Sasuke vs Neji in chunin exam

[KidGamer65]

It's a Chakra deflecting attack and we saw it do so against Bjuu Chakra. One that Tenten noted does more damage on the one approaching, which would be Sasuke in this case.

It does more damage on the one approaching if it can deflect it in the first place. This is not a hard concept to understand. If Madara attacked Neji w/ PS would you argue that because it deflects chakra Madara will take more damage? No. You won't, because then we'll look at PS's feats and see that it rapes Rotation just like any unbiased soul has look at Chidori's feats to come to the conclusion that it pierces Rotation.

Cool, I never said that.

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It managed to pierce through Gaara's sand, which does nothing but block, while Neji's block, repels, and damages.

Irrelevant. Is that evidence that Rotation is a stronger defense? No. Allow me to use this bad logic:

"Susanoo just blocks. Rotation blocks, repels and damages. It must be stronger".

Haha. no. Neji's blocks, and if it can block then it repels and damages. You can't show that it can block so there is no discussing about it repelling and damaging Sasuke.

This is irrelevant.

This is not a response so I'll assume that you have none. Concession on this point accepted. Naruto was surprised and jealous that Sasuke had the power to bust through Gaara's defense thus Naruto himself does not have the power to do so.

Doesn't mean Sasuke wins either.

Never said it does.

Fact remains that Neji's reflexes > Sasuke's/Lee's speed, Neji's speed > Sasuke's/Lee's, and Neji's taijutsu > Sasuke's/Lee's taijutsu before he even learned 64 Palms, which itself would mean his reflexes/taijutsu increased. Lee had to resort to the 5th Gate just to stand a chance against him.

-Neji isn't faster. More wank. Feats and the DB scores put both Weightless Lee and his equal, Sasuke, above Neji by an entire point.

-Neji being able to react to Sasuke doesn't change the outcome here. 99% of people fighting in this Manga have always been able to react to each other so I have no idea why you Hyuga fans keep mentioning this as if it's a +1 for this guy.

-Neji being superior in Taijutsu would also help a lot here, if this were a Taijutsu fight. Good thing that this is an all out Ninja battle which is more than just Taijutsu. Lee who only uses Taijutsu needed the 5th Gate to beat Neji. Sasuke is not Lee. So stop saying that since Lee needed so and so, Sasuke loses.

Let's ignore KCM's other buffs and act like its the same.

This is a very ironic statement because this is exactly what you are doing. You ignore the overall power of Sasuke's new speed combined with his new jutsu and say that since one is countered the other is useless. What's even funnier about this response is that it's irrelevant. Your logic dictates that since Ay can keep up with Naruto that Naruto's speed doesn't affect the outcome of the battle. Is this true? No. Are you not saying that since Neji can keep up w/ Sasuke that his speed doesn't affect the outcome of the battle?

Yes, you are and please don't try to lie.

Ok so lets play by your rules then. How does Sasuke beat Neji?

How about you just address what I stated first, then we can talk about how Sasuke goes about defeating Neji even though I've probably stated how he wins at least 3 times in this thread in the last 2 pages.

 

[Mellanoma]

Lmao this post is chock full of terrible logic and claims you can't even support.

-Neji hit Naruto at a quick speed thus Sasuke can't dodge.

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing.

-Neji tanked Naruto's Kyuubi cloak, thus he tanks Sasuke's attacks.

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing. Naruto's physical attacks in this faux KN0 mode are not anywhere near the power of Chidori or Rasengan. Chidori has superior feats. It's equal Rasengan has superior feats. Not to mention Neji didn't tank a damn thing. :lol He ended up on the floor. He barely blocked it.

"Hyuuga don't attack, they counter attack thus Sasuke loses"

That's not an argument. This post is full of statements. Not arguments. If I wasn't sure about Sasuke beating Neji before I'm definitely 100% sure he does now considering it seems to be too hard for the around 5-6 people who have posted in Neji's favor to post a good argument that doesn't rely on the extrapolation and exaggeration of Neji's feats.

