Break down of Hashirama in relation to Uchiha

[Darth AniCetuS]

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^^Sasuke supressing Kyuubi with 3T^^

lol i just posted the manga scans of of actual manga information concerning uchiha ability to manipulate the Kyuubi yet you still refuse to believe it. Manga states Normal sharingan/Hashi cells OR MS so if you choose to believe otherwise thats on you but controlling Kyuubi for an uchiha doesn't mean they are good at genjutsu

The scan above is not controlling the kyubi lol. A free kyubi would've tore 3T Sasuke into pieces
And the other scan defines the kyubi as an unstable force which definitely isn't the case lol. The information on the tablet is BZ's handy work. You can't take all of it as legit.

 

[ImmortalRegis]

Wtf is this shit

 

[Mori Jin]

Madara was the only uchiha who controlled Kurama purely using his MS, Obito's MS was enhanced with Hashi DNA and Sasuke never controlled Kurama using MS.
Contolling Kurama using genjutsu is no small feat and the fact that MS or Hashi DNA enhanced Sharingan is needed further strengthens that fact. And we're talking about EMS Madara here whose genjutsu would naturally be even more stronger than MS genjutsu.

Chakra-Suppressing Seal does the exact same thing in suppressing Kurama's chakra and influence.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Chakra-Suppressing Seal does the exact same thing in suppressing Kurama's chakra and influence.

You mean Hashirama's ability? Then yes.

 

[Mori Jin]

You mean Hashirama's ability? Then yes.

That and what Sasuke did to the leakage of bijuu chakra.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

That and what Sasuke did to the leakage of bijuu chakra.

What Sasuke did though was on a much smaller scale to an already sealed Kurama's chakra. You don't expect he could've done the same to a free Kurama.

 

[Mori Jin]

What Sasuke did though was on a much smaller scale to an already sealed Kurama's chakra. You don't expect he could've done the same to a free Kurama.

No not at all, what I'm saying is suppression tag would have worked in that scenario as well.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

No not at all, what I'm saying is suppression tag would have worked in that scenario as well.

Agreed.

 

[SenseiSama]

Bringer of Darkness counters any Genjutsu you would be helpless once caught. Bye Bye uchiha who rely on their eyes too much.

Except Sharingan sees through every genjutsu that isn't Sharingan.

 

[SenseiSama]

Chakra-Suppressing Seal does the exact same thing in suppressing Kurama's chakra and influence.

Yes it does, both of their feats was meant to prove that Ashura and Indra have equal ability in controlling the bijuu

 

[Mori Jin]

Except Sharingan sees through every genjutsu that isn't Sharingan.

No exceptions were listed for this technique, other then it saying it effected the eyes of the opponent.

 

[SenseiSama]

No exceptions were listed for this technique, other then it saying it effected the eyes of the opponent.

Don't need for it to be mentioned manga repeatedly states Sharingan sees through all genjutsu, only a Sharingan user can beat them at illusions

 

[Mori Jin]

Don't need for it to be mentioned manga repeatedly states Sharingan sees through all genjutsu, only a Sharingan user can beat them at illusions

Depends on the user of the eye, The eye is a tool and the user has to actually break the genjutsu like everyone else.

 

[SenseiSama]

Depends on the user of the eye, The eye is a tool and the user has to actually break the genjutsu like everyone else.

True true, but Hashi's genjutsu wouldn't work on someone with Indra's eye power

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Except Sharingan sees through every genjutsu that isn't Sharingan.

Sees through every visual genjutsu would be more appropriate again depending upon who's sharingan it is.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Nope, remember Controlling the Kyuubi is a natural ability given for acquiring the MS. Based on feats its as simple as Naruto turning the Seal Key to unlock/supress Kyuubi

this is fanfic

 

[Mori Jin]

True true, but Hashi's genjutsu wouldn't work on someone with Indra's eye power

Only 2 people have that and he's never had any trouble defeating any Uchiha before, with or without special eye power.

 

[SenseiSama]

Only 2 people have that and he's never had any trouble defeating any Uchiha before, with or without special eye power.

Yeah but others have had MS, I don't think any non-Uchiha can overpower a Mangekyo in illusion

 

[Mori Jin]

Yeah but others have had MS, I don't think any non-Uchiha can overpower a Mangekyo in illusion

That's fanfiction and there's no feats from these "others" so let's stick to canon

 

[SenseiSama]

That's fanfiction and there's no feats from these "others" so let's stick to canon

Obito, Shisui, Itachi, Izuna and eventually Sarada


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