SM Hashirama vs Madara,Itachi and Sasuke

[Tauren Chieftain]

EMS Madara without Kurama , EMS war arc Sasuke , alive Itachi

Intel : Full
Location : vote
Distance : 100 m

Hashirama starts in SM

 

[Beans2]

Shinsuusenju turns them to dust.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Dude... Tsukyomi... and I'm not even a huge fan of the uchiha

 

[Hakke]

Dude... Tsukyomi... and I'm not even a huge fan of the uchiha

can't Hashirama just close his eyes to avoid eye contact?

he can just fight with his eyes closed while sensing everything w/ sage mode, right?

 

[TheTailedSage]

can't Hashirama just close his eyes to avoid eye contact?

he can just fight with his eyes closed while sensing w/ sage mode, right?

Life don't work like that

 

[The Messiah]

SS pounds these dudes.

 

[TheTailedSage]

SS pounds these dudes.

How exactly?

 

[The Messiah]

How exactly?

With chojo kebetsu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

With chojo kebetsu.

That defiantly needs hand signs. Just explain the counter for tsukyomi + Hashirama isn't going to have any time to weave any signs with 3 Uchiha on his ass, one of which has inescapable Genjutsu and the other with amatarasu. Not fanboying I just want counters

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That defiantly needs hand signs. Just explain the counter for tsukyomi + Hashirama isn't going to have any time to weave any signs with 3 Uchiha on his ass, one of which has inescapable Genjutsu and the other with amatarasu. Not fanboying I just want counters

youre assuming hashirama makes eye contact, when there's no reason for him to. SMlets him sense ama and sub out with mafly or block los.

 

[The Messiah]

That defiantly needs hand signs. Just explain the counter for tsukyomi + Hashirama isn't going to have any time to weave any signs with 3 Uchiha on his ass, one of which has inescapable Genjutsu and the other with amatarasu. Not fanboying I just want counters

Shinsuusenju only took one hand sign.

I doubt tsukuyomi is doing anything to Hashi but he can fight with his eyes closed anyway.

Hashi can block line of sight with mokuton to deal with amaterasu and anything Madara throws at him can easily be countered like ps slashes get caught by ss hands and anything else Madara uses isn't doing anything to ss.

 

[TheTailedSage]

youre assuming hashirama makes eye contact, when there's no reason for him to. SMlets him sense ama and sub out with mafly or block los.

And your assuming Hashi is fast enough to evade all 3 Uchiha whilst also having to deal with annoying genjutsu like Dusk crow which he can et out of BUT by that time, shit already hit the fan. There are just way too many variables.

If all three are going susanoo he would have 2 perfect susanoo to contend with plus Totsuka blade. Safe sensing can only get you so far, and Hashirama isn't fast enough to put meneuver all 3. He hasn't shown speed feats to suggest he can.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

And your assuming Hashi is fast enough to evade all 3 Uchiha whilst also having to deal with annoying genjutsu like Dusk crow which he can et out of BUT by that time, shit already hit the fan. There are just way too many variables.

If all three are going susanoo he would have 2 perfect susanoo to contend with plus Totsuka blade. Safe sensing can only get you so far, and Hashirama isn't fast enough to put meneuver all 3. He hasn't shown speed feats to suggest he can.

evade what? they're 100 meters away, and everything you brought up is visual based. By the time they pull out susanoo he has SS summoned.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Shinsuusenju only took one hand sign.

I doubt tsukuyomi is doing anything to Hashi but he can fight with his eyes closed anyway.

Hashi can block line of sight with mokuton to deal with amaterasu and anything Madara throws at him can easily be countered like ps slashes get caught by ss hands and anything else Madara uses isn't doing anything to ss.

It's still a hand sign and it still has to be summoned in the first place, my point being he's not going to have time for that, especially if both sides have full intel.

If Totsuka blade can seal a Hydra snake then going off of what we've seen alone, wouldn't stabbing it also seal away the Buddha? It IS a summoning.

You don't get it, let's say he does end up using mokuton to block line of sight, he has 2 other people to deal with, one of which is near enough his level to begin with. Closing his eyes only screws him over more because of genjutsu like dusk crow + no one in the series has been dumb enough to close their eyes while fighting an opponent of that calibre I.e. kabuto , again, sage sensing isn't perfect and even if he is to sense certain moves he's not fast enough to evade EVERYTHING all 3 lash out at him.

