Sasuke lost to Naruto. However...

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He used most of his chakra to fight Madara, Kaguya and only then Sasuke.


He used last portion of their chakra to undo IT and never used their chakra against Sasuke.


Which he used to proyect SA and other things as i said earlier. If i remember correctly Kurama even became exhausted and needed recharge

Nope.

He also used 1000x more chakra and even whenhe got chakra from someone he used this chakra as well.
"He used last portion of their chakra to undo IT and never used their chakra against Sasuke. "

The mode he was in requires their chakra. If he never used their chakra then not only would he have not used that mode, but never ran out of chakra.
 

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If Sasuke runs out of chakra Itachi's eyes are useless

If Naruto runs out of chakra. The sentient being recharges him and tells him to use it wisely

That is the difference.
Then Naruto wouldn't have run out of chakra during VoTE 2. Kurama wouldn't go to sleep and recharge Naruto's chakra. Its just one ignorant excuse after another.
 
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"He used last portion of their chakra to undo IT and never used their chakra against Sasuke. "

The mode he was in requires their chakra. If he never used their chakra then not only would he have not used that mode, but never ran out of chakra.
Nope. according to databook SPSM has nothing to do with bijuu influence. It was gift from the sage.
 

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yeA LIKE HAVING 8.5 OF ALL TAIL BEAST CHAKRA....SEEMS FAIR.
Once again Sasuke:

Genjutsu them
CT them

Its not like he used their power to increase his own chakra reserves

He used his Susanoo as a conduit to try and control it

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Then Naruto wouldn't have run out of chakra during VoTE 2. Kurama wouldn't go to sleep and recharge Naruto's chakra. Its just one ignorant excuse after another.
lol you just focus on disproving the original thread. Dont deflect its a sign of defeat.
Kurama went to sleep because Naruto's terrible at using it properly :)

sasuke can use preta path one of the many op just he unlocks with his powerups
His eye wasn't fully developed during the fight which is why he couldn't use preta effectively. This was stated by Kurama
 
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sasuke can use preta path one of the many op just he unlocks with his powerups
Yeah. Relying on a jutsu to be cast at you so you can stand still for a few seconds to absorb it into your body while leaving yourself open to attacks is completely analogous to a monster inside of you giving you chakra after a bit with no effort on your part and no requirements to be fulfilled.

Also, surprise, he unlocked it at a point in the fight that it's optimal use had already passed.

Oh boy so Naruto having the other bijuu's chakra don't count then huh? Des Naruto fans always 1 dimensional.
I'm honestly baffled that Naruto fans seriously believe that Sasuke absorbed 100% of all 8 Bijuu's chakra.

These morons complain all day about Naruto and the Kyuubi being low on chakra during their fight, yet also believe that 1% Kyuubi and 1% Naruto with VotE Nature Chakra equals 100% of Bijuu's 1-8. Are they retarded?
 
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These faps and their "8.5" lmao where's the math bruh?

Also if it is "8.5" He used all of it to tie against 1 COAT TBB ONE FULL NE FROM KURAMA BOTH WRAPPED IN WRS (Wind > lightning supposedly but has never beaten chidori but according to LOST shetty thread it is lmao) To sasuke's inferior lightning arrow and it only managed to tie lmao.

Yeah Sasuke is all powerful with those bijuu...not. Sasuke didn't even use all the chakra because as soon as he dropped he was going to use the rest but he couldn't because he used his rinnegan too much. Had he used ALL of it (which would resort to the bijuu not being in CT anymore but AHHH they were) Naruto would of been nuked.
 
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The fact that you morons believe that eyes are equal to a chakra demon is laughable and proves every single time that you are unworthy of relevant debate.

Go cry about your boyfriend having every advantage in the manga with someone who cares. You're all pathetic anyway.
Yes the eyes that gives precog, Amaterasu, genjutsu, PS and above all have the ability to control all the tailed beast. And if you're laughing at such a comparison then there is no point talking to you.
@Bold I am not a sausage fap....=D

- Abilities he had to learn/develop/master through training & battle. Unlike Naruto he didn't recieve the Universal Comprehnsion of all things.

- EMS doesn't gather and give the user chakra while he is busy fighting their opponent.

