Why can u just see her being taken out of anythjjng Blackbeard would be the weakest he didn't really have Haki and if he did through the two year time skip it shouldn't really be that higher then luffy's
BB by all reasoning should have had haki before the skip anyway. He knew about Haki when he first met Luffy and could gauge Luffy's Haki, he said something like "He made it this far with that haki" He's a seasoned pirate who sailed as a commander for a Yonkou, if the marines require VA's to develop Haki it would make no sense for Yonkou captains to not require the same from their commanders.
No no i cant just see her being taken out, but i mean u said with her iron skin she wins anywhere except for her castle; thats why i said that as in she's not invincible, she can be beaten (and she can beat other strong people too)
Yes he can. White beard, without heart attacks, can defeat any top tier with relatively ease, and some of them with ease if sick.
No he can't. His powers weren't affected by his age, and many top tiers were able to match him. WB isn't defeating any top tier easily, period. There is zero portrayal for it.
Why would you set yourself up like this? We're arguing about whether or not he can beat one EASILY . Go be foolish elsewhere.
No one said his power was affected by age, or illness, no one yet has shown anything as strong as whitebeards attacks still. It's his heart attacks that affect him. He slapped akainu away and called him a brat like it was no problem and then bam heart attack. And even still he showed more durability than any character seen so far besides maybe kaido. That being said, only someone of akainus level or higher is going to have a chance too beat whitebeard even with heart attacks.
Except we've seen Akainu's magma match up with Whitebeard's Quakes. We've seen Akainu and Aokiji cause destruction on the same scale as destruction as Whitebeard has.
Deflecting one attack=defeating easily? Because he never slapped away Akainu himself.
And this translates to beating top tiers easily? How? Because we've seen the general level of top tier having the power to get through his durability.
In other words, top tiers.
No there aren't.
That information is straight from the databook written by Oda. And before you get all pissy about how true it is, this is the same databook that gave us the name of all the commanders for the first time who hadn't been named during the war.
Oda has never given feats or hype to these characters to suggest that they're this far above the current top tiers. The generation gap is a myth you fanboys concocted.
Really? Because this is Sengoku after he fights Blackbeard.
**** fodder data book, I go with what I read. What I read was WB was severely messed up at his advanced age and could not move and be more nimble as he used to, if you are telling me physical fitness is not of an importance(it doesn't matter if Gura gura nomi remains constant or not) in combat then you are special...
wait:
I am not sure what you are trying to prove
LMAOOO it's handwritten by Oda, yet it's a fodder databook? Sad.
Oh, is that so? What part of the manga shows this?
Considering that Whitebeard is a tank-type fighter, where he remains in one general place and uses his Quakes as his main means, it doesn't matter that much to him. Whitebeard has never shown himself to be a mobile fighter the same way Zoro, Luffy, Doflamingo, or Sanji are. The only time he moves is when he's advancing his location. When in actual combat, he doesn't move about at all.
And this proves...what? My question never was to prove that Whitebeard and Roger were superior or the strongest. I asked where in the manga were they hyped or had feats that puts them A LEVEL BEYOND the current top tiers. There are no feats or hype that shows that Roger or Whitebeard, even in their prime, would have anything less than a high to extreme diff fight with the current top tiers of the manga.
Of course you aren't. You are trying to claim that Sengoku and Garp stood above the likes of Akainu and the other top tiers present at Marineford. Yet, Blackbeard was willing to fight him and was able to injure him all across his body and his arms. On the other hand, Blackbeard opted not to fight Shanks because he wasn't ready yet, and was terrified of Akainu to the point that he ran away.
Nah it's not sad. If you write me 2 letters and one is constant and continuous about a story and the other comes once every 3/4 years stating same stuff as the main one and sometimes different, why must I give f#cks about it?
Squado stabbed a whitebeard(Marco was shocked and remarked a healthy whitebeard would dodge that with ease) and WB tried dodging Akain & Kizaru on separate occasion instead he simply coughed blood both times.
I admit there is a possibility that Akainu etc are now > older generation but until stated WB and Roger remain as Buggy and many stated "Two of the strongest"
Not sure what sort of "advanced" age don't you understand. Garp and Sengoku = Roger and WB in age
