Hagoromo didn't share any of his chakra with Ashura

[Darth AniCetuS]

People always bring out this scan to prove that Hagoromo shared his chakra with Ashura

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They completely ignore the fact that power could mean many things and not just chakra and Hagoromo made that quite clear during his interactions with Naruto and Sasuke when he shared his powers with them.

First Hagoromo himself doesn't believe in concentrating chakra into just one person.

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Sharing chakra only with Ashura would mean just that. And someone as wise as Hagoromo wouldn't commit such a blunder.

And Hagoromo also made it quite clear that Ashura had already achieved powers that rivaled Indra's before he even entrusted everything to Ashura

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Then he mentions about making Ashura the leader of the Ninja Creed/Ninshu which was the reason that made Indra salty and thus began the conflict between the two brothers.

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Hago never ever said that he shared his chakra with Ashura even while talking about the conflict between Indra and Ashura

So Ashura had already matched Indra's strength before he was even made the head of ninshu. Now if Hagoromo who was already against concentrating all the chakra into just one person too gives his chakra to Ashura on top of that, Ashura would be too OP for Indra to deal with in the first place and Hagoromo already kind of implied that Ashura and Indra died fighting which again proves that Hagoromo didn't share any of his chakra with Ashura.
Hagoromo clearly mentioned that making Ashura the head of ninshu started the conflict without any mention of sharing any chakra with Ashura.

 

[Mellanoma]

title says: Hagoromo didn't share any of his chakra with Ashura

Hagaromo cleary says bodily chakra of Ashura made him equal to Indra because of the cooperation of others.

 

[Styles]

:wut: Then why he talk like he gave only Ashura power and tried to make up for it by this time giving power to both.

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[UnknownJin]

WTF IS THIS???? HAHAHHAAHAHAH

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ot - didnt read

 

[SenseiSama]

Power is a relative term, what Hago handed down was the power to rule over people, in other words a title. Ashura was the 'heir' to Kaguya's throne hence why up to this day you have the daughter of the Senju leader being referred to as 'Princess'. Hagoromo explained that the chakra within Ashura bloomed so OP is completely right.

 

[lndra]

The interpretation I got was that Hagoromo passed down Ninshuu and made Ashura the leader, rather than him acquiring his father's powers.

It even stated he rose to his brother's status from his own merit and the help of everyone's support. IMO

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

:wut: Then why he talk like he gave only Ashura power and tried to make up for it by this time giving power to both.

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He said entrusted everything. Where does he even say that he shared his chakra with Ashura. He even mentioned that the reason of conflict was making Ashura the leader of Ninshu again without any mention of sharing chakra. And he gave Naruto and Sasuke his chakra in order to seal/stop Madara and Kaguya. He was expecting her to appear. He had no ninshu this time and the only reason he appeared was to give chakra and shared with Indra's transmigrant as well to prevent any further conflicts.

title says: Hagoromo didn't share any of his chakra with Ashura

Hagaromo cleary says bodily chakra of Ashura made him equal to Indra because of the cooperation of others.

You should read the scan again. It clearly says he awakened the chakra through training.

 

[Styles]

He said entrusted everything. Where does he even say that he shared his chakra with Ashura. He even mentioned that the reason of conflict was making Ashura the leader of Ninshu again without any mention of sharing chakra. And he gave Naruto and Sasuke his chakra in order to seal/stop Madara and Kaguya. He was expecting her to appear. He had no ninshu this time and the only reason he appeared was to give chakra and shared with Indra's transmigrant as well to prevent any further conflicts.

Lol what? He's clearly saying this time he left Naruto and Sasuke power because of a past mistake of leaving everything to Ashura. He's literally trying to make amends with himself from past mistakes.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Lol what? He's clearly saying this time he left Naruto and Sasuke power because of a past mistake of leaving everything to Ashura. He's literally trying to make amends with himself from past mistakes.

Exactly, however in case of Ashura and Indra, there was no threat of Kaguya. He didn't need to share any of his chakra with them and again he clearly mentions the pooint f conflict between Ashura and Indra and there's not even the slightest hint there that he shared chakra with Ashura. And I've already explained Ashura would be too OP for Indra to handle in that case.

