Sasuke vs Neji in chunin exam

[KidGamer65]

Ah now we are getting somewhere.



There is no way Sasuke Chidori can rip through raw chakra without injury to himself.

Also comparing NAruto's Kyuubi cloak to Chidori dash is silly as Kyuubi cloak gives full body protection to the user and is FAR MORE durable than Chidori.

Based on what? Cause I already have feats of it ripping through something that's at worst just as good as Neji's defense by feats. Denial with no reasoning won't get you anywhere.

The rest of this doesn't even make sense. The chakra providing protection to Naruto is irrelevant. Rotation only damages what hits it if it's strong enough to repel it in the first place. You've yet to show that it can do so to Chidori. I've support it being able to rip through Kaiten. Why are you even bringing up durability and defense? Makes zero sense. Especially the bold. Chidori is an attack. It's not supposed to be durable.

@bold Show me feats of Sasuke being capable to dodge and strike faster than Neji. To say Sasuke would beat Neji in hand to hand combat is just absurd.

Sasuke has Lee's speed and movements and Lee is faster than Neji. Those are facts so please don't even try to dispute them. The feats show it. The DB gives Lee (who is = Sasuke) a 4 while Neji only has a 3. Him being able to strike faster than Neji is irrelevant. Striking faster or striking slower doesn't translate to Sasuke being able or unable to hit him with Chidori so don't go there either.

Lmao. What is with you guys? Don't invent a point to address when you are barely addressing the ones I actually made. I never stated that Sasuke beats Neji in hand to hand.

He only gets two Chidori

Doesn't matter. He doesn't need more than 2 to defeat Sasuke.

Once again show me scans of Sasuke attacking Naruto or any one faster than Neji struct him.

Addressed.

Also you answered No to one of my questions

Yes, the only question that doesn't change the outcome of this match as Sasuke does have access to Chidori. This argument so far is me making claims and supporting them while you just make claims. Smh.

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

Bruh so let me ask all these Neji fanboys a question . Can CE Neji beat CE Gaara ? This question alone defeats the whole argument seeing that Neji cant beat Gaara yet Sasuke cooked w him the ENTIRE battle. How is Neji destroying Gaara's sand shield or even getting close to him when gaara's defense can also attack too ? Face it CE Sasuke > CE Gaara > CE Neji

 

[Made in Heaven]

It does more damage on the one approaching if it can deflect it in the first place. This is not a hard concept to understand. If Madara attacked Neji w/ PS would you argue that because it deflects chakra Madara will take more damage? No. You won't, because then we'll look at PS's feats and see that it rapes Rotation just like any unbiased soul has look at Chidori's feats to come to the conclusion that it pierces Rotation.

Comparing PS to literally the weakest form of Chidori. Also piercing physical defense =/= piercing Chakra defense.

Irrelevant. Is that evidence that Rotation is a stronger defense? No. Allow me to use this bad logic:

"Susanoo just blocks. Rotation blocks, repels and damages. It must be stronger".

Haha. no. Neji's blocks, and if it can block then it repels and damages. You can't show that it can block so there is no discussing about it repelling and damaging Sasuke.

Again, giving an over the top comparison when Neji and Gaara's defenses are fairly close in defensive capabilities. Their properties are way different.

Sasuke stabbed Gaara's sand, and he pierced it. This logic would not work on Rotation. Gaara's sand shield uses a limited amount of sand to protect him, so when Sasuke pierces it, the sand that falls away is gone for good. Same isn't the case for Rotation, which has the user CONSTANTLY emit Chakra while spinning, meaning even if Sasuke's Chidori could magically pierce through a Chakra-based defense, which it has never shown to do (while Neji has shown to blow away Bijuu Chakra) more Chakra would near-instantly retake the place of any Chakra Sasuke would have pierced through, and the repelling nature of the spin would knock Sasuke away while damaging his arm. Sasuke's arms was inside Gaara's shield after piercing it. Let him try that with Rotation and more Chakra will replace the supposed Chakra he'd have pierced through, knocking him away and damaging his arm. Not to mention how insignificant the damage done to Gaara even was.

