Public Neo-Nazi rally in Milan. Nobody gives a f anymore

[YowYan]

>talks about italia
>changes topic to muslims

Ok brate have fun talking to yourself lel

Just so You know; the rapid rise of organised neo-nazi's in Italy is due To the mass immigration drama going on there. Especially Italy is an utter mess right now because of the unwanted invaders. And we all know what culture/religion these People represent.

Point being; It's not really a sudden unrelated change of topic

 

[Narushima]

>talks about italia
>changes topic to muslims

Ok brate have fun talking to yourself lel

The point I was trying to make is that Islamic types – especially those who have a deep seated hatred of the European peoples like you judging by some of your past posts – have no credibility talking about European history.

Unlike that Islamo-fascist of yours, Erdo-GOON, and his Neo-Ottoman brand of Islamism in Anatolia (which, I emphasize, is in the Middle East and will NEVER be associated with Europe), Neo-Nazism is not even close to being of political significance in Italy or elsewhere in Europe.

'Brate.'

 

[Deadlift]

Well Northern Italy has always been plagued by political factions fighting each other.

And I'm seeing a rising number of extreme right groups manifesting these days, something big happened in Genoa some months ago if I'm not mistaken

 

[Lyke]

Right now its about the illegal activities of italians, ...
Even if the main cause are immigrants, this is about ww2 gesture which is illegal since around 1945

Thats like saying its legal and acceptable to kill the current american as native ones because they stole the continent

Btw is Narushima filosoofis aka Coen Van Diepen from Apeeldorn?

 

[Lightbringer]

The point I was trying to make is that Islamic types – especially those who have a deep seated hatred of the European peoples like you judging by some of your past posts – have no credibility talking about European history.

Unlike that Islamo-fascist of yours, Erdo-GOON, and his Neo-Ottoman brand of Islamism in Anatolia (which, I emphasize, is in the Middle East and will NEVER be associated with Europe), Neo-Nazism is not even close to being of political significance in Italy or elsewhere in Europe.

'Brate.'

So what you're saying is that we should just continue to blame everything on the Muslim community and just ignore the rise of Neo-nazism because it is in your mind, not significant?

Great solution mate!

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[Sagebee]

Oh?

[video=youtube;isRnEx4HIzQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isRnEx4HIzQ[/video]

Now I could go on and cite statistical data to the effect that Muslims as a population are far more likely to be sympathetic to Hitlerism than are Europeans but, of course, for self-victimizing conspiratorial folk such as yourself that would be a waste of effort.

Are you deflecting? What does that have to do with this thread and please site these stats

 

[Sagebee]

free speech and expression should be upheld. i may not like what they say but i'll defend their right to say it.

I think the point is there being emboldened now adays

 

[Sagebee]

Just so You know; the rapid rise of organised neo-nazi's in Italy is due To the mass immigration drama going on there. Especially Italy is an utter mess right now because of the unwanted invaders. And we all know what culture/religion these People represent.

Point being; It's not really a sudden unrelated change of topic

Wait so is your point the answer to immigration is neo nazism what's the point your making?

 

[Sagebee]

The point I was trying to make is that Islamic types – especially those who have a deep seated hatred of the European peoples like you judging by some of your past posts – have no credibility talking about European history.

Unlike that Islamo-fascist of yours, Erdo-GOON, and his Neo-Ottoman brand of Islamism in Anatolia (which, I emphasize, is in the Middle East and will NEVER be associated with Europe), Neo-Nazism is not even close to being of political significance in Italy or elsewhere in Europe.

'Brate.'

Let's say that's a true statement how does that relate to this thread

 

[Sagebee]

So what you're saying is that we should just continue to blame everything on the Muslim community and just ignore the rise of Neo-nazism because it is in your mind, not significant?

Great solution mate!

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I don't even think that's his point I think his point is Muslims are bigger Hitler sympathizers than neo nazis

 

[Lightbringer]

I don't even think that's his point I think his point is Muslims are bigger Hitler sympathizers than neo nazis

Yeah, but my question is why bring it up at all? Like you asked, how is this relevant and what is he trying to imply by switching the topic to Muslims allegedly being bigger Hitler sympathizers?

 

[Sagebee]

Yeah, but my question is why bring it up at all? Like you asked, how is this relevant and what is he trying to imply by switching the topic to Muslims allegedly being bigger Hitler sympathizers?

I would like to know the answer too even if it was the case do we excuse neo nazis I don't get his point

 

[YowYan]

Wait so is your point the answer to immigration is neo nazism what's the point your making?

Did I make it look like I'm condoning the neo-baldies? ._.

I'm just saying the far-right's rapid rise in various European countries is due to the mass immigration crisis and all the issues those immigrants bring along with them and that the fact muslims were mentioned isn't really off topic.

 

[Lightbringer]

Did I make it look like I'm condoning the neo-baldies? ._.

I'm just saying the far-right's rapid rise in various European countries is due to the mass immigration crisis and all the issues those immigrants bring along with them and that the fact muslims were mentioned isn't really off topic.

So mass immigration is the sole cause for this occurrence?

I don't deny that it is a factor, but you have to be realistic. There way more factors at play and it mirrors what's going on in the U.S.

One such example is that the people are unhappy with the current status quo, or the economy is in a poor state, and populist figures emerge and scapegoat those problems on a group of people and promise to make things better. And even though many who support these populist figures might not support them based on their racist rhetoric, the rise of these populist figures triggers an authoritarian psychology from people who would previously have not been vocally racist prior. These types of people feel like they are now justified and protected by their populist figure because they share the same rhetoric, so to them they think it has become more streamlined and accepted.

 

[Sagebee]

Did I make it look like I'm condoning the neo-baldies? ._.

I'm just saying the far-right's rapid rise in various European countries is due to the mass immigration crisis and all the issues those immigrants bring along with them and that the fact muslims were mentioned isn't really off topic.

Okay but is that a proper response

 

[Kyoto Samurai]

Try telling that to war vets. Their endgame are crimes against humanity, don't defend something which is unquestionably illegal.

how is their self expression illegal? they arent killing or hurting anyone else

 

[SSStylish]

There are very obvious reasons for the rise of "nazism" that have been stated in this very thread. I see more and more people becoming far right and the reasons are always the same. It's not just irrational hatred/racism. That's monocausal and only pretentious leftists think that way.

Acts of violence against a person because of their race, sexuality, religion etc. are stupid af though and I don't support this in any way. I just don't like this black and white vision a lot of people have about the world.

But the saluto romano shouldn't be illegal. Neither should be denying the holocaust. Every single person should be able to express themselves the way they want to as long as they don't hurt others. That's what freedom is all about.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

how is their self expression illegal? they arent killing or hurting anyone else

Ask the courts, this is an illegal event.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

This is illegal but clearly the world is entering a part of history where this cult doesn't feel they have to be afraid any longer. Terrifying.

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meme majik at its strongest.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

free speech and expression should be upheld. i may not like what they say but i'll defend their right to say it.

You're defending their ability to strengthen, and possibly take your beloved freedom of speech away from you. Although, that is a worst case scenario. They're not hurting anyone but they're idolizing someone who has for doing so. If these people do become a legitimized movement and win, it's not hard to see a future where they will hurt people. Regardless, I agree with you to some extent as it may result in a slippery slope of what thoughts are "dangerous" although this clearly is.