Yardrat and Metamoran on the universe 7 team

[Meowazziel]

Regarding the universe 7 lineup.
Two races came to mind, who could have been an interesting pick to add to the team instead of one or two others that are currently joined.

Planet Yardrat,
is the planet where Goku learned techniques like the instant transmission from the inhabitants.
It wouldnt be too troublesome to design this Yardrat fighter either.
As the design of that race already exists from dragonball z.
Their fighting style somewhat as well.
The most suitable one of their planet could have joined the team
and go back to his/her homeplanet after the tournament.
So no worries what to do with the character afterwards either.

Another option is someone from the Metamorans.
Goku met someone from this race in other world and was taught the fusion dance. They are a race who is from universe 7 too.

I think it could have been cool to make both or one of these two races join for the tournament.

Who should have been left out to make someone from Yardrat, a Metamoran or both join the team?

Although right now I have come to peace with the universe 7 lineup.
This has to do with a few things.
The tournament team based battle royal no flying techniques, no killing, no weapons format,
the small time window in which the tournament starts,
the old z fighters becoming relevant in a tournament again
and the danger for causing chaos by letting more planets/races in uni 7 know about
possibly getting erased if not winning.

So the Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Buu, Piccolo, #17, #18, Krillin, Tien and Roshi team therefore kinda seems right.
Quite some different races in this team, which is good.
Also interesting is that over half of the team used to be an enemy for a while (Vegeta, Buu, #17, #18, Piccolo and Tien).
Even though they all live on earth the team has only two fullblood earthlings (Krillin and Roshi).

A battle royal with 10 members for each team and 8 teams at the same time.
No flying techniques allowed. Killing not allowed. Weapons not allowed.
This suddenly brings more strategy and teamwork to the table and it can be important therefore to know each other well (Most of the people in uni 7 team know each other really well or have at least met/met in combat.
Even #17 is somewhat aware of Buu as he gave his energy for the spirit bomb to help Goku beat Buu in dragonball z.

Teamwork and techniques become extra important in this tournament, where powerlvl would play a bigger role in a 1v1 format than this battle royal team version.
This all leads to that to some extend you can get away in this tournament with a few members having a lower power lvl,
so that people like master Roshi and Krillin for example can be useful and do well.
Krillin seems to be all pumped up again and training hard. Gohan even had a drop of sweat on his forehead in the preview.
Krillin also invented a new technique.
I am glad to hear that he has, as it will increase the certainty of him being useful.
He is after all the strongest pureblooded earthling and after a long while, should have a moment to shine again.

Again I have come to peace with the current uni7 team lineup, but think that it could have been cool if the two mentioned races would have been part of the team
and I am curious what others think about that.



Do you also feel okay right now with the uni7 team lineup nowadays?
What do you think about the two mentioned races?
Would they have been a good pick?

 

[Styles]

Didn't Goku say that they're not that strong and that the people who taught him IT wasn't fighters? Don't remember but if he did then it'll be pointless and a great disadvantage imo. Especially since fusion is illegal in this tournament.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Yeah Goku did say they weren't strong though. The uni 7 team better have been getting stronger, this would be a good chance for character development skill wise. Make them somewhat relevant again

 

[Aladel]

It's a shame, accounting how the actual team 7 is consisted of entirely z fighters. The yardrats were confirmed to be physically incompetent with others, and so the metamoran race are invidually not so capable either. I guess the kaioshin is really to blame.

 

[Meowazziel]

Didn't Goku say that they're not that strong and that the people who taught him IT wasn't fighters? Don't remember but if he did then it'll be pointless and a great disadvantage imo. Especially since fusion is illegal in this tournament.

Who said that fusion is not allowed?

Its 8 teams of 10 members in the arena at the same time.
Why would someone not be allowed to fuse with the fusion dance in this team battle royal format?

What I know that Goku said about people from Yardrat is that they werent very strong (at least physically) but had amazing techniques and they liked to eat a lot.
Among those amazing techniques was IT.
In that case they could still be fighters/useful in the tournament.

Roshi isnt exactky strong anymore in todays standards compared to other dragonball super fighters but Gohan and Goku still consider Roshi useful for the tournament. Among reasons his tricky techniques.

So with that in mind a Yardrat member could have been useful?

 

[Styles]

Who said that fusion is not allowed?

Its 8 teams of 10 members in the arena at the same time.
Why would someone not be allowed to fuse with the fusion dance in this team battle royal format?

What I know that Goku said about people from Yardrat is that they werent very strong (at least physically) but had amazing techniques and they liked to eat a lot.
Among those amazing techniques was IT.
In that case they could still be fighters/useful in the tournament.

Roshi isnt exactky strong anymore in todays standards compared to other dragonball super fighters but Gohan and Goku still consider Roshi useful for the tournament. Among reasons his tricky techniques.

