How different would team 7 be if Hinata was team instead of Sakura in part 1?

[Amenotejikara]

About the same but worst and weaker

 

[Mellanoma]

That is a different debate and a moot argument. Also, Neji would have been a far better choice than Hinata in Team 7. At least, that way, there wouldn't have been one useless, token female in the Team.

You keep calling Hinata useless but based on feats she always stepped up when she needed to. the only time her shyness showed was when Naruto was around but in combat situations she always held her own.

Naruto gave her the cou

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Hinata came off as shy and reserved in the series but when it came down to it she stepped up every single time.

 

[Made in Heaven]

That is a different debate and a moot argument. Also, Neji would have been a far better choice than Hinata in Team 7. At least, that way, there wouldn't have been one useless, token female in the Team.

The way I see it, both Neji and Hinata had enough potential as characters to have development on par with Gaara and Shikamaru before they were neglected in Part 2, so at the least they'd be major support characters rather than minor support like Kiba or Ino. Whether or not that constitutes enough to be an Mc idk. Of course, if we ARE ignoring the whole 2 guys 1 girl thing rule, yes, I much would prefer Neji as a third MC over Hinata, since he had more potential in terms of development than Hinata, though Hinata herself also would be relevant through her relation to Neji & Hyuga in such a case. I have so many headcanon scenarios in my head about the sort of things that Neji/Hinata could have gone through if they were given spot light. :lol I even hope to make a thread of how Neji could have been a more relevant character, potentially an MC

The manga would've done much better without Sakura.

No one should deny this. It's an author-confirmed fact. Dude even said he REGRETTED her existence.

 

[Amenotejikara]

You keep calling Hinata useless but based on feats she always stepped up when she needed to. the only time her shyness showed was when Naruto was around but in combat situations she always held her own.

Naruto gave her the cou

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Hinata came off as shy and reserved in the series but when it came down to it she stepped up every single time.

**** out of here. Useless pts sakura saved sasuke twice.

 

[Styles]

Already explained this, pal. Kishimoto admitted he didn't develop Sakura because he knew people hated her and knew people wouldn't take an interest in her if the manga focused on her, unlike with Hinata, where he knew she was popular and kept getting popular even with her massive absence from the manga at times.

Outside of that, there's the simple fact that Hinata's character can go in SO MANY more directions than Sakura's when considering all of her potential bonds and powers.



Hinata spends her time training instead of pining over a guy all the time, Kurenai even notes how hard she pushes herself, while Sakura was all Sasuke this Sasuke that and only started training once her crush left. So no, if she was in the team, she wouldn't be fangirling Naruto all the time lmao. That is not the kind of person she is AT ALL and its amazing you would even say that. Her goal is to become stronger and Naruto is simply someone she admires as an example of persaverance, Sakura wants to get in Sasuke's pants.


Gotta love how Sakura can only be useful for Sasuke by ignoring everyone else's powers just to make her useful. And we're talking about part 1, pal.

Hinata trained to get Naruto's attention and so he can acknowledge her. If they was on the same team she would be just like Sakura was in part 1. That's not how she is? Everytime Hinata get screen time by Naruto he shys away or pass out. Only time she ever stayed firm was during pain and the war. And even then he was all she was thinking about.

 

[Nick01]

NaruHina is canon

Obviously.

Hinata would have made a much, much better heroine. She literally has every thing needed to do so, but was held back due to being a side character. If she was a main character, things would have been different.

Powers, character arc, personality, backstory. All of Hinata's are perfect for a heroine. Not to mention all the half-hearted Hyuga plots that were ignored or done poorly would get better treatment.



Who says Hinata would constantly be blushing at watching Naruto if she was an MC? You act like her character wouldn't change at all.

She'd have been a much better choice ofc and nobody would've to deal with Sakura's annoying personality and ofc more room for better NaruHina development.

My thoughts exactly. Add the fact that the whole Team 7 vs Kaguya fight would've actually made sense.

Anyway you slice it, Hinata being on that team would've made for something better than what we actually received.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

My thoughts exactly. Add the fact that the whole Team 7 vs Kaguya fight would've actually made sense.

Anyway you slice it, Hinata being on that team would've made for something better than what we actually received.

Yep the Kaguya fight too could've been interesting with Kaguya and Hinata's byakugans.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Hinata trained to get Naruto's attention and so he can acknowledge her.

Never denied this, its the same as Naruto wanting Sasuke's acknowledgment. That's not the same as pining over Sasuke like a brain dead fangirl while refusing to train, neither of which Hinata did.

If they was on the same team she would be just like Sakura was in part 1.

Exact opposite personalities, yet somehow she'd act the exact same?

Everytime Hinata get screen time by Naruto he shys away or pass out.

Passing out only happened once. And I don't see how shying away has to do with anything. You said she'd be the same as Sakura.

Only time she ever stayed firm was during pain and the war. And even then he was all she was thinking about.

