Byakagan bends space/time = Fastest tracking eye

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Where is it said that the Byakugan can follow high-speed movements? I'm pretty sure Neji was simply looking at Lee's chakra, not his speed, only someone faster than Lee or just as fast (Guy) could possibly keep up with Lee's speed. If Sasuke's 2T Sharingan couldn't see through Naruto with Kyuubi's chakra influencing him, then I doubt Neji would have done better.
how would he be able to see lee's chakra if he's moving too fast?
 

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Stop ignoring this moment, and you may stop saying this.
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Nah, he followed perfectly. Never once lost sight of Naruto. Reacting is another thing.
You post this every time and it prove nothing lol quit playing.

the moment that Lee opened the 4th gate the moment he started attacking with insane speed
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and IDK if Neji activated his Byakugan after that or not. it was only shown that Neji activated his Byakugan after that panel
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but remember that Neji didn't activate his Byakugan when Lee was standing opening the 3rd Gate but he activated his Byakugan when Lee was moving at insane speed. and it would also make sense if he wanted to check his chakra flow, but how would he be able to detect and see his Chakra clearly when he was moving at insane speed if he couldn't follow up his speed?

and can you tell me when Neji couldn't react to Naruto?
That's what i was trying to say. We don't know when he used Byakugan. But when Lee opened his 3rd gate that's when Neji took notice. Now he could have used it after that like once Lee took it to the next step tho never made clear. But we can assume since when he had it on they never showed him activating it so it was either during opening the 4th or when he was finish opening the 3rd.

In the manga iirc he could read his movements due to the near 360 vision but he couldn't react....at least from how he usually does Even when Naruto took it to CQC he couldn't react till the last minute and used an incomplete rotation.

Late reply lol was playing a Pokemon hack.
 

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You post this every time and it prove nothing lol quit playing.
Of course someone like you, who still denies Hinata's Rikudo Chakra giving her power ups when The Last and Kishimoto himself say otherwise, would be so dense as to off this off as "proving nothing". Let me break it down for you.

We see when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki, The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.

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Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail.

And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And before you say it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. Heck, the page below even shows Sakura being among the CLOSEST to the Juubi, as she is shown standing on Katsuyu along with Sai, meaning it has nothing to do with distance or obscured vision, but simply Hinata's eyes being superior to Sakura's.

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From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.

Byakugan surpasses Sakura’s eyes, Sakura herself being able to react to Kaguya’s arm from a distance. That shows how powerful the Byakugan’s ability of slow motion vision/enhanced reflexes is.
 
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Of course someone like you, who still denies Hinata's Rikudo Chakra giving her power ups when The Last and Kishimoto himself say otherwise, would be so dense as to off this off as "proving nothing". Let me break it down for you.

We see when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki, The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.

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Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail.

And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And before you say it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. Heck, the page below even shows Sakura being among the CLOSEST to the Juubi, as she is shown standing on Katsuyu along with Sai, meaning it has nothing to do with distance or obscured vision, but simply Hinata's eyes being superior to Sakura's.

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From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.

Byakugan surpasses Sakura’s eyes, Sakura herself being able to react to Kaguya’s arm from a distance. That shows how powerful the Byakugan’s ability of slow motion vision/enhanced reflexes is.
I don't know, maybe there were so many panels because it was focusing on showing us the sealing and not wanking to Byakugan abilities that don't exist. Byakugan doesn't have precognition, so suck it up.
 

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This retard is really out here arguing that Sakura didn't see because she was too slow to see it even though anyone with half a brain knows that she was simply too far to see anything besides the Juubi disappearing while Hinata could see it being absorbed INTO Obito because of her Byakugan's enhanced field of vision.

Like I said, it's hard to believe people this stupid can exist.
She is literally the closest to the jubi than anyone else with nothing blocking her view
 

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She is literally the closest to the jubi than anyone else with nothing blocking her view
And how does that translate to her being able to see well enough to see that Obito absorbed it? Hmm?

I can only pray that you are trolling and already know all this because this is just a new low for you if serious.
 

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I don't know, maybe there were so many panels because it was focusing on showing us the sealing and not wanking to Byakugan abilities that don't exist. Byakugan doesn't have precognition, so suck it up.
given how quickly it disappeared. She might have a point. But you are right its not precognitionition.
 

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What does obito have to do with anything?
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-Sakura and co saw Juubi vanish into thin air.
-Hinata and Hiashi saw Juubi be absorbed into Obito.
-Sakura and co did not see that because they can't see far enough to see that Obito absorbed the Juubi.
-Hinata and Hiashi did because they can see far enough to see where the Juubi was going.

Speed literally has nothing to do with anything here.
 

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-Sakura and co saw Juubi vanish into thin air.
-Hinata and Hiashi saw Juubi be absorbed into Obito.