- Mention Sasuke's boost yet don't mention Naruto's. Also how in the world does Sasuke have 8.5 of the Biju's power whilst Naruto has 0.5? Not only does this ignore how Naruto also had portions of their chakra, but it implies that Sasuke has not only the full power of each Bijuu even though he's not a Jin, but also the same amount of the Kyuubi's power as Naruto. How would the Yang Kyuubi, whose chakra was continously used by Naruto KCM training-when he had stolen by Madara, then used by Madara & Kaguya as Jins, have equivalent power to the Yin Kyuubi which started being used since the Juubi Obito battle?

Apparently logic doesn't matter as long as it makes Naruto look better than Sasuke.
And yet Naruto didn't know he could fly or shapeshift the TSBs to defend himself.

EMS gives the user PS and other improvements over existing MS abilities

If you understand yang kurama having very little chakra due to it being used by Naruto, Madara and Kaguya then
Naruto did all the major fighting against Kaguya while also providing a stable TSB footing for Sasuke to be able to contribute and thus he was already exhausted and the taile beast didn't give all of their chakra to Naruto and Naruto didn't use even one tailed beast ability against Sasuke. So again, Sasuke had the chakra depleted 8.5 bijuus and Naruto had chakra depleted 0.5 Kurama. So chakra of 8.5 bijuu would still be more than the chakra of yin kurama even if he molds chakra for Naruto. Naruto has run out of chakra and yang Kurama wasn't always able to mold chakra in time so definitely chakra molding too isn't instant.
 

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Yes the eyes that gives precog, Amaterasu, genjutsu, PS and above all have the ability to control all the tailed beast. And if you're laughing at such a comparison then there is no point talking to you.
@Bold I am not a sausage fap....=D



And yet Naruto didn't know he could fly or shapeshift the TSBs to defend himself.

EMS gives the user PS and other improvements over existing MS abilities

If you understand yang kurama having very little chakra due to it being used by Naruto, Madara and Kaguya then
Naruto did all the major fighting against Kaguya while also providing a stable TSB footing for Sasuke to be able to contribute and thus he was already exhausted and the taile beast didn't give all of their chakra to Naruto and Naruto didn't use even one tailed beast ability against Sasuke. So again, Sasuke had the chakra depleted 8.5 bijuus and Naruto had chakra depleted 0.5 Kurama. So chakra of 8.5 bijuu would still be more than the chakra of yin kurama even if he molds chakra for Naruto. Naruto has run out of chakra and yang Kurama wasn't always able to mold chakra in time so definitely chakra molding too isn't instant.
All of Sasuke's powers is dependent on his own chakra and skill

Naruto's comes from a combined effort of him and his Buddy Kurama

This is why its 2v1

But since you are denial here is some manga facts:

btw for the faps that like to compare

Itachi's Eyes to Kurama

When Sasuke runs low on chakra

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When Naruto runs low on chakra

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Feel free to use this when Naruto wankers compare Eyes to a Sentient being lol
 

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Theoretically I don't even think one could use ALL the bijuu chakra at once in one single blow.

Because everything that lives and grow is from chakra so that alone disproves a lot of you faps.

Frankly I only think Sasuke used probably 20% in total.
 

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Nope. according to databook SPSM has nothing to do with bijuu influence. It was gift from the sage.
There's different versions of SPSM just like there is with BM.

BM



BSM




SPSM



SPSM + 9 Biju chakra



SPSM + Kyuubi chakra=what we got in Gaiden & Boruto.

Having and using isnt the same thing. Sasuke fans must realize this.
If he didn't user their chakra then he would have never ran out.

Yeah. Relying on a jutsu to be cast at you so you can stand still for a few seconds to absorb it into your body while leaving yourself open to attacks is completely analogous to a monster inside of you giving you chakra after a bit with no effort on your part and no requirements to be fulfilled.

Also, surprise, he unlocked it at a point in the fight that it's optimal use had already passed.



I'm honestly baffled that Naruto fans seriously believe that Sasuke absorbed 100% of all 8 Bijuu's chakra.

These morons complain all day about Naruto and the Kyuubi being low on chakra during their fight, yet also believe that 1% Kyuubi and 1% Naruto with VotE Nature Chakra equals 100% of Bijuu's 1-8. Are they retarded?
Exactly, they also speak as if power level means everything. Intelligence doesn't matter, tactics don't matter, & strategy doesn't matter...

Yes the eyes that gives precog, Amaterasu, genjutsu, PS and above all have the ability to control all the tailed beast. And if you're laughing at such a comparison then there is no point talking to you.
@Bold I am not a sausage fap....=D



And yet Naruto didn't know he could fly or shapeshift the TSBs to defend himself.