 

[Mellanoma]

Based on what? Cause I already have feats of it ripping through something that's at worst just as good as Neji's defense by feats. Denial with no reasoning won't get you anywhere.

Show me. Btw comparing Gaara's sand to Rotation is not a great argument simply because of the nature wheel

Lightning > Earth

The rest of this doesn't even make sense. The chakra providing protection to Naruto is irrelevant. Rotation only damages what hits it if it's strong enough to repel it in the first place. You've yet to show that it can do so to Chidori. I've support it being able to rip through Kaiten. Why are you even bringing up durability and defense? Makes zero sense. Especially the bold. Chidori is an attack. It's not supposed to be durable.

I've shown you the scans and what was said in the manga. You just choose not to agree with it. Kyuubi cloak and Rotation is raw chakra colliding while also granting its users protection. Chidor grants no protection for the user and Sasuke colliding with Raw chakra would cause him great injury. Look at the last fight of the series

Sasuke has Lee's speed and movements and Lee is faster than Neji. Those are facts so please don't even try to dispute them. The feats show it. The DB gives Lee (who is = Sasuke) a 4 while Neji only has a 3. Him being able to strike faster than Neji is irrelevant. Striking faster or striking slower doesn't translate to Sasuke being able or unable to hit him with Chidori so don't go there either.

Great point. So if speed is the ultimate factor in a fight then why is Neji > Lee?
@bold That doesn't make sense at all especially since striking speed/precision is one of the major determining factor in Taijutsu, martial arts and any form of fighting is it not?

Lmao. What is with you guys? Don't invent a point to address when you are barely addressing the ones I actually made. I never stated that Sasuke beats Neji in hand to hand.

re-read what you put

Doesn't matter. He doesn't need more than 2 to defeat Sasuke.

Assume you mean't Neji. Also I still don't see Sasuke attacking Neji with a Chidori and it being successful. Gaara sat still when Sasuke attacked him with it. What other feats you have other than Gaara jumping directly at him during their second fight?

Yes, the only question that doesn't change the outcome of this match as Sasuke does have access to Chidori. This argument so far is me making claims and supporting them while you just make claims. Smh.

@bold where are your scans? I've shown scans and not just opinion.

Bruh so let me ask all these Neji fanboys a question . Can CE Neji beat CE Gaara ? This question alone defeats the whole argument seeing that Neji cant beat Gaara yet Sasuke cooked w him the ENTIRE battle. How is Neji destroying Gaara's sand shield or even getting close to him when gaara's defense can also attack too ? Face it CE Sasuke > CE Gaara > CE Neji

Nope because it is a bad Matchup for Neji.

Comparing PS to literally the weakest form of Chidori. Also piercing physical defense =/= piercing Chakra defense.



Again, giving an over the top comparison when Neji and Gaara's defenses are fairly close in defensive capabilities. Their properties are way different.

Sasuke stabbed Gaara's sand, and he pierced it. This logic would not work on Rotation. Gaara's sand shield uses a limited amount of sand to protect him, so when Sasuke pierces it, the sand that falls away is gone for good. Same isn't the case for Rotation, which has the user CONSTANTLY emit Chakra while spinning, meaning even if Sasuke's Chidori could magically pierce through a Chakra-based defense, which it has never shown to do (while Neji has shown to blow away Bijuu Chakra) more Chakra would near-instantly retake the place of any Chakra Sasuke would have pierced through, and the repelling nature of the spin would knock Sasuke away while damaging his arm. Sasuke's arms was inside Gaara's shield after piercing it. Let him try that with Rotation and more Chakra will replace the supposed Chakra he'd have pierced through, knocking him away and damaging his arm. Not to mention how insignificant the damage done to Gaara even was.

