Byakugan Honesty

[The Necromancer]

Agree, doesn't change the fact that it was blatantly pointed out because the eye is foreign to him, he couldn't use it as well as an Uchiha.



Because original wielder will obviously have better powers. The Byakugan is an alien eye innate to them that was adapted by the human Hyuga.

I don't understand.

The Sharingan is a 3x watered down version of an artificial eye innate to Hagoromo and adapted by the human Uchiha as well. What's your point?

The Byakugan is actually more pure than any version of the Sharingan, and yet every top tier Uchiha can defeat every top tier Hyuuga, with even non-Uchiha Sharingan users and genetic bastard clones surpassing the majority of the Hyuuga clan as well.

And that's before even talking about the Rinnegan, Hagoromo's version of the Byakugan, and those characters in the manga who have made use of it.

 

[Styles]

Agree, doesn't change the fact that it was blatantly pointed out because the eye is foreign to him, he couldn't use it as well as an Uchiha.



Because original wielder will obviously have better powers. The Byakugan is an alien eye innate to them that was adapted by the human Hyuga.

You could argue that Kaguya's usage of the Vacuum Palm Attack is an unfair standard to hold the whole Ootsutsuki Clan to considering she at the Chakra Fruit, I agree. But the problem is there aren't much other Ootsutsuki to compare her to, not ones that use Byakugan at least. We saw Hamura and Toneri were able to use the Tenseigan, and that thing provides a Chakra Mode on par with a Rikudo-enhanced Bijuu Sage Mode, provides Truth Seeker Orbs that only Six Paths Sage Mode provided Naruto, was capable of telekinetic forces akin to Almighty Push, can near instantly absorb Chakra and Ninjutsu, which left someone like Naruto on the verge of death.



Losing doesn't devalue the power of their eyes.



Obito had Sharingan for like two seconds before getting Hashirama DNA. Itachi and Shisui are prodigies. Normal Uchiha is Fugaku's level.



Hiashi could beat Fugaku. Both are normal members of their clans.

@Bold only agree because we know nothing of Fugaku all we know is that he was strong enough to become head of the Uchiha and the police force. Kishi gave us no intel on his abilities.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Oh so you blame plot for their losses? Cry me a river. I'm not arguing over sh*t that has already been disputed. Who cares if they put in the difficult situation, they still lost. An L is still an L no matter how you try to perceive it, I terpret it, or change the manga to mold your opinion. They lost, and they are the alien race. She did what she did, get over it again, you claim what she should have done yet that wasn't in the manga so continue on. Naruto freaking tanked Toneri's moon's cutter, just stop. I hate saying this but of course Naruto was going to win, and if you think he wasnt going to win just by Naruto being Naruto well don't be surprised, the Anime was called f*cking Naruto, who'd you expect to win Toneri. Feats or no feats Naruto is canonically better than Toneri, that's ends that. I don't want to hear detail about a fused Momoshiki who got defeated by a rasengan. This whole conversation is useless and I'm not going to bother to reply unless it's actually worth it.

Some simple minded thinking from you here. Yeah lose is lose but your are under the impression (as far as I'm concerned from how you chose to worded your post) that they all won so easily. Key word here is 'they'. 'They' mean many people involved. Naruto or Sasuke never defeat this three people single-handedly.

What, you think its easy for Naruto alone to defeat Kaguya or Momo? And makes them a fodder infront of him. Story suggest otherwise. Its like saying Minato get downgrade to fodder level bcus JJ wrecked him left and right.

And Toneri not really defeated by Naruto but by his own uncontrollable power.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I don't understand.

The Sharingan is a 3x watered down version of an artificial eye innate to Hagoromo and adapted by the human Uchiha as well. What's your point?The Byakugan is actually more pure than any version of the Sharingan

Well, what I'm trying to say is the Byakugan is an alien eye that was passed down to humans, while the Sharingan is an eye that was manifested in humans themselves. I think that would play a big difference in how humans can wield the eyes.

every top tier Uchiha can defeat every top tier Hyuuga, with even non-Uchiha Sharingan users and genetic bastard clones surpassing the majority of the Hyuuga clan as well.