 

[TheTailedSage]

You know what guys, that distance is what ****s them but I can't go into s full debate on my phone. I'll give you this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obviously Hashirama wins. Base Hashirama is already on par w/ Madara in speed and Madara is fast enough to pressure SM Naruto. SM just amplifies that. So in no way, shape or form will they be overwhelming him with their speed or whatever regardless of them starting from 10m away or 100m away.

Second of all Hashirama's techniques are wide scaled even outside of his large constructs and they all only require a single hand sign, including SS. Outside of PS Hashirama's base techniques are enough to pressure the Uchiha and give him the field advantage. So even if he weren't fast enough to create distance between him and the opposition a single clap of the hands and any jutsu he chooses creates the necessary distance.

Finally SS took on PS Kurama, which is >> Madara's PS>>Sasuke's PS>>>Itachi's Susanoo.

Mokujin, Mokuryu and SM enhanced Mokuton like Jukai Kotan and Hotei molest these 3 until PS is used by Sasuke and Madara, then SS comes out and turns these 3 into blood splats on the ground. Hashirama mid-high diff at the very worst.

 

[The Messiah]

It's still a hand sign and it still has to be summoned in the first place, my point being he's not going to have time for that, especially if both sides have full intel.

It doesn't take much time for him to summon ss and the distance is 100 meters so they aren't getting to him before he summons it.

If Totsuka blade can seal a Hydra snake then going off of what we've seen alone, wouldn't stabbing it also seal away the Buddha? It IS a summoning

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Totsuka isn't reaching Hashi from 100 meters.

You don't get it, let's say he does end up using mokuton to block line of sight, he has 2 other people to deal with, one of which is near enough his level to begin with.

EMS Madara with the kyuubi is near Hashirama's level. Without it he is no where near Hashirama.

Closing his eyes only screws him over more because of genjutsu like dusk crow + no one in the series has been dumb enough to close their eyes while fighting an opponent of that calibre I.e. kabuto , again, sage sensing isn't perfect and even if he is to sense certain moves he's not fast enough to evade EVERYTHING all 3 lash out at him.

Genjutsu of that level isn't doing anything to Hashirama. He doesn't have to evade anything since this fight will never become a cqc fight.

 

[The Messiah]

Obviously Hashirama wins. Base Hashirama is already on par w/ Madara in speed and Madara is fast enough to pressure SM Naruto. SM just amplifies that. So in no way, shape or form will they be overwhelming him with their speed or whatever regardless of them starting from 10m away or 100m away.

Second of all Hashirama's techniques are wide scaled even outside of his large constructs and they all only require a single hand sign, including SS. Outside of PS Hashirama's base techniques are enough to pressure the Uchiha and give him the field advantage. So even if he weren't fast enough to create distance between him and the opposition a single clap of the hands and any jutsu he chooses creates the necessary distance.

Finally SS took on PS Kurama, which is >> Madara's PS>>Sasuke's PS>>>Itachi's Susanoo.

Mokujin, Mokuryu and SM enhanced Mokuton like Jukai Kotan and Hotei molest these 3 until PS is used by Sasuke and Madara, then SS comes out and turns these 3 into blood splats on the ground. Hashirama mid-high diff at the very worst.

How did you come to that conclusion? Hashirama stomps these guys.

 

[KidGamer65]

How did you come to that conclusion? Hashirama stomps these guys.

Not really. The fact he'll be pushed to use SS in the first place means it's not a stomp unless he starts off w/ SS right from the start. Even then it's not a stomp since it'll take effort to get through 2 PS and kill Madara, Sasuke and Itachi. So realistically it's mid diff.

 

[The Messiah]

Not really. The fact he'll be pushed to use SS in the first place means it's not a stomp unless he starts off w/ SS right from the start. Even then it's not a stomp since it'll take effort to get through 2 PS and kill Madara, Sasuke and Itachi. So realistically it's mid diff.

FTW negs Itachi, Sasuke's gets obliterated by chojo kebetsu, and Madara's ps was already destroyed to the point where he couldn't keep it up and he probably didn't take as much damage as he could've since bijuu damas destroyed quite a few of the fist.