Its due to Lightning > Earth on the nature wheel. Neji's defense is stronger than Gaara's Sand when up against Lightning based jutsu

 

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Lol chidori can pierce raiton armour which is chakra defence

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

I dont even know where this Neji wank came from. Neji is not beating someone who has Lee's speed with the Sharingan. And STOP SAYING THAT Neji's kaiten can block and deflect everything, it couldnt even stop Naruto's punch so stop the nonsense.
Chidori > Rotation

 

[Mellanoma]

I dont even know where this Neji wank came from. Neji is not beating someone who has Lee's speed with the Sharingan. And STOP SAYING THAT Neji's kaiten can block and deflect everything, it couldnt even stop Naruto's punch so stop the nonsense.
Chidori > Rotation

It did stop Naruto's Kyuubi cloak punch and blew him back.

 

[BLAZE]

Then why can't Lee without gates beat Neji?

Becoz he has nothing to beat neji unlike sasuke who has chidori

Considering there are no feats showing Neji > Lee we must go off what is presented in the manga.

Manga presented us with Lee>neji in speed along with DB and neji is superior overall since Lee cannot beat him without secondary lotus
Sasuke has chidori unlike Lee

Sasuke's striking speed is </= base lee who clearly stated Neji was superior to him.

Its equal with sharingan giving sasuke edge over him
Lmao Lee NVR said neji>him in speed dunno where are u getting this from

While chidori is a straight forward dash to kill Sasuke has never shown the ability to consistently dodge high speed consecutive strikes especially ones at the speed indicated with Neji's attacks. Show me feats of this being untrue then I will disagree

And neji has never shown to strike consecutively against someone with sasuke lvl speed so first thing you need to do is prove he can do it which you can't and thats the reason you are beating around the book with mangascans that you are misquoting

Chidori leaves you vulnerable to counter attack and is a straight forward lunging attack.

Where did this fiction come out from.sasuke has sharingan

Yes Sasuke's eyes help accommodate for this drawback but I believe Neji is capable of not only dodging chidori but also countering it with Juken.

Then you need to provide feat to support which you haven't done

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Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge or counter Chidori

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

Still waiting a solid No with proof for both my questions. If you can't provide it then Neji takes this fight

Do you believe repeatedly spamming same thing that make zero sense and has nothing to do with manga helps your point then I can't help

 

[Zexion~]

Since when is Gaara's sand Doton? Wasn't it stated he uses fuuton chakra? Which by law should have stopped Chidori?

 

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Since when is Gaara's sand Doton? Wasn't it stated he uses fuuton chakra? Which by law should have stopped Chidori?

Its most likely magnet style since when naruto used the sealing jutsu via shukaku it was magnet style

 

[KidGamer65]

Show me. Btw comparing Gaara's sand to Rotation is not a great argument simply because of the nature wheel

Lightning > Earth

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-Reactions when Gaara's Sand was pierced.

Then there are the various scans I can bring of Gaara's defense being hyped as the ultimate defense. What are Rotation's best feats? Oh wait, being busted through by Naruto's punch. What's it's best hype? Being comparable to Gaara's defense but better in the sense that it does more than block? :lol Meanwhile instead of supporting why Chidori is blocked you deflect the burden of proof. But I can't blame you because there is nothing in this Manga that puts Rotation so far above Gaara's Sand that it can block what Gaara's Sand completely and utterly failed to do.

Gonna assume you are joking with the nature wheel bit since Gaara's Sand is not Doton. :lol

I've shown you the scans and what was said in the manga. You just choose not to agree with it. Kyuubi cloak and Rotation is raw chakra colliding while also granting its users protection. Chidor grants no protection for the user and Sasuke colliding with Raw chakra would cause him great injury. Look at the last fight of the series

You posted scans, told me what happened in the scans but of course you failed to explain how these scans help your argument. I've already explained why your durability concept is irrelevant but of course you are ignoring it. Admitting you are wrong won't kill you son. Rotation works by blocking, then repelling, then damaging. If rotation is not strong enough to block, it will not move on to repelling thus it will not damage anything or anyone.