EMS gives the user PS and other improvements over existing MS abilities

If you understand yang kurama having very little chakra due to it being used by Naruto, Madara and Kaguya then
Naruto did all the major fighting against Kaguya while also providing a stable TSB footing for Sasuke to be able to contribute and thus he was already exhausted and the taile beast didn't give all of their chakra to Naruto and Naruto didn't use even one tailed beast ability against Sasuke. So again, Sasuke had the chakra depleted 8.5 bijuus and Naruto had chakra depleted 0.5 Kurama. So chakra of 8.5 bijuu would still be more than the chakra of yin kurama even if he molds chakra for Naruto. Naruto has run out of chakra and yang Kurama wasn't always able to mold chakra in time so definitely chakra molding too isn't instant.
- Did Naruto have to train to learn how to fly? Or did he just do it perfectly once he was aware that he could? Universal Comprehension of All things give the user instant mastery, not instant knowledge.

- PS seems to be possible through Rinnegan due to the increase of chakra levels. Improvements, not instant mastery.

- Sasuke also fought Kaguya offscreen whilst Naruto chatted with Obito. By the end of the battle his left eye actually bled from overuse. The Biju's power can be used for the users own techniques. So just because he didn't use their special traits doesn't mean he didn't use their power. For example, Sasuke used their chakra to form his Lightning.
 
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Yeah. Relying on a jutsu to be cast at you so you can stand still for a few seconds to absorb it into your body while leaving yourself open to attacks is completely analogous to a monster inside of you giving you chakra after a bit with no effort on your part and no requirements to be fulfilled.

Also, surprise, he unlocked it at a point in the fight that it's optimal use had already passed.



I'm honestly baffled that Naruto fans seriously believe that Sasuke absorbed 100% of all 8 Bijuu's chakra.

These morons complain all day about Naruto and the Kyuubi being low on chakra during their fight, yet also believe that 1% Kyuubi and 1% Naruto with VotE Nature Chakra equals 100% of Bijuu's 1-8. Are they retarded?
no requirements?
naruto had to over come hatred so kurama wouldn't kill him
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no one in the nv universe could get use of kurama's full power like naruto
and I was surprised about how quick and easy sasuke was able to use six path jutsu after not having the rinnegan that long at all,enough to even absorb all bijuu chakra
 

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Yeah. Relying on a jutsu to be cast at you so you can stand still for a few seconds to absorb it into your body while leaving yourself open to attacks is completely analogous to a monster inside of you giving you chakra after a bit with no effort on your part and no requirements to be fulfilled.

Also, surprise, he unlocked it at a point in the fight that it's optimal use had already passed.



I'm honestly baffled that Naruto fans seriously believe that Sasuke absorbed 100% of all 8 Bijuu's chakra.

These morons complain all day about Naruto and the Kyuubi being low on chakra during their fight, yet also believe that 1% Kyuubi and 1% Naruto with VotE Nature Chakra equals 100% of Bijuu's 1-8. Are they retarded?
Lol ikr if he did the bijuu's would have went to sleep. Even then it would have been impossible the bijuu's was already low on chakra which was why Kaguya needed to take chakra from people inside IT. Sasuke used only portions of the bijuu's chakra and everyone wanna say he used all of it.
Having and using isnt the same thing. Sasuke fans must realize this.
That moment when he was using the bijuu's chakra to actually have that mode on. Plus the TSB. He was using their chakra just not their abilities.
 

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Theoretically I don't even think one could use ALL the bijuu chakra at once in one single blow.

Because everything that lives and grow is from chakra so that alone disproves a lot of you faps.

Frankly I only think Sasuke used probably 20% in total.
So just because he didn't use their special traits doesn't mean he didn't use their power. For example, Sasuke used their chakra to form his Lightning.
Sasuke did use all the power he received from the Bijuu.

The problem though is that Bijuu are weak as their own separate entities. They only unlock their full potential when they have a host. On top of that the Bijuu that Sasuke used were in a Genjutsu meaning whatever chakra they had available (probably wasn't much) was sucked into Sasuke's Susanoo. Its not like they were kneading chakra.