I know every top tier Uchiha beats every top tier Hyuga, but most Uchiha wield power that has no correlation with the Sharingan. I'm talking about the eyes themselves, their abilities, not the people wielding them.

Danzo had Hashirama DNA in order to wield Sharingan, Kakashi... don't know enough about him to comment.

Haven't seen much of the Hyuga clan as a whole, but considering they're called Konoha's strongest clan and their taijutsu prowess being praised by Lee, I doubt a bunch of clones that got taken out by a 12 year old punching the ground are superior to them. They're definitely not beating Hiashi, Neji, Hizashi, or Hinata.

And that's before even talking about the Rinnegan, Hagoromo's version of the Byakugan, and those characters in the manga who have made use of it.

What about it?

 

[The Necromancer]

Well, what I'm trying to say is the Byakugan is an alien eye that was passed down to humans, while the Sharingan is an eye that was manifested in humans themselves. I think that would play a big difference in how humans can wield the eyes.


I know every top tier Uchiha beats every top tier Hyuga, but most Uchiha wield power that has no correlation with the Sharingan. I'm talking about the eyes themselves, their abilities, not the people wielding them.

Danzo had Hashirama DNA, Kakashi... don't know enough about him to comment.

Haven't seen much of the Hyuga clan as a whole, but considering they're called Konoha's strongest clan and their taijutsu prowess, I doubt a bunch of clones that got taken out by a 12 year old punching the ground are superior to them. They're definitely not Hiashi, Neji, Hizashi, or Hinata.



What about it?

You don't see how hypocritical it is to say that the Hyuga are at a disadvantage with their eyes from a god, than the Uchiha with their 3x watered down eyes from the same god?

There's literally no evidence in the entirety of the manga that the Byakugan has any drawbacks from being Kaguya's original eyes. Literally none. At all. So that's entirely fanfiction.

And even if they were more difficult to adapt to, who cares? That just means they're worse than the Sharingan, which proves your opposition correct anyway.

Lastly, you really think upgrades have anything to do with Uchiha shitstomping Hyuuga?

EMS Madara, MS Itachi, MS Shisui, EMS Sasuke, MS Izuna. Literally all Uchiha with no exterior upgrades to their abilities, all able to take out any of the most elite Hyuuga with stupid ease using their eyes alone.

You really just have to accept that the Byakugan is the shittiest of the Doujutsu, and the Hyuuga were forgotten. It's a manga fact. Get out of the past. The Hyuuga are called Konoha's strongest clan because the Senju and Uchiha are gone. They're one of the only clans left, and even then I can think of a few other clans that give them a run for their money as well.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Another thing I wants you to think Uchihauzamakibarrage, Uchiha Madara, Uchiha Obito (MS/EMS users) and Nagato (Rinnegan user), they all lose to Naruto, Sasuke, BZ etc. Does that make them fodder on the level of Otsutsuki like you suggest here?

Dont be double standard.

 

[The Necromancer]

I'll assume by the lack of counter arguments that any and all Hyuuga fanboys in this thread have conceded the argument, and have realized that the Hyuuga clan, though more powerful than nearly all of the other no-names, are still immensely outclassed by anyone of merit in this manga, and especially by the elite clans such as the Uchiha or the Senju, even by only taking in to account their inherent Kekkei Genkai and bloodline traits.

It was a good run.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I'll assume by the lack of counter arguments that any and all Hyuuga fanboys in this thread have conceded the argument, and have realized that the Hyuuga clan, though more powerful than nearly all of the other no-names, are still immensely outclassed by anyone of merit in this manga, and especially by the elite clans such as the Uchiha or the Senju, even by only taking in to account their inherent Kekkei Genkai and bloodline traits.

It was a good run.

Why you ignore my manga facts?