If PS attacked Rotation would you argue that it bounces back all the damage to the Susanoo because "that's how the jutsu works"? No, you'd measure Susanoo's power and see that it's beyond what Rotation can handle. Then you'd come to the conclusion that Rotation is just ripped right through. Naruto and Sasuke's clash was an equal clash of equal attacks thus they both took damage. If Sasuke or Naruto's attack was stronger do you think they both would've lost their arms? No, obviously not. One would rip through the other.

Support the bold or don't respond or concede. That simple.

Great point. So if speed is the ultimate factor in a fight then why is Neji > Lee?
@bold That doesn't make sense at all especially since striking speed/precision is one of the major determining factor in Taijutsu, martial arts and any form of fighting is it not?

Who told you that speed is the ultimate factor? It's a factor combined with other factors that leads to Sasuke's victory.

@underlined: This isn't Taijutsu. That matters in a Taijutsu fight, but even in a Taijutsu fight that is obviously not the end all be all when it comes to determining who wins. This isn't even Taijutsu so the importance of striking speed decreases severely. If Neji being able to strike fast made him as invincible as you people keep claiming then Naruto wouldn't have pushed him as far as he did. Then Tsunade wouldn't destroy Neji in close combat. But Naruto did and Tsunade does.

Assume you mean't Neji. Also I still don't see Sasuke attacking Neji with a Chidori and it being successful. Gaara sat still when Sasuke attacked him with it. What other feats you have other than Gaara jumping directly at him during their second fight?

You don't see because you aren't addressing anything being said on the matter. You are ignoring it.

-Did Naruto force Neji into an incomplete Rotation? Yes or no?

Yes.

-Is Sasuke/Lee faster or at least as fast or in the same league as Naruto using Kurama's power? Yes or no?

Yes.

Thus Sasuke can easily do the same exact thing Naruto did. Only difference is Chidori rips through and kills him and I don't want to see you argue that incomplete Rotation blocks Chidori.

@bold where are your scans? I've shown scans and not just opinion.

You posted scans but of course you failed to use them in your argument. I didn't post scans but everything I said is what has actually occurred in the Manga and please don't try to act like it isn't. If you are going to act like this do us both a favor and just stop arguing.

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge Chidori?

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

Yes Lee admits that he needs that because 5th gate gives the ability to continuously speed blitz Neji before he even moves. Notice how Lee says that HE needs it because all he knows is taijutsu . Sasuke doesnt need that high level of speed and physical strength if he can just sit back and anticipate every move of Neji's, it saves him the time and energy.

Sasuke is slower than Lee's base speed ? But yet Gai and Lee both said that he has the same speed as Lee without weights , it even says it right there in the scan guy . Lee then goes on and says Sasuke has one advantage over him and that is his Sharingan . Yes it takes alot of stamina which Sasuke has alot of . Sasuke was able to keep up that same speed for the rest of the match and even after the match when he faced an even stronger and faster version of Gaara . Smh this Hyuuga wank has got to stop

No Neji cant dodge his Chidori especially since he has the Sharingan, if he moves, Sasuke will be able to see it and strike to the spot where is going to be at next hence the reason why Kakashi stated that the sharingan goes well w Chidori.

Idk , i doubt that Sasuke can beat him w.out Chidori . Neji's Kaiten would be too much for him then seeing that Sasuke doesnt have anything to get past his kaiten, unless he releases the CM

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

It did stop Naruto's Kyuubi cloak punch and blew him back.

Neji got damage as well so if Naruto's punch could go in then wouldnt Chidori be able to get in as well

 

[KidGamer65]

Comparing PS to literally the weakest form of Chidori. Also piercing physical defense =/= piercing Chakra defense.