How about you just address what I stated first, then we can talk about how Sasuke goes about defeating Neji even though I've probably stated how he wins at least 3 times in this thread in the last 2 pages.

Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge Chidori?

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

 

[TheEvilOne]

You are wanking his striking speed again. The madness never ends.

 

[Mellanoma]

You are wanking his striking speed again. The madness never ends.

Not wanking striking speed just presenting everything I have on Neji.

answer the questions! lol

 

[TheEvilOne]

Not wanking striking speed just presenting everything I have on Neji.

answer the questions! lol

Give me speed feats Neji fighting someone actually fast and not the lamest version of Naruto, then we'll have a discussion. Until then his handspeed is irrelevant.

 

[Mellanoma]

Give me speed feats Neji fighting someone actually fast and not the lamest version of Naruto, then we'll have a discussion. Until then his handspeed is irrelevant.

There are no feats EXCEPT for Naruto's fight AND Lee admitting inferiority. Foot placement and strikes is all we have to go on. This is why I decided to get into this thread because you have one side with not much to go off of and another side who have nothing but wank(sasuke)

This period of the series was PURE Sasuke wank lol

Answer the question please

 

[BLAZE]

Not wanking striking speed just presenting everything I have on Neji.

Its his striking speed.meaning its his speed.
If he can react to it while delivering them why won't sasuke whose reaction is superior considering he totally outmaneuvered gaara's sand even without sharingan

 

[Mellanoma]

Its his striking speed.meaning its his speed.
If he can react to it while delivering them why won't sasuke whose reaction is superior considering he totally outmaneuvered gaara's sand even without sharingan

Give me speed feats Neji fighting someone actually fast and not the lamest version of Naruto, then we'll have a discussion. Until then his handspeed is irrelevant.

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Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge or counter Chidori

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

 

[Hakke]

1. That's the same thing, just different wording.

2. That's false as I've already explained. Sure, the more skilled you are IN GENERAL the better at blocking you'll be than if you weren't, but comparing Taijutsu stats doesn't tell you who can block more effectively in close combat as my example clearly shows.

You're just repeating what you already said, and what you already said is wrong.

I am not only speaking about blocking, but I am also speaking about counterattacks. and you haven't explained anything. you only said that Taijutsu doesn't give reflexive movements, and you used Itachi/Hebi Sasuke/Tsunade as an example. but you didn't explain how reaction speed can be more important than skills and hand speed in terms of blocking and counterattacks.

lets say that you have the reaction speed, but you can't move your hand fast enough to block a fast strike, and you are not skilled enough to counter attacks , then it's useless. the reaction speed can only help you in dodging and evading

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Wrong.

okay

Byakugan is not Sharingan. There is no "anticipation" that will take place on Neji's side here. Neji countering it with Kaiten is exactly the point of Sasuke using it, then he hits him with Chidori. Neji probably won't completely evade Chidori from close range let alone Chidori from close range used while he's rotating to block other attacks, and no, if he keeps Rotating then Chidori tears through and kills him. :lol

the distance of the radius of Kaiten is good enough to give Neji a chance to evade. Sasuke is not fast enough that Neji would not be able to react to him

and @bold how can Sasuke attack with Chidori and use other attacks at the same time ?

Lmao and why exactly would it dull his reflexes? Or are you just trying to create demerits for the jutsu that don't exist?

because as I said before, the user of this Jutsu needs to concentrate on a huge amount of Chakra on his hands. all that while also concentrating on the battle

No, they are not in the same tier in speed. They are in the same tier when it comes to regular movement speed without enhancements on Sasuke's side. Neji, Sasuke w/ Lee's speed and Lee are all on the same tier of speed w/ Neji being slightly superior, however that is only movement speed. What you keep failing to get is that reaction speed is the most important factor here as the guy who reacts faster will essentially dodge faster. Sasuke's reaction speed>>Neji's by feats. Taijutsu skills and hand speed are not more essential than speed when it comes to evasion and blocking. Not a chance and that has been addressed above.