Furthermore, people forget that Kurama has more chakra than all the other beast combined so since he has a host he is using his full potential. so in reality Naruto's Kurama > All other captured tailed beast
 

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naruto had to over come hatred so kurama wouldn't kill him
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no one in the nv universe could get use of kurama's full power like naruto
and I was surprised about how quick and easy sasuke was able to use six path jutsu after not having the rinnegan that long at all,enough to even absorb all bijuu chakra
Kishimoto specifically pointed out Sasuke's inexperience with the Rinnegan via Kyuubi, bringing up how he casted Genjutsu + Chibaku Tensei on all the Biju with absolute ease greatly supports him.

If an inexperienced Sasuke uses the Rinnegan so well that it looks like he mastered it, then clearly once he actually does gain more experience/masters it, then he could do alot better.

Anyway, Genjutsu is his Sharingan's ability. His Rinnegan is a combination of the Sharingan & Rinnegan. Hebi Sasuke had a 4/5 in Genjutsu in the third databook. Shee - a Genjutsu user, stated he was a genuis based on his skill with it.

As for Chibaku Tensei - he saw it in action when Madara performed it, that's where he learned the Hand Seal & exactly what the technique does. Furthermore, Black Zetsu told them that after extracting it's chakra & creating the Biju, the Sage used the Juubi's body itself as the core, (rather than a black orb - which Sasuke replicated 10 chapters later with the Biju) & he got the feel of it down from sealing Kaguya.

Also, he learned of Preta Path when he casted Amaterasu on Madara, Naruto told him the Rinnegan has the ability to absorb all Ninjutsu. Later he also saw Kaguya absorbed his Amaterasu when he used it to distract her.

If Obito, Madara, & Kaguya used more of it's abilities, then he would have learned them, & with more experience through training he would master them.

Sasuke did use all the power he received from the Bijuu.

The problem though is that Bijuu are weak as their own separate entities. They only unlock their full potential when they have a host. On top of that the Bijuu that Sasuke used were in a Genjutsu meaning whatever chakra they had available (probably wasn't much) was sucked into Sasuke's Susanoo. Its not like they were kneading chakra.

Furthermore, people forget that Kurama has more chakra than all the other beast combined so since he has a host he is using his full potential. so in reality Naruto's Kurama > All other captured tailed beast
I didn't say that he didn't. Icha was claiming that since Naruto didn't used the Biju's special traits, that means Naruto didn't use their power. Which is dumb because Sasuke used their chakra but didn't use their traits.
 
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no requirements?
naruto had to over come hatred so kurama wouldn't kill him
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hatred makes sasuke stronger
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"his hatred has made him more powerful"
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no one in the nv universe could get use of kurama's full power like naruto
and I was surprised about how quick and easy sasuke was able to use six path jutsu after not having the rinnegan that long at all,enough to even absorb all bijuu chakra
Boo hoo, Naruto had to give himself a hug so he can gain the power of a god. Must have been rough.

Compared to that, killing your best friend and then your brother would be nothing. I can't even comprehend the emotional toll acquiring inner peace must cost. Though, whatever it is, it's certainly higher than watching your entire family get butchered by your brother, then realizing that the village you grew up in actually ordered your entire family to be massacred, wanting you dead as well because of who you are rather than what you represent.

He sure has come a long way indeed.

I see where you were confused though, as it wasn't clear that I was referring to real requirements, not just plot hindrances that can be cleared up in less than 2 chapters.
 

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I'm undefeated with these arguments.

Facts > Fanfic

And even if Sasuke did have all "8.5" The fox is the strongest which further means your shet is even more invalid as an excuse.

Also Naruto has more chakra let alone sage mode, sage's chakra, and the all powerful kurama...disadvantage? Betch where?

I love how these faps after every new chapter or some shet Naruto does something amazing and crazy strong (example..cut the god tree, speed towards madara, punch Kaguya, etc.) and they run to make threads...thousands explaining how Naruto is so much more powerful with or without the fox then come with these bs excuses in crunch time.

Threads like: Naruto has more chakra control (uses scan to disprove bs years later which is this thread...it's the fox hush that crap up)

Naruto has more raw power (once again fox and sage mode which is NE ,,, basically also the bijuu so hush that bs up his raw punch is weak)

Naruto is faster (gets disproved with scans of many people being faster..not even his speed if u get rid of the fox cloak so hush tf up)

Naruto has better reflexes (disproved with sasuke owning him many times despite the fact of many inconsistent hype feats)

Need I say more -_-
 
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