Nope. No one is comparing PS to Chidori. That's you trying to deflect from the point of the example, that ASSESSMENT OF STRENGTH is how we determine what blocks what. Not the function of the jutsu. If we determined what blocked what based on the function of the jutsu then I could say Rotation blocks anything just because it repels chakra.

Again, giving an over the top comparison when Neji and Gaara's defenses are fairly close in defensive capabilities. Their properties are way different.

No, again that's you deflecting away from the point of the example either because you don't want to agree or because you keep failing to see what is being said. We determine what is a better defense based on what they can block, not based on function. Rotation being able to do 2 extra things besides block doesn't make it any more durable than something that can't. That is point. Their properties being different doesn't matter.

Sasuke stabbed Gaara's sand, and he pierced it. This logic would not work on Rotation. Gaara's sand shield uses a limited amount of sand to protect him, so when Sasuke pierces it, the sand that falls away is gone for good. Same isn't the case for Rotation, which has the user CONSTANTLY emit Chakra while spinning, meaning even if Sasuke's Chidori could magically pierce through a Chakra-based defense, which it has never shown to do (while Neji has shown to blow away Bijuu Chakra) more Chakra would near-instantly retake the place of any Chakra Sasuke would have pierced through, and the repelling nature of the spin would knock Sasuke away while damaging his arm. Sasuke's arms was inside Gaara's shield after piercing it. Let him try that with Rotation and more Chakra will replace the supposed Chakra he'd have pierced through, knocking him away and damaging his arm. Not to mention how insignificant the damage done to Gaara even was.

So now you've moved on to literally making up stuff about the jutsu? The user expels a shroud of chakra and then spins at high speed causing that chakra to become a shield. If something rips through that chakra and hits Neji he doesn't rotate. He stops. This "new chakra instantly replaces the old chakra" is nonsense you are fabricating and even if it were true it wouldn't matter because that chakra can't do anything in terms of defense is Neji isn't rotating. If wheel is spinning and a metal stick is stuck through it then it stops spinning.

And I'm just going to pretend you are joking with the bold. Defense is defense. It being chakra based doesn't give it a magical immunity to Chidori. This entire paragraph boils down to "Chidori doesn't break through because Kaiten spins". Smh.

Also gonna pretend that you didn't just compare Gaara undergoing a Jinchuuriki transformation to Neji. :lol Sasuke pierced into the shell without knowing where he was aiming. That is not an issue w/ Rotation because Neji will always be at the center of the technique, thus if he gets attacked he will be hit either in the chest or the gut. Not to mention Sasuke had to break away because the sand is still capable of damaging him. Once he gets Neji it's over.

Not to mention Gaara's shell is larger than Rotation, thus more room for error and more room to miss.

 

[Mellanoma]

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-Reactions when Gaara's Sand was pierced.

Then there are the various scans I can bring of Gaara's defense being hyped as the ultimate defense. What are Rotation's best feats? Oh wait, being busted through by Naruto's punch. What's it's best hype? Being comparable to Gaara's defense but better in the sense that it does more than block? :lol Meanwhile instead of supporting why Chidori is blocked you deflect the burden of proof. But I can't blame you because there is nothing in this Manga that puts Rotation so far above Gaara's Sand that it can block what Gaara's Sand completely and utterly failed to do.

Gonna assume you are joking with the nature wheel bit since Gaara's Sand is not Doton. :lol




You posted scans, told me what happened in the scans but of course you failed to explain how these scans help your argument. I've already explained why your durability concept is irrelevant but of course you are ignoring it. Admitting you are wrong won't kill you son. Rotation works by blocking, then repelling, then damaging. If rotation is not strong enough to block, it will not move on to repelling thus it will not damage anything or anyone.