 

[Styles]

Byakugan is trash but no one can use Kaguya as an example to say a Byakugan user is better than a Sharingan user. Considering 1 Kaguya ate the chakra fruit and have more chakra than freaking JJ Madara. Which makes her attacks literally stronger than any and everyone else's. And 2 she uses her Rinne-Sharingan more than her Byakugan. You should compare Hyuga's to Uchiha's. Hyuga's Byakugan to Uchiha's Byakugan.

 

[Amenotejikara]

All of the Byakugan's current hype comes from purposefully misinterpreted manga scans.

Maybe it will live up to the hype with this new manga, but in Kishi's manga, it was left behind.

Lol and filler approved movies. Then again even those quickly overshadowed its relevancy with an upgraded eye

 

[Marin]

I'm gonna cringe hard if it ends up not being a Byakugan at all but a different mutation instead.

 

[lndra]

I'm gonna cringe hard if it ends up not being a Byakugan at all but a different mutation instead.

It most likely isn't a byakugan. I don't think Bolt saw Denki's chakra points

They actually showed us what he saw through the perspective of his dojutsu. Too lazy to screenshot tho

 

[Marin]

It most likely isn't a byakugan. I don't think Bolt saw Denki's chakra points

They actually showed us what he saw through the perspective of his dojutsu. Too lazy to screenshot tho

Yea ik, he only saw the dark aura. But you know how hyuga enthusiasts be...

 

[lndra]

Yea ik, he only saw the dark aura. But you know how hyuga enthusiasts be...

Yeah we'll find out in 5 years XD

 

[Shruikan]

I'm gonna cringe hard if it ends up not being a Byakugan at all but a different mutation instead.

Its standard for Hyuuga fans to be trolled in this series. Nothing new

 

[ninjarasengan]

Why the hell is it so amazing all of a sudden. Is it because Naruto married a Hyuga? Is it because his son has a Byakugan? What the hell is the hype behind it?

I really don't understand, if it was that strong of a dojutsu, what would be the point of constantly bragging about it.

This is why a lot of NB Uchiha fans are annoying. Try to discuss anything that isn't Uchiha wank and threads like this happen

 

[UnknownJin]

Byakugan is originally the eyes of the Ootsutsuki. You bringing up the Hyuga to attest for the Byakugan is like me bringing up the Shin clones or Kakashi to attest for Sharingan.

Madara and Sasuke are not normal. From birth they was Indra's incarnate, which naturally made them superior to other Uchiha.

Sharingan is the origin of Kaguya's Eye / Shinju / Rinnegan

 

[AlphaScythian]

Its but culmination of cumulative projections of all hyuuga fandom expectations through out the manga.

Some kid got some weird eye but it has to be byakugan and it has to solo (unlike ever happened)

 

[To Whatever]

10 years of sharingan wank is fine but Byakugan gets like 4 months of exposure and people lose their minds.

i'm not going to mention fanbases. But they are the most insecure about the smallest things.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Gah, I believe it is too early for anything. Bandwagon or not, byakugan deserves the hype it can get as long as we see the clear line between what is legit and not. Don't mind me, as an NH shipper and someone who fn loves the Hyuuga and Byakugan, I'm gonna savour this one hell of a ride. Epsiode 1 Is imteresting, I'm invested to see more.

Word, can we just enjoy the byakugan to ourselves? it is not like us enjoying our byakugan ruin the crp out of your beloved sharingan or anything else for that matter. And OP is not amazing all of a sudden. It has always been one hell of a jutsu, if only it had the development it needed, maybe the wank is almost acceptable to everyone just like those of the sharingan.

Spoiler

Thoughts About Episode 1...
was it before the events of the movie? because I think it is, or did I miss anything? if it were, then Boruto might have been possessing some mutated dojutsu, the same stuff Momoshiki sensed as shown in the recent chapters in the manga.
that would also mean the movie may get adapted to the small screen. coughs retcon. it is unlikely that Boruto would have Byakugan per se, I come to believe.