-Sakura and co did not see that because they can't see far enough to see that Obito absorbed the Juubi.
-Hinata and Hiashi did because they can see far enough to see where the Juubi was going.

Speed literally has nothing to do with anything here.
if sakura only saw it vanish then it goes to show how quickly it was absorbed, that fact is independent of her inability to see obito.
 

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if sakura only saw it vanish then it goes to show how quickly it was absorbed, that fact is independent of her inability to see obito.
Obviously she didn't see it literally "vanish into thin air", but all they saw was it disappear. Nothing about that dialogue allows anyone to bring speed into the matter.
 

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Obviously she didn't see it literally "vanish into thin air", but all they saw was it disappear. Nothing about that dialogue allows anyone to bring speed into the matter.
Semantics?

The bold and the underline is roughly the same. Also not to double back but if the rando could see the 4th then it is also plausible that sakura could see obito, she is after all the closest.

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Again given the speed in which it happened. She has a point.

A better example is neji turning on his byakugan when lee went 5th gate. If he couldn't see him before turning it on, then turning it on would offer no additional sight. Is it precognition? no but does it offer some level of tracking ? yes.

Last post. This isn't my fight, just helping illustrate her point.
 
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Of course someone like you, who still denies Hinata's Rikudo Chakra giving her power ups when The Last and Kishimoto himself say otherwise, would be so dense as to off this off as "proving nothing". Let me break it down for you.

We see when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki, The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.

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Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail.

And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And before you say it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. Heck, the page below even shows Sakura being among the CLOSEST to the Juubi, as she is shown standing on Katsuyu along with Sai, meaning it has nothing to do with distance or obscured vision, but simply Hinata's eyes being superior to Sakura's.

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From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.

Byakugan surpasses Sakura’s eyes, Sakura herself being able to react to Kaguya’s arm from a distance. That shows how powerful the Byakugan’s ability of slow motion vision/enhanced reflexes is.

:lmao: This is why i don't really debate with you anymore. This doesn't even make sense. :lol literally soloed yourself also Hinata and Sakura was in The same spot and this is how far away Sakura was. No ish she wasn't able to see what Obito did to the Juubi. Hinata knew because of her Byakugan can see from a far. Not because of some b.s. slow motion that you seem to think they have.


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Semantics?

The bold and the underline is roughly the same. Also not to double back but if the rando could see the 4th then it is also plausible that sakura could see obito, she is after all the closest.

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Again given the speed in which it happened. She has a point.

A better example is neji turning on his byakugan when lee went 5th gate. If he couldn't see him before turning it on, then turning it on would offer no additional sight. Is it precognition? no but does it offer some level of tracking ? yes.

Last post. This isn't my fight, just helping illustrate her point.
No, not really. Vanishing into thin air gives the impression that it was there one moment and disappeared as if it was teleported away. The other simply means that it disappeared, however it may have done so. Not semantics. Anyway:

The random shinobi example doesn't help you because nothing even shows that the two distances are the same. Not to mention Obito was laying on top of the Juubi when it happened while Minato was kneeling/standing on the ground with nothing else but the barrier and the landscape around him.

The speed at which it happened is something you can't gauge nor is it relevant because the speed isn't even hinted at being why Sakura or the others didn't know what happened.

And I already know that the Byakugan lets you follow movements or react faster to some extent, I already said that in my first post. That Sakura example is just asinine and makes no sense whether it's to prove Hinata>>Sakura in speed or Byakugan being able to track high speeds.
 
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I doubt the Byakugan tracks anything. It's solely the reflexes of the user that determines whether they dodge something or not.

Hinata didn't see things in slo-motion, she just saw things up front with her ranged vision. She saw Obito literally absorb the ten-tails, while Sakura had no idea of what was happening due to her distance. Sorry lady, but you're full of nonsense.
 

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:lmao: The theory seems far fetched but LMFAO at the people in here who are desperate to make sure Byakugan isn't deemed anything special. It's not a "stupid" theory to suggest that Hinata saw things in slow motion but it's not stupid to believe Hinata just happened to be the one who saw it up close. BOTH OF THEM MAKE SENSE.

If you're going to debate other people at least acknowledge their points instead of trying to deflect.
 

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:lmao: The theory seems far fetched but LMFAO at the people in here who are desperate to make sure Byakugan isn't deemed anything special. It's not a "stupid" theory to suggest that Hinata saw things in slow motion but it's not stupid to believe Hinata just happened to be the one who saw it up close. BOTH OF THEM MAKE SENSE.

If you're going to debate other people at least acknowledge their points instead of trying to deflect.
This thread really shows us who the losers are in this world lol. Never been to a site where you have pretentious scholars who "Portray" intellect by demeaning other people's opinions this hard about a show that ended so long ago XD

Some of the arguments are hilarious as they prove points yet people refuse to back down hehe. Pretentious keyboard warriors. My favorite :)
 
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