If PS attacked Rotation would you argue that it bounces back all the damage to the Susanoo because "that's how the jutsu works"? No, you'd measure Susanoo's power and see that it's beyond what Rotation can handle. Then you'd come to the conclusion that Rotation is just ripped right through. Naruto and Sasuke's clash was an equal clash of equal attacks thus they both took damage. If Sasuke or Naruto's attack was stronger do you think they both would've lost their arms? No, obviously not. One would rip through the other.

Support the bold or don't respond or concede. That simple.


Who told you that speed is the ultimate factor? It's a factor combined with other factors that leads to Sasuke's victory.

@underlined: This isn't Taijutsu. That matters in a Taijutsu fight, but even in a Taijutsu fight that is obviously not the end all be all when it comes to determining who wins. This isn't even Taijutsu so the importance of striking speed decreases severely. If Neji being able to strike fast made him as invincible as you people keep claiming then Naruto wouldn't have pushed him as far as he did. Then Tsunade wouldn't destroy Neji in close combat. But Naruto did and Tsunade does.


You don't see because you aren't addressing anything being said on the matter. You are ignoring it.

-Did Naruto force Neji into an incomplete Rotation? Yes or no?

Yes.

-Is Sasuke/Lee faster or at least as fast or in the same league as Naruto using Kurama's power? Yes or no?

Yes.

Thus Sasuke can easily do the same exact thing Naruto did. Only difference is Chidori rips through and kills him and I don't want to see you argue that incomplete Rotation blocks Chidori.


You posted scans but of course you failed to use them in your argument. I didn't post scans but everything I said is what has actually occurred in the Manga and please don't try to act like it isn't. If you are going to act like this do us both a favor and just stop arguing.

Funny... first you guys ask for feats due to what is presented in the manga. I show everything about Neji which you consider isn't enough proof as it is based on hear-say then it flips 180 degrees to now it is hear say. Asking me to present full manga evidence up until the Chuunin exam for a background character is near impossible.

This is going full circle.

I agree to disagree with you all

Why?

Because there is no proof Sasuke beat Neji
There is no proof Neji can beat Sasuke.

Show me manga scans then I will change my mind since this is the way we are playing it

 

[KidGamer65]

Funny... first you guys ask for feats due to what is presented in the manga. I show everything about Neji which you consider isn't enough proof as it is based on hear-say then it flips 180 degrees to now it is hear say. Asking me to present full manga evidence up until the Chuunin exam for a background character is near impossible.

This is going full circle.

I agree to disagree with you all

Why?

Because there is no proof Sasuke beat Neji
There is no proof Neji can beat Sasuke.

Show me manga scans then I will change my mind since this is the way we are playing it

I never said it wasn't enough proof. I simply asked you to apply and explain how the material that you already provided supports your case. I didn't tell you to go get more scans I told you to explain the ones you have. lmao. So cut the crap. We've properly supported Sasuke being able to defeat Neji so if you don't want to agree then by all means believe what you want. :lol Won't change the validity of what has been stated.

 

[BLAZE]

Funny... first you guys ask for feats due to what is presented in the manga. I show everything about Neji which you consider isn't enough proof as it is based on hear-say then it flips 180 degrees to now it is hear say. Asking me to present full manga evidence up until the Chuunin exam for a background character is near impossible.

This is going full circle.

I agree to disagree with you all

Why?

Because there is no proof Sasuke beat Neji
There is no proof Neji can beat Sasuke.

Show me manga scans then I will change my mind since this is the way we are playing it

Lel man are you saying your argument is neji has shown nothing to prove he beats sasuke in the manga but since he is side char with some nice feats we should automatically give him win over sasuke since he lacks panel time

 

[Mellanoma]

I never said it wasn't enough proof. I simply asked you to apply and explain how the material that you already provided supports your case. I didn't tell you to go get more scans I told you to explain the ones you have. lmao. So cut the crap. We've properly supported Sasuke being able to defeat Neji so if you don't want to agree then by all means believe what you want. :lol Won't change the validity of what has been stated.