 

[Liquid Snake]

True if hago gave ashura his power he would have had the rinnegan as well he only gave his chakra to naruto and sasuke because they were fighting madara ashura and indra are direct descendants from him so their powers would be on different lvls from jump

 

[Styles]

Exactly, however in case of Ashura and Indra, there was no threat of Kaguya. He didn't need to share any of his chakra with them and again he clearly mentions the pooint f conflict between Ashura and Indra and there's not even the slightest hint there that he shared chakra with Ashura. And I've already explained Ashura would be too OP for Indra to handle in that case.

It wouldn't have to be a threat like Kaguya for him to give his power to Ashura or both. He was dying and left everything to Ashura which he said he regretted and left everything to both Naruto and Sasuke this time. He wouldn't really chakra can only get you so far unless you're saying Ashura unlocked six paths SM or whatever he used vs Indra was his own doing.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It wouldn't have to be a threat like Kaguya for him to give his power to Ashura or both. He was dying and left everything to Ashura which he said he regretted and left everything to both Naruto and Sasuke this time. He wouldn't really chakra can only get you so far unless you're saying Ashura unlocked six paths SM or whatever he used vs Indra was his own doing.

Naruto was a Ashura transmigrant and he was able to unlock RSM with half of Hago's chakra what makes you think Ashura wouldn't do the same with most of Hago's chakra given to him? And talking of entrusting everything then why didn't Hago gave his eyes to Ashura? I mean that'd really be a great asset.
You're trying to prove something that is not even hinted by Hagoromo. Just because he said power doesn't mean he shared chakra for sure and his explanation clearly proves that.

 

[SenseiSama]

title says: Hagoromo didn't share any of his chakra with Ashura

Hagaromo cleary says bodily chakra of Ashura made him equal to Indra because of the cooperation of others.

Actually it says "bodily chakra awakened within him" so you proved OP right

The interpretation I got was that Hagoromo passed down Ninshuu and made Ashura the leader, rather than him acquiring his father's powers.

It even stated he rose to his brother's status from his own merit and the help of everyone's support. IMO

This, he was just passing down the role of leadership. But in terms of actual chakra Ashura's power is his own since birth no different to Hashirama.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Nope.:bdpf:

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[Styles]

Naruto was a Ashura transmigrant and he was able to unlock RSM with half of Hago's chakra what makes you think Ashura wouldn't do the same with most of Hago's chakra given to him? And talking of entrusting everything then why didn't Hago gave his eyes to Ashura? I mean that'd really be a great asset.
You're trying to prove something that is not even hinted by Hagoromo. Just because he said power doesn't mean he shared chakra for sure and his explanation clearly proves that.

Because Ashura and Indra didn't inherit his powers. Indra inherited Hagoromo's strong chakra true but that's it. He didn't inherit no six paths power like Hagoromo/Hamura did from Kaguya. Ashura didn't inherit anything either but chakra reserves. Naruto and Sasuke got that power because Hagoromo gave it to them.
Probably because Ashura is the body? Madara awakened Hagoromo's chakra and only had Rinnegan why didn't he have six paths SM.
Because he's the eyes not body. How is it not hinted when Hagoromo blatantly said it? His explanation proves it. You can't say "giving power to only 1 son caused this" then give power to both and try to fix your past mistake

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Because Ashura and Indra didn't inherit his powers. Indra inherited Hagoromo's strong chakra true but that's it. He didn't inherit no six paths power like Hagoromo/Hamura did from Kaguya. Ashura didn't inherit anything either but chakra reserves.
Naruto and Sasuke got that power because Hagoromo gave it to them. Probably because Ashura is the body? Madara awakened Hagoromo's chakra and only had Rinnegan why didn't he have six paths SM.
Because he's the eyes not body. How is it not hinted when Hagoromo blatantly said it? His explanation proves it. You can't say "giving power to only 1 son caused this" then give power to both and try to fix your past mistake

Actually they did. Ashura inherited his bodily powers while Indra his visual powers, Hagoromo himself has confirmed that. Neither of them possesed both. Same goes for Naruto and Sasuke. They only had half the pieces of Hagoromo's chakra just like Hashirama and Madara. However when Madara stole and assimilated Hashi DNA, he was able to replicate Hagoromo's chakra and thus awakened the rinnegan. He didn't awaken RSM due to the imbalance between Hashi's chakra and his own. He had more of Indra's chakra and only a part of Ashura's chakra. Same goes for Naruto and Sasuke. While Naruto received chakra directly from Hagoromo, he had more of Ashura's bodily chakra than Indra's chakra. Sasuke too received Hashi DNA and Hagoromo chakra and awakened the rinnegan and not the RSM again due to the chakra imbalance.
It is different because Hagoromo clearly stated that he only made Ashura the leader of Ninshu. But the scan you and some others are bringing up refers to power in general and doesn't say chakra specifically.