Sasuke's reaction speed is irrelevant since Neji would be the one reacting here. and Sasuke's speed is not on the level that Neji would not be able to react to it, in fact Neji is lightly superior when it come to movements speed and he has a great reflexes, superior Taijutsu skills and faster hand movements, along with having the Byakugan which have a better attack tracking

if Sasuke attempted Chidori, Neji would simply dodge it and press the Chakra points in Sasuke's arm to disable it. it is really as simple as that

Uh, no. If Chidori can break through Kaiten then Kaiten's spinning isn't going to destroy the Chidori and Sasuke's arm. Neji's rotation will simply slow down and cease once he gets it.

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a complete Kaiten is even greater than Gaara's sand defense. so don't think that Chidori would peirce it that easily. it needs to make it way through a thick layer of Chakra and the fast spinning would likely damage Sasuke's arm

Definitely not based on what I'm reading here.

> You say that Neji can parry Chidori and block the points in Sasuke's arm to disable the jutsu.
> I point out how Sasuke's reaction speed>>Neji's and that Neji is only slightly faster than him.
> You ignore all this and keep saying "he only needs a touch, I don't see why he can't do it".

> You say that Neji being more skilled and having faster striking speed means that he can block better.
> You ignore the fact that blocking and evasion relate to reaction speed more than skill. It doesn't take skill to throw up an ordinary guard.

and you forgot that Sasuke would be the one who strikes, and Neji would be the one reacting and countering here.

 

[BLAZE]

Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

So should i cry kishimoto didn't give neji panel time

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.

yes its as fast as the user can deliver it since he/she needs to strike tenketsu which are size of needle tip.base naruto isn't himself some kind of speedster or has reactions remotely close to sasuke

Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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yes obviously he does since nothing in his arsenal below secondary lotus will take out neji.
on other hand will sasuke's chidori take out neji.yes it will

Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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no he said he needs secondary lotus to beat neji not 5th gate.secondary lotus can be performed after opening third gate
the emphasis is on jutsu not gates

Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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dunno where got this from :lol but

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gai said his speed is equal to unweighted lee [

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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and this matters why

Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge or counter Chidori

well till now i haven't seen anything solid from anyone debating from neji's side how he does that

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

Obviously no.
no one even remotely implied it

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[Mellanoma]

So should i cry kishimoto didn't give neji panel time



yes its as fast as the user can deliver it since he/she needs to strike tenketsu which are size of needle tip.base naruto isn't himself some kind of speedster or has reactions remotely close to sasuke



yes obviously he does since nothing in his arsenal below secondary lotus will take out neji.
on other hand will sasuke's chidori take out neji.yes it will



no he said he needs secondary lotus to beat neji not 5th gate.secondary lotus can be performed after opening third gate
the emphasis is on jutsu not gates


dunno where got this from :lol but

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and this matters why



well till now i haven't seen anything solid from anyone debating from neji's side how he does that


Obviously no.
no one even remotely implied it

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Didn't answer the first question. Based on what I showed I believe Neji is capable of stopping Chidor. Show me why he can't

 

[BLAZE]

Didn't answer the first question. Based on what I showed I believe Neji is capable of stopping Chidor. Show me why he can't

i did and your example had zero correlation with manga

striking fast that base naruto cannot react does not remotely proves sasuke will have problem

downplaying sasuke's speed as inferior to base lee isn't helping you when manga states otherwise

stamina isn't a factor when we know sasuke can use chidori twice without curse mark and needs to land only 1 hit with it to win

saying lee needs secondary lotus to beat neji so sasuke won't is beating around the bush when lee has nothing below secondary lotus that will give him win against neji while sasuke has chidori

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a complete Kaiten is even greater than Gaara's sand defense. so don't think that Chidori would peirce it that easily. it needs to make it way through a thick layer of Chakra and the fast spinning would likely damage Sasuke's arm

:lol what chidori pierced was shield of sand [

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dunno why you guys blow manga out of proportion

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Armor of Sand (Suna no Yoroi)

Ninjutsu, Unranked, Defensive, Close range

User: Gaara

The will of the sand shell. The why of the Absolute Defense.