So with that in mind a Yardrat member could have been useful?

They said this tournament is where a fighter shows his strength and his alone. Fusion boosts the user's power level and stamina which Whis said was illegal in the tournament.

Could be true about Roshi but he was able to take out some 1st or 2nd rank officers from frieza's army with easy to mid dif until he got tired and went low on stamina so you might have a point.....would've been funny to see Jaco participate tho lol

 

[Nobel]

Who said that fusion is not allowed?

Its 8 teams of 10 members in the arena at the same time.
Why would someone not be allowed to fuse with the fusion dance in this team battle royal format?

What I know that Goku said about people from Yardrat is that they werent very strong (at least physically) but had amazing techniques and they liked to eat a lot.
Among those amazing techniques was IT.
In that case they could still be fighters/useful in the tournament.

Roshi isnt exactky strong anymore in todays standards compared to other dragonball super fighters but Gohan and Goku still consider Roshi useful for the tournament. Among reasons his tricky techniques.

So with that in mind a Yardrat member could have been useful?

Fusion is strictly forbidden, havent you followed the grand priest's words at all? If fusion was allowed then that would be outright said on the spot. The fusion dance has only been perfected by goten and trunks thus far, on screen at least. There is no time for that dance on the middle of the fight, if fusion was allowed then it would be through the potara earrings. Especially when the kaioshins are attending as spectators. Of course if it was too happen, it be on the last part of the battle royal.

 

[Meowazziel]

Fusion is strictly forbidden, havent you followed the grand priest's words at all? If fusion was allowed then that would be outright said on the spot. The fusion dance has only been perfected by goten and trunks thus far, on screen at least. There is no time for that dance on the middle of the fight, if fusion was allowed then it would be through the potara earrings. Especially when the kaioshins are attending as spectators. Of course if it was too happen, it be on the last part of the battle royal.

That is not how it works.

The grand priest mentioned the list of things that are not allowed.
Flying, weapons/items (f.e. sensu beans) and killing.
The rest is allowed for all we know.

He did not mention a list of what is allowed as there is no need for that when he has already mentioned that which is not allowed and thus logic dictates that the rest is allowed.
Therefore he did not have to mention the fusion dance as being allowed.

Besides the fusion dance wouldnt be that hard to do with 80 fighter chaos and teammates assisting in creating opportunity to do the dance and an opponent likely not having seen the technique before.
You could use techniques to assist in completing the dance as well like the after image technique.

Apparently you havent listened to the grand priest words yourself as weapons are not allowed.
Whis later on expanded upon this with items like senzu beans being forbidden. In a sense a weaponitem.

Obviously fusion with an item like potara earrings would be using items/weapons and thus fobidden.

The supreme kais being there is irrelevant for the earrings being allowed or not if they fall under the grand priest list of what is not allowed (items/weapons). The supreme kais dont make the rules for the tournament. At best they could suggest the allowance of the earrings and in that case Zeno/Grandpriest still has to agree or not.

Allowing the earrings would also be super lame as everyone can equip an earring.
That requires no effort, training, development of technique etc.
Its also not likely that the writers will add potara fusions and thus more characters tournament wide in all those universes.

The fusion dance however is a technique that you need to be able to master and which likely exists only in uni7 and 6.
So the fusion dance would not result in fusions all over the place either.

Maybe the fusion dance is not allowed but in that case this has not been expressed or at the very least not clearly.

They said this tournament is where a fighter shows his strength and his alone. Fusion boosts the user's power level and stamina which Whis said was illegal in the tournament.

Could be true about Roshi but he was able to take out some 1st or 2nd rank officers from frieza's army with easy to mid dif until he got tired and went low on stamina so you might have a point.....would've been funny to see Jaco participate tho lol

Fusiondance may not be allowed but that isnt clear necessarily from Whis his words.

Whis talked about item boosters like sensu beans.
The Fusion dance is still a technique using your own power to execute it.
Not an item that you consume or weapon that you use.

A fusion dance technique is in a sense not very different in using teamwork for a technique like charging up an energy blast together.

Jacco is indeed a funny character but I rather not see him participate in the tournament.
He doesnt seem to have any interesting abilities except ultra eyesight.
He cant use his weapon. On a universe scale he isnt very strong either and he is quite the coward.

Him being funny on the sidelines will suffice.

 

[Nobel]

That is not how it works.

The grand priest mentioned the list of things that are not allowed.
Flying, weapons/items (f.e. sensu beans) and killing.
The rest is allowed for all we know.

He did not mention a list of what is allowed as there is no need for that when he has already mentioned that which is not allowed and thus logic dictates that the rest is allowed.
Therefore he did not have to mention the fusion dance as being allowed.

Besides the fusion dance wouldnt be that hard to do with 80 fighter chaos and teammates assisting in creating opportunity to do the dance and an opponent likely not having seen the technique before.
You could use techniques to assist in completing the dance as well like the after image technique.

