprinkled with a lot of funnys, some action, the big bad main protagonist closely tied to the larger world factions structure, a lot of characters, references to past arcs and characters ...
nothing against disliking it, I jsut legit wonder if a lot of fans simply like part 1 beacause of the few arcs like Marineford, EL and Sabaody and dislike the NW because nothing like that has happened yet
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Oh yeah, because rhetorical and sarcastic questions don't exist! You're not fooling a single person.
It's probably the action hounds. I'm personally loving the arc.
Yea bro oda is beast... i cant wait to see how he will have luffy defeat kaido.. i can get by with him beating bigmom like how he beat doffy.. but not kaido he is far toooooo strong.. i cant even begin to think of how luffy will deal with him. Lol
I will say this tho the way oda is setting up bigmoms back story to make her be hated is almost conformation she will be defeated this arc nobody liked her not her parents.. or her children... get her outta here luffy please she is just a stepping stone!!
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Marineford? That isn't even close to being my fav arc of OP. I love the excuse of fans who come up with "oh must be action tards" when people point out negative aspects of post ts.
The fanboy glasses must really make one blind to not see the repetitive content Oda's throwing out.
Also if you think pre ts had not much to offer compared to post ts.. then you should ask yourself if you actually have read OP and understood what happened.
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- the same formula every arc
- the crews dreams don't matter anymore
- half of the strawhats is used as damsel in distress and their characer reverts back to being useless after the've beaten someone in a fight
- looking for character development in op, please! and i don't mean the fail attemtpt with lame flahbacks
- fights are now boring and predictable
- oda tries to implement too many characters at once and they don't have any chemistry (best example dressrosa)
- oh have i mentioned that new characters are the 2.0 version of old ones?
- we are in the new world, so where is the danger we should feel with the yonkos in the play?
- mc should have been matured atleast one bit, but for some reason the same one dimensional character jumping around and doing nonsense in every serious situaion because why not with the heavy plot armor and with getting saved from someone else anyway... no matter if it's the new world with the strongest opponents around! luffy will always be luffy.. excuse of a lazy writer who only thinks about milking the series from now on and it's okay, since the fanboys are okay with generic.. because it's one piece!
luffy can be luffy and stil change and have development
atleast usopp did change... he accepted that he is not just useless and a burden, his dynamic with luffy changed and he no longer holds subconscious resentment
some fans should reread arcs like arlong park, alabasta etc and see what made op a good shounen before it turned into this
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for some reason i liked this chapter more than i thought i would...
could be that we finally got confrimed by oda that calling bm the weakest yonko is absurd when she destroyed an elbaf village as a child and, most likely before she had her devil fruit
- the crews dreams don't matter anymore
- half of the strawhats is used as damsel in distress and their characer reverts back to being useless after the've beaten someone in a fight
- looking for character development in op, please! and i don't mean the fail attemtpt with lame flahbacks
- fights are now boring and predictable
- oda tries to implement too many characters at once and they don't have any chemistry (best example dressrosa)
- oh have i mentioned that new characters are the 2.0 version of old ones?
- we are in the new world, so where is the danger we should feel with the yonkos in the play?
- mc should have been matured atleast one bit, but for some reason the same one dimensional character jumping around and doing nonsense in every serious situaion because why not with the heavy plot armor and with getting saved from someone else anyway... no matter if it's the new world with the strongest opponents around! luffy will always be luffy.. excuse of a lazy writer who only thinks about milking the series from now on and it's okay, since the fanboys are okay with generic.. because it's one piece!
luffy can be luffy and stil change and have development
atleast usopp did change... he accepted that he is not just useless and a burden, his dynamic with luffy changed and he no longer holds subconscious resentment
some fans should reread arcs like arlong park, alabasta etc and see what made op a good shounen before it turned into this
anyway back to topic:
for some reason i liked this chapter more than i thought i would...
could be that we finally got confrimed by oda that calling bm the weakest yonko is absurd when she destroyed an elbaf village as a child and, most likely before she had her devil fruit
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Same formula does not mean the same story. The entire story has used the same formula: Strawhats arrive at island, befriend a person there, and fight a big bad to liberate/save/help that friend. Same skeleton, but the meat on the bones for each arc still creates a different story.
Usopp's bravery was addressed in Dressrosa. Sanji's was in Fishman Island(jokingly) and alluded to this current arc as a stake. You're going to get a bit less focus on dreams because pre-skip was about introducing the characters and starting their journey, so we'd hear about their dreams more. The New World has to actually introduce the New World, which means more characters and environments need to be explored and fleshed out. If you think the dreams don't matter anymore, then you haven't really been paying attention.
Again, this isn't new. We got this back in Enie's Lobby. Not Robin, but Sanji telling Usopp that there's things each of them can't do, and need the others for. So we have situations where characters need help from others. There hasn't been a "damsel in distress" since Enie's Lobby and no, Sanji in Whole Cake doesn't count.
Subjective. You can't pass this off as a reason that One Piece is universally/objective bad post-skip.
Kaido dominating Four Supernova at the same time? Big Mom's henchmen manhandling four of the top fighters on Luffy's side? Blackbeard hunting DF users like flies? All sufficient IMO
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it worked with the few first arcs, but now it is just recycling older arcs with different characters but most of the stuff is the same and is repeated..
@I and here is the problem.. as i have mentioned above that oda tries to implement too many characters at once and fails at fleshing out more than half of them and turns out to be a complete mess and chaotic as we have only seen in post ts..
not to mention that most of them are just going to pop up as fodder fighters for luffy and will be left behind again
@U wasn't talking about sanji anway.. it's only the haters who they that but whatever... what i'm talking about is how useless some of the strawhats's have been portrayed by oda and are just there to be bystanders in most situations and get saved by the captain... this happened more than once and it's ridiculous to have this in the new world, when we all know what they are capable of!
yes, you know exactly how many damsel in distress we have seen and helping each other as sanji mentioned is something totally different
that is actually one of the best parts of the strawhats pre ts... it showed the chemistry they had and the team work we have seen in many arcs before, but sadly that is missing now
you can't? why?so many one-sided fights, getting interrupted or cut out can ruin a part of what op is
and this has nothing to do with being a action fanboy... fights are part of op and just compare pre ts to post ts and you see how creative and enjoyable the fights were back then
@B and U but that gets thrown in the trash with all the plot armor luffy has
he acts as childish as he was in grandline in situtations that normaly should cost him his head, but he gets out of it so easy as nothing happened..
this destroys any danger oda's trying to built up with the new world/yonko
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Yeah bro, I can't believe how well he connects characters.. it's getting better and better with each arc.
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Holy crap!! :WAT: Are you serious?!?!? Daaaammnnnn I didn't notice that at all! lol :busy:
Yooo nice find man!!! For real! This is getting ridiculous now lol Oda is the best!
I know bro! Kaido is just that character that I have no clue on how he'll be defeated.. he's gonna be tough that's for sure. Idk what Oda has planned but I'll bet any amount of money that's it's gonna be good! xd haha
Oh for sure. Most definitely. Notice how even the giants don't f*ck with her.. and we all KNOW that the giants are gonna be allies AF with the Strawhats lol..
She's goin down!!
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Pre-time skip had way more focused and enjoyable fights and it was actually hype back then. What we have been seeing in the new world are little snippets and pieces of fights that have been either cut off or not focused on. Hell, Oda never even showed us Aokiji vs Akainu, which I'm sure we all wanted to see. The only fight that has been great post skip was Doffy vs Luffy and everyone was hyped for g4, which is why it was great.
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