The reason why Temari says Gaara cannot be hurt by anyone lies with this Armor of Sand. Just as the name implies, he wears the sand over his whole body like an armor, thus boosting his defensive ability. However, this jutsu Gaara activates willingly is highly chakra-consuming, on top of which it is inferior to the Sand Shield* in defensive ability. Proper, clever use of the Sand Shield and Armor is precisely what the Absolute Defense is about.

The Difference between the Shield of Sand and the Armour of Sand…

The sand adheres to the caster’s body like a shell. This is the Armour of Sand. When the sand flows in response to external attacks, it’s the Shield of Sand.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

The only thing that gives neji a chance here (imo) is the fact that at this point in the manga sasuke still needed some time to do chidori, if he was able to do it instantly like in ship, with lees speed, I don't think neji would be able to fully activate kaiten in time(again, my simple opinion)

 

[BLAZE]

The only thing that gives neji a chance here (imo) is the fact that at this point in the manga sasuke still needed some time to do chidori, if he was able to do it instantly like in ship, with lees speed, I don't think neji would be able to fully activate kaiten in time(again, my simple opinion)

this is the same sasuke isn't he [

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Yea but that's my point, sasuke in ship can use chidori instantly, like rush and then activate it type of thing, chunnin sasuke as you can see in the scans has to hold the arm using chidori with his other arm to build up the chakra(I think he does this until vote1 tbh) this is a huge amount of time(battle wise) for neji to see the chakra building up and activate kaiten. If sasuke where able to just rush and chidori at this point neji wouldn't have the time to fully activate kaiten as I doubt he'd use it just to repel a rushing sasuke who he thinks is just going to strike... or at least that's my take on it

 

[Mellanoma]

i did and your example had zero correlation with manga

striking fast that base naruto cannot react does not remotely proves sasuke will have problem

downplaying sasuke's speed as inferior to base lee isn't helping you when manga states otherwise

stamina isn't a factor when we know sasuke can use chidori twice without curse mark and needs to land only 1 hit with it to win

saying lee needs secondary lotus to beat neji so sasuke won't is beating around the bush when lee has nothing below secondary lotus that will give him win against neji while sasuke has chidori

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Armor of Sand (Suna no Yoroi)

Ninjutsu, Unranked, Defensive, Close range

User: Gaara

The will of the sand shell. The why of the Absolute Defense.

The reason why Temari says Gaara cannot be hurt by anyone lies with this Armor of Sand. Just as the name implies, he wears the sand over his whole body like an armor, thus boosting his defensive ability. However, this jutsu Gaara activates willingly is highly chakra-consuming, on top of which it is inferior to the Sand Shield* in defensive ability. Proper, clever use of the Sand Shield and Armor is precisely what the Absolute Defense is about.

The Difference between the Shield of Sand and the Armour of Sand…

The sand adheres to the caster’s body like a shell. This is the Armour of Sand. When the sand flows in response to external attacks, it’s the Shield of Sand.

Then why can't Lee without gates beat Neji?

Considering there are no feats showing Neji > Lee we must go off what is presented in the manga.

Sasuke's striking speed is </= base lee who clearly stated Neji was superior to him.

While chidori is a straight forward dash to kill Sasuke has never shown the ability to consistently dodge high speed consecutive strikes especially ones at the speed indicated with Neji's attacks. Show me feats of this being untrue then I will disagree

Chidori leaves you vulnerable to counter attack and is a straight forward lunging attack. Yes Sasuke's eyes help accommodate for this drawback but I believe Neji is capable of not only dodging chidori but also countering it with Juken.

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Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge or counter Chidori

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

Still waiting a solid No with proof for both my questions. If you can't provide it then Neji takes this fight

 

[KidGamer65]

I am not only speaking about blocking, but I am also speaking about counterattacks. and you haven't explained anything. you only said that Taijutsu doesn't give reflexive movements, and you used Itachi/Hebi Sasuke/Tsunade as an example. but you didn't explain how reaction speed can be more important than skills and hand speed in terms of blocking and counterattacks.