You have shown me 1 scan this entire time and that was of Sasuke stabbing Gaara as he sits still lol

Proof Neji is fast enough to Dodge Chidori.

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Show me scans of Sasuke being able to manuever WITH chidori during chuunin exams then I will change my mind but based on these scans Neji can easily dodge a straight forward attack.


Scans of Neji planting feet and maneuvering to counter strike.

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Clear indication that Neji can re position himself and strike at the same time which would be natural for his fighting style especially against 2 Tomoe Sasuke who can't anticipate attacks yet. (Based on manga)

Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE Gates. Sasuke's only chance of winning is Chidori which he only has two chances of using. Neji's speed might not be fast as Sasuke but it's fast enough to dodge Chidori based on the scans I provided above

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[Made in Heaven]

We determine what is a better defense based on what they can block, not based on function. Rotation being able to do 2 extra things besides block doesn't make it any more durable than something that can't. That is point. Their properties being different doesn't matter.

It was put on par with Gaara's defense, so anything it blocked Neji;s rotation can as well.

The user expels a shroud of chakra and then spins at high speed causing that chakra to become a shield. If something rips through that chakra and hits Neji he doesn't rotate.

So what's stopping Neji form immediately expelling more Chakra to replace the pierced parts?

If wheel is spinning and a metal stick is stuck through it then it stops spinning.

Agree, but if the spinning is strong enough, that metal can be broken. Neji's rotation has the possibility of being able to damage Sasuke's arm if he attempts to attack Rotation head on with it and even if you believe Sasuke could pierce through Rotation, that isn't a possibility you can deny.

 

[KidGamer65]

You have shown me 1 scan this entire time and that was of Sasuke stabbing Gaara as he sits still lol

Proof Neji is fast enough to Dodge Chidori.

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Show me scans of Sasuke being able to manuever WITH chidori during chuunin exams then I will change my mind but based on these scans Neji can easily dodge a straight forward attack.


Scans of Neji planting feet and maneuvering to counter strike.

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Clear indication that Neji can re position himself and strike at the same time which would be natural for his fighting style especially against 2 Tomoe Sasuke who can't anticipate attacks yet. (Based on manga)

Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE Gates. Sasuke's only chance of winning is Chidori which he only has two chances of using. Neji's speed might not be fast as Sasuke but it's fast enough to dodge Chidori based on the scans I provided above

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How about we cut the BS now buddy? I've stated multiple times why Sasuke can land Chidori on Neji yet all you do is cry about scans without addressing what I stated, even though what I stated is literally what occurred in the Manga.

-Sasuke can maneuver with Chidori. That is the point of having the Sharingan. To be able to maneuver so you can dodge any incoming counter attack while using Chidori. Under normal circumstances I could say this and whoever I'm arguing with would know since the scan has been posted over 3x in this thread but I already know if I don't have a link here you'll come back whining about how I have no scans.

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S/N: Kakashi did not have the Sharingan yet he was still able to change direction and shit while using Chidori. Though normally something like this doesn't require any evidence because Chidori is just chakra in the user's hand. No reason why they wouldn't be able to move as normally. :lol

-You aren't even arguing. You are posting scans and saying that X is true because those scans but you keep failing to explain why. How in the world does Neji being able to counter and clash with Naruto's attacks translate to him being fast enough to dodge Chidori? Oh wait, it doesn't because there is no correlation whatsoever. Naruto is not Sasuke. Sasuke is far faster than Base. Meanwhile over 3x I've explained how Naruto was able to force Neji into an incomplete rotation. Sasuke is faster. Please do the math or don't respond. Not interested in a discussion where you repeat yourself like a broken record while ignoring what everyone is telling you.

Please just stop while you are behind. I already know that you won't agree because you've already made up your mind and will continue to ignore anything and everything that weighs against your favor.