 

[lndra]

This, he was just passing down the role of leadership. But in terms of actual chakra Ashura's power is his own since birth no different to Hashirama.

Yeah I don't get how Hagoromo passed down his power when he still had it to give to Naruto/Sasuke, but w/e.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

OP, your reading comprehension skills must be at an extreme low. Hagoromo gave not only his power to Naruto but also Sasuke. In the scan, he literally said that giving his power to one ended up creating Indra and Asura, and then he said that giving both his sons power gave the same result. He's literally saying that he gave only Asura his power the first time and that even though he gave Indra power this time, the result was the same.

I know you don't want to admit that Asura stalemated with Six Paths Chakra against a Mangekyo user, but suck it up. Hagoromo clearly says that he gave the way of Ninshuu which is a way of life, not power, to Asura and that he gave power to Asura as well. If Hagoromo meant that he gave Ninshuu to Asura, why did Sasuke get the Rinnegan when Hagormo gave Indra power too. Literally speaking, Hagoromo referred to his own chakra rather than Ninshuu. Stop using mental gymnastics.

Never once did the manga say that when you combine Indra's chakra with Ninshuu it results in the Rinnegan. You know damn well and good what Hagoromo meant.

There's literally a scan showing Asura with Truth Seeker Orbs which solidifies this argument that you're poorly refuting.

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[SenseiSama]

OP, your reading comprehension skills must be at an extreme low. Hagoromo gave not only his power to Naruto but also Sasuke. In the scan, he literally said that giving his power to one ended up creating Indra and Asura, and then he said that giving both his sons power gave the same result. He's literally saying that he gave only Asura his power the first time and that even though he gave Indra power this time, the result was the same.

I know you don't want to admit that Asura stalemated with Six Paths Chakra against a Mangekyo user, but suck it up. Hagoromo clearly says that he gave the way of Ninshuu which is a way of life, not power, to Asura and that he gave power to Asura as well. If Hagoromo meant that he gave Ninshuu to Asura, why did Sasuke get the Rinnegan when Hagormo gave Indra power too. Literally speaking, Hagoromo referred to his own chakra rather than Ninshuu. Stop using mental gymnastics.

Never once did the manga say that when you combine Indra's chakra with Ninshuu it results in the Rinnegan. You know damn well and good what Hagoromo meant.

There's literally a scan showing Asura with Truth Seeker Orbs which solidifies this argument that you're poorly refuting.

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That scan is showing that the bodily chakra that bloomed withing him is Juubi chakra, in other words he was born with Hagoromo's body and ability to produce Six Path Senjutsu. It's why his descendants have a bloodnline limit that's originally the Gedo's ability and another has Mokuton which is the Juubi's KKG.

Ashura was never a Jinchuuriki yet had a Jinchuuriki avatar which solidifies the idea he inherited a portion of the Juubi's power just like Indra's Sharingan is a portion of the Juubi's eye.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

That scan is showing that the bodily chakra that bloomed withing him is Juubi chakra, in other words he was born with Hagoromo's body and ability to produce Six Path Senjutsu. It's why his descendants have a bloodnline limit that's originally the Gedo's ability and another has Mokuton which is the Juubi's KKG.

Ashura was never a Jinchuuriki yet had a Jinchuuriki avatar which solidifies the idea he inherited a portion of the Juubi's power just like Indra's Sharingan is a portion of the Juubi's eye.

You're wrong.

The Juubi is merely Kaguya. Indra's Sharingan is a result of the chakra fruit from the tree. What Asura's bodily powers entail is simply extremely high chakra and stamina. Stop making things up to suit your arguments. The scans show that Hagoromo gave his power to Asura only the first time, and then decided to give it to Indra the second time.

If the Six Path's Senjutsu was his Kekkei Genkai, the Senju would have inherited it but they only inherited his bodily powers. You know it to be true. Stop revising it.