It doesn't matter what you're speaking about. I've already addressed it. Being more skilled at Taijutsu doesn't mean that you will block and counter attack faster than someone who isn't. There is no correlation whatsoever. That's why Itachi and Sasuke can block and counter better than Tsunade can in close combat, because they are faster with far greater reaction speed. Not sure if I'm typing in a foreign language or not because this isn't hard to understand for someone who wants to understand.

Meanwhile you've yet to explain a single thing you are claiming. Instead you post things like "he's fast so it happens" "it's really as simple as that". :lol

lets say that you have the reaction speed, but you can't move your hand fast enough to block a fast strike, and you are not skilled enough to counter attacks , then it's useless. the reaction speed can only help you in dodging and evading

Lmao doesn't make sense. If you have the reaction speed necessary to do so then you will be able to do so. Reaction speed isn't just mental. It's mental and physical. This whole statement doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You don't need to be skilled to counter attacks. Countering attacks can be as simple as blocking and then striking or it can as complex as some of the Hyuga's movements.

the distance of the radius of Kaiten is good enough to give Neji a chance to evade. Sasuke is not fast enough that Neji would not be able to react to him

and @bold how can Sasuke attack with Chidori and use other attacks at the same time ?

No, it obviously isn't. Neji's Kaiten isn't large nor does that even matter because the point is Neji will be rotating while Sasuke is advancing on him, and where did I say Neji can't react to Sasuke? I said Neji won't dodge him under these circumstances. And no one ever said he'd be using two attacks at once. I said Sasuke will use one attack and follow up with Chidori.

Not to mention Naruto (not as fast as weightless Lee or Sasuke by extension) managed to pressure Neji enough that he was able to clash with an incomplete rotation due to Neji being unable to rotate fast enough in time. Imagine if that was Sasuke in Naruto's position, who is faster (or in the same league at least) than that Naruto and has Chidori. Neji would be run through. That's just another strategy that can be added to the list. Sasuke has the very clear movement speed advantage so using that speed he can have Chidori match up against an incomplete rotation and end Neji's life.

because as I said before, the user of this Jutsu needs to concentrate on a huge amount of Chakra on his hands. all that while also concentrating on the battle

You've yet to explain HOW the bold means his reaction speed falls. Is what you are saying true? Sure. Does that mean that what you are saying affects Sasuke negatively? No. Not a chance.

It's hilarious how when I statement something you expect explanations, which I provide. But when you state something and I ask for an explanation instead of explaining you restate your words. :lol Please argue by the standards you set for others or don't argue at all.

Sasuke's reaction speed is irrelevant since Neji would be the one reacting here. and Sasuke's speed is not on the level that Neji would not be able to react to it, in fact Neji is lightly superior when it come to movements speed and he has a great reflexes, superior Taijutsu skills and faster hand movements, along with having the Byakugan which have a better attack tracking

1. Sasuke is faster. DB supports it. Feats support this. End of story on that matter. There is literally zero evidence supporting Neji being faster than Sasuke.

2. Neji having good reflexes isn't proof of your claim so unless you are going to make some kind of comparative statement you can drop this point as well. Same goes for his Taijutsu skills and faster hand movements.

3. Byakugan having better attack tracking is more BS that you pulled out of your ass. Byakugan doesn't track attacks period thus it can't be superior to an eye that actually does.

if Sasuke attempted Chidori, Neji would simply dodge it and press the Chakra points in Sasuke's arm to disable it. it is really as simple as that

"It is really as simple as that" isn't an argument. :lol So unless you can think of something worth responding to I'll take this as a concession.

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a complete Kaiten is even greater than Gaara's sand defense. so don't think that Chidori would peirce it that easily. it needs to make it way through a thick layer of Chakra and the fast spinning would likely damage Sasuke's arm

Tenten stated that Neji's defense is superior (which is based on nothing but her opinion btw since she knows jack about Gaara's abilities) because it does more than just block. Not because it's defensive capabilities in terms of what it can and cannot block surpass that of Gaara's Sand. Gaara's Sand has and always will have superior feats.

If it can't repel Chidori then there's no need to talk about what damage Sasuke will take, because he will take none at all.

and you forgot that Sasuke would be the one who strikes, and Neji would be the one reacting and countering here.