Apparently you havent listened to the grand priest words yourself as weapons are not allowed.
Whis later on expanded upon this with items like senzu beans being forbidden. In a sense a weaponitem.

Obviously fusion with an item like potara earrings would be using items/weapons and thus fobidden.

The supreme kais being there is irrelevant for the earrings being allowed or not if they fall under the grand priest list of what is not allowed (items/weapons). The supreme kais dont make the rules for the tournament. At best they could suggest the allowance of the earrings and in that case Zeno/Grandpriest still has to agree or not.

Allowing the earrings would also be super lame as everyone can equip an earring.
That requires no effort, training, development of technique etc.
Its also not likely that the writers will add potara fusions and thus more characters tournament wide in all those universes.

The fusion dance however is a technique that you need to be able to master and which likely exists only in uni7 and 6.
So the fusion dance would not result in fusions all over the place either.

Maybe the fusion dance is not allowed but in that case this has not been expressed or at the very least not clearly.

Fusiondance may not be allowed but that isnt clear necessarily from Whis his words.

Whis talked about item boosters like sensu beans.
The Fusion dance is still a technique using your own power to execute it.
Not an item that you consume or weapon that you use.

A fusion dance technique is in a sense not very different in using teamwork for a technique like charging up an energy blast together.

Jacco is indeed a funny character but I rather not see him participate in the tournament.
He doesnt seem to have any interesting abilities except ultra eyesight.
He cant use his weapon. On a universe scale he isnt very strong either and he is quite the coward.

Him being funny on the sidelines will suffice.

Lmfao the potara earrings are not equipment that you can use in battle, it's a divine artifact with the ability of fusion and bring forth a entirely new being. How exactly can you use the earrings as a offensive move in battle? No you can not, it's decoration and proof of kaioshin rank in some cases. It's proper fusion but by the use of earrings, nothing else. It's like saying that Vegeta can't wear gloves or armor because that gives him defence.

And like I said before, no one in universe 7 team would attempt the dance especially Vegeta. Oh and he never practiced it before either, they only got like 40 hours was it? Maybe piccolo would since he is a namekian. Not that prideful.

 

[Styles]

That is not how it works.

The grand priest mentioned the list of things that are not allowed.
Flying, weapons/items (f.e. sensu beans) and killing.
The rest is allowed for all we know.

He did not mention a list of what is allowed as there is no need for that when he has already mentioned that which is not allowed and thus logic dictates that the rest is allowed.
Therefore he did not have to mention the fusion dance as being allowed.

Besides the fusion dance wouldnt be that hard to do with 80 fighter chaos and teammates assisting in creating opportunity to do the dance and an opponent likely not having seen the technique before.
You could use techniques to assist in completing the dance as well like the after image technique.

Apparently you havent listened to the grand priest words yourself as weapons are not allowed.
Whis later on expanded upon this with items like senzu beans being forbidden. In a sense a weaponitem.

Obviously fusion with an item like potara earrings would be using items/weapons and thus fobidden.

The supreme kais being there is irrelevant for the earrings being allowed or not if they fall under the grand priest list of what is not allowed (items/weapons). The supreme kais dont make the rules for the tournament. At best they could suggest the allowance of the earrings and in that case Zeno/Grandpriest still has to agree or not.

Allowing the earrings would also be super lame as everyone can equip an earring.
That requires no effort, training, development of technique etc.
Its also not likely that the writers will add potara fusions and thus more characters tournament wide in all those universes.

The fusion dance however is a technique that you need to be able to master and which likely exists only in uni7 and 6.
So the fusion dance would not result in fusions all over the place either.

Maybe the fusion dance is not allowed but in that case this has not been expressed or at the very least not clearly.

Fusiondance may not be allowed but that isnt clear necessarily from Whis his words.

Whis talked about item boosters like sensu beans.
The Fusion dance is still a technique using your own power to execute it.
Not an item that you consume or weapon that you use.

A fusion dance technique is in a sense not very different in using teamwork for a technique like charging up an energy blast together.

Jacco is indeed a funny character but I rather not see him participate in the tournament.
He doesnt seem to have any interesting abilities except ultra eyesight.
He cant use his weapon. On a universe scale he isnt very strong either and he is quite the coward.

Him being funny on the sidelines will suffice.

Odd i didn't get a notification to your quote. He didn't but it should be known tbh. Fusion can be considered team work but say the people doing fusion is beat up bad and then they fuse they'll have full stamina plus added strength that's illegal in this tournament since it's bringing a new fighter into the fight even tho temporary.

Speaking of that i wonder if only gods and the fighters get to watch the fight or do anyone that wanna go can see it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Its already confirmed the line up of U7, so cut your tl:dr post

 

[Meowazziel]

Its already confirmed the line up of U7, so cut your tl:dr post

I already know that the line up is confirmed.
I mention that in my post and that I have come to peace with the lineup,
but that I still wanted to share the suggestion of these 2 races though and read peoples views about it.