No, I didn't forget. It doesn't matter because you've been unable to support Neji countering how you claim he'd counter.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke was the most wanked character ever during the Chuunin exams and Neji has what? 30 panels the entire manga. One can only base theory and feats off of what was compared to said characters. Im not even a Neji fan but anyways ill continue.

Here is what I have regarding Neji during Chunnin Exams

Neji striking Naruto:

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Say what you like but this proves just how fast Neji Gentle fist strikes are.


Lee admitting he needs lotus to take down Neji.

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Why? Because since Lee lacks the ability to see counters he will be beaten by Neji's gentle fist SO to compensate for that he needs EXTREMELY high speeds IE 5G Lotos

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Sasuke is still slower than Base Lee

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Sasuke uses a huge amount of stamina to maintain that speed

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Now with all this presented I ask you two questions

1) Do you believe Neji can dodge Chidori?

2) Can Sasuke win without Chidori?

No, he doesn't dodge Chidori if Sasuke uses it right. Sasuke=Weightless Lee>=Naruto using Kurama's chakra in the Chunnin Exams. Naruto managed to attack Neji before Neji could rotate completely. If Sasuke does the same thing Neji dies as Chidori would rip through his defenses. That or he can use wires and Katon to force Neji to rotate or dodge, thus opening himself up. That or he can use Chidori while in close combat with him.

And no, he doesn't win without Chidori. As for the feats you brought up:

-No, Lee is not faster than Sasuke. In what universe does "about the same" mean "Sasuke is inferior".

-Sasuke's stamina isn't relevant because he has more than enough to complete this battle as he was able to make it through his battle against Gaara and then fight him briefly after he transformed.

-And no, that scan doesn't prove anything when it comes to his speed besides the fact he can tag Naruto. But Naruto and Sasuke are not the same person. Sasuke>>Naruto in speed.

 

[Zexion~]

SRA Neji > CE Sasuke>> CE Neji

 

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And no, he doesn't win without Chidori. As for the feats you brought up:

-No, Lee is not faster than Sasuke. In what universe does "about the same" mean "Sasuke is inferior".

-Sasuke's stamina isn't relevant because he has more than enough to complete this battle as he was able to make it through his battle against Gaara and then fight him briefly after he transformed.

-And no, that scan doesn't prove anything when it comes to his speed besides the fact he can tag Naruto. But Naruto and Sasuke are not the same person. Sasuke>>Naruto in speed.

Ah now we are getting somewhere.

No, he doesn't dodge Chidori if Sasuke uses it right. Sasuke=Weightless Lee>=Naruto using Kurama's chakra in the Chunnin Exams. Naruto managed to attack Neji before Neji could rotate completely. If Sasuke does the same thing Neji dies as Chidori would rip through his defenses. That or he can use wires and Katon to force Neji to rotate or dodge, thus opening himself up. That or he can use Chidori while in close combat with him.

There is no way Sasuke Chidori can rip through raw chakra without injury to himself.

Also comparing NAruto's Kyuubi cloak to Chidori dash is silly as Kyuubi cloak gives full body protection to the user and is FAR MORE durable than Chidori.

@bold Show me feats of Sasuke being capable to dodge and strike faster than Neji. To say Sasuke would beat Neji in hand to hand combat is just absurd. Especially since Gaara's sand is much slower than Lee (Thought i throw that in there since Sasuke > Naruto in speed right?)


Mechanics behind Kaiten would wreck Sasuke's chidori:

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-Sasuke's stamina isn't relevant because he has more than enough to complete this battle as he was able to make it through his battle against Gaara and then fight him briefly after he transformed.

He only gets two Chidori

-And no, that scan doesn't prove anything when it comes to his speed besides the fact he can tag Naruto. But Naruto and Sasuke are not the same person. Sasuke>>Naruto in speed.

Once again show me scans of Sasuke attacking Naruto or anyone at Neji's strike speed or evading any one at Neji's strike speed. Feats? Right?


Man thinking about that naruto v neji fight really shows how much Kurama was a pain in the ass

Also you answered No to one of my questions