You dont have to read posts that you consider to long to read.
There is no point to reply though if you havent read it.
Nor is there any point in telling people to stop posting, just because you have an issue with the length,
as there are more people on the forum than just you.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I already know that the line up is confirmed.
I mention that in my post and that I have come to peace with the lineup,
but that I still wanted to share the suggestion of these 2 races though and read peoples views about it.

You dont have to read posts that you consider to long to read.
There is no point to reply though if you havent read it.
Nor is there any point in telling people to stop posting, just because you have an issue with the length,
as there are more people on the forum than just you.

I'm not stopping you from posting but 'cut' the length of your post like make a point, deep point.

Regarding to some of your point, non-earing fusion is allow by Grand Priest even though he never specifically mentioned it bcus it is not an external weapon that having no connection at all with your ability. In battle royal U can team up with your team mate to take down single opponent without breaking the match rule.

Also natural fusion has time limit where I think its fair giving that it not last longer thus the user cant easily defeats all opponents. More powerful the fusion, the time limit is shorter as experienced by SSB Vegito

 

[Meowazziel]

I'm not stopping you from posting but 'cut' the length of your post like make a point, deep point.

Regarding to some of your point, non-earing fusion is allow by Grand Priest even though he never specifically mentioned it bcus it is not an external weapon that having no connection at all with your ability. In battle royal U can team up with your team mate to take down single opponent without breaking the match rule.

Also natural fusion has time limit where I think its fair giving that it not last longer thus the user cant easily defeats all opponents. More powerful the fusion, the time limit is shorter as experienced by SSB Vegito

This tone is a lot better than than the cut your tldr one line
and you not having read the post (which I could conclude out of the ''Its already confirmed the line up of U7''.

I shall see if I reduce the length of similar posts next time or see if I can write some of my thoughts later on in the thread instead. There is not really a deep point to make in this topic though.



Exactly nothing implies that fusion dance fusion wont be allowed. Glad you agree.

A good moment to bring Gogeta into cannon?

Or possibly a new fusion we havent seen before.
Maybe a fusion between people that havent fused together before.

 

[Ansatsuken]

This tone is a lot better than than the cut your tldr one line
and you not having read the post (which I could conclude out of the ''Its already confirmed the line up of U7''.

I shall see if I reduce the length of similar posts next time or see if I can write some of my thoughts later on in the thread instead. There is not really a deep point to make in this topic though.



Exactly nothing implies that fusion dance fusion wont be allowed. Glad you agree.

A good moment to bring Gogeta into cannon?

Or possibly a new fusion we havent seen before.
Maybe a fusion between people that havent fused together before.

Gogeta, I think author need to make it happen, bring him into the battle. But the problem is, to bring out Gogeta, Goku and Vegeta as example need to search for time and space for the ritual.

They can make it out if their opponents dont have any clue what they're trying to do but if they know, it will be difficult for Goku and Vegeta. xd

 

[Meowazziel]

Gogeta, I think author need to make it happen, bring him into the battle. But the problem is, to bring out Gogeta, Goku and Vegeta as example need to search for time and space for the ritual.

They can make it out if their opponents dont have any clue what they're trying to do but if they know, it will be difficult for Goku and Vegeta. xd

Yeah they need some time. As Vegeta probably hasnt learned the dance yet. Room of spirit and time could help.

I think that most universes dont know about such a thing as fusion dance existing.
Maybe universe 6 knows?

Although the FU-SION-HA is a dead giveaway lol .
Maybe not if you do it fast enough so that opponents cant intervene.

There will also be quite some things going on with 80 fighters on the stage.
They could possibly do the mirror image technique like they did vs Omega Shenron in GT.
There are also teammates to assist.

The problem is though that Goku will likely be a target from the start.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yeah they need some time. As Vegeta probably hasnt learned the dance yet. Room of spirit and time could help.

I think that most universes dont know about such a thing as fusion dance existing.
Maybe universe 6 knows?

Although the FU-SION-HA is a dead giveaway lol .
Maybe not if you do it fast enough so that opponents cant intervene.

There will also be quite some things going on with 80 fighters on the stage.
They could possibly do the mirror image technique like they did vs Omega Shenron in GT.
There are also teammates to assist.

The problem is though that Goku will likely be a target from the start.

Maybe Solar Flare x100 can help xd

 

[Meowazziel]

Maybe Solar Flare x100 can help xd

Haha yeah.
That would be quite the entrance.
After the bright light goes down Gogeta is standing there.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Haha yeah.
That would be quite the entrance.
After the bright light goes down Gogeta is standing there.

Lmao, perfect and Zenos will complain to Grand Preist they could see nothing XD