And in her fight with Neji. And during her talk with Naruto. And during the Itachi Pursuit mission. She got over her lack of confidence during her fight with Neji, at least a large chunk of it, it was blatantly pointed out by Kurenai and Neji that she was never as determined or confident in herself prior to that fight. As an MC, her confidence would have simply continued to grow more and more after such a fight.

This statement of yours just disproves your previous quote. She's always shy yet latter half of the manga shows otherwise. As such, if she was an MC, we would have seen more of her going from being shy to more assertive and confident. What's not to get about that? Hinata's shyness clearly diminished throughout the series, and yeah, it was done in a bad way since it's almost all off-panel, but as an MC, it would have been done differently.

Hinata's relationship with her family, her Byakugan, her role as the next Hyuga leader, her potential moveset, her bonds with Naruto and potentially Sasuke (given their similarities) all are things she has over Sakura that would have made her a better heroine, even her personality is better suited for people like Naruto and Sasuke, because she doesn't lash out and mock orphans on a whim and doesn't try to emotionally guilt trip her team mates.

 

[Hakke]

What advantage? She isn't Neji. And her part I skills are abysmal.

When used by Neji, you mean? One tap doesn't do anything and it's Orochimaru we are talking about, not Ino or Sakura who would have lost to her in Part I.

It was targeted at everyone who thinks she could have added anything to the plot. Face it, she would have been just as absurd as Sakura.

@bold ,I understand your hate , but don't let your hate blind you. A gentle fist user can damage with the slightest touch

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,and he can easily finish his enemy by injecting chakra with one tap pointed to one of the major organs (I.e the heart , the brain , the lungs)

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so.. all it takes from Hinata is a mere tap to win a fight , based on the fact that she is a gentle fist user.

But I agree, Orichimaru is no fool. He is a sanin he can easily toy with her just like Pain , but I don't think that he would've killed her though.

That is a different debate and a moot argument. Also, Neji would have been a far better choice than Hinata in Team 7. At least, that way, there wouldn't have been one useless, token female in the Team.

I agree, team 7 would've been much better without a female, Lee, heck even Kiba or Shino are far better choice for team 7 than any female char.

But I really like the idea of Neji being a member of team 7 , lol. Better than dying like a fodder for the sake of a lame pairing development tbh

But to be fair, both Hinata and Sakura had really the potential to be great characters, if just Kishi didn't suck hard at writing female chars

 

[Melanin]

Team 7 would've been weaker.

 

[King Of Pop]

Hinata is garbage and i don't see that changing if she was on the team afterall its still kishi and a female and we all know how that is. not to mention its not like the little screen-time she has, she does something extremely noteworthy(compared to someone like neji for example) to the point were you can make the case that as an mc things will be better. no if it isn't naruto obsession, its her being poor in combat, all which would simply magnify if given more spotlight. mentioning stuffs like background or byakugan or whatever is pointless as we all know all that would not be explored.

Your points on she being nice to everyone is funny, as if being nice is a guage as to the performance of a character and her effect on a team

 

[Char Aznable]

Hinata would've played more of a role in the Part 1 arcs for sure.

Land of Waves arc: Against Zabuza's hidden mist jutsu, Hinata's Byakugan would've been a huge asset in tracking him. Compared to Sakura who just stood around while Sasuke, Naruto and Kakashi did all the fighting against Zabuza and Haku for the 2 fights.

Forest of Death Arc: Hinata's chance to brave would've been the same time as Sakura's chance to be was. Against the Sound Genin.

Chunin Exam versus rounds: Same, Hinata vs Neji.

Retrieve Sasuke Arc: Naruto doesn't make a promise to bring back Sasuke, and events play out as they did before.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Hinata is garbage and i don't see that changing if she was on the team afterall its still kishi and a female and we all know how that is. not to mention its not like the little screen-time she has, she does something extremely noteworthy(compared to someone like neji for example) to the point were you can make the case that as an mc things will be better. no if it isn't naruto obsession, its her being poor in combat, all which would simply magnify if given more spotlight. mentioning stuffs like background or byakugan or whatever is pointless as we all know all that would not be explored.

Your points on she being nice to everyone is funny, as if being nice is a guage as to the performance of a character and her effect on a team

About the same but worst and weaker

Hinata trained to get Naruto's attention and so he can acknowledge her. If they was on the same team she would be just like Sakura was in part 1. That's not how she is? Everytime Hinata get screen time by Naruto he shys away or pass out. Only time she ever stayed firm was during pain and the war. And even then he was all she was thinking about.

part 1 hinata >>>> part 1 sakura objectively

 

[shelke]

@bold ,I understand your hate , but don't let your hate blind you. A gentle fist user can damage with the slightest touch

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,and he can easily finish his enemy by injecting chakra with one tap pointed to one of the major organs (I.e the heart , the brain , the lungs)

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so.. all it takes from Hinata is a mere tap to win a fight , based on the fact that she is a gentle fist user.

I never stated that it can't damage anything. The point is skill. Hinata lacks it. She always has. And, a tap has to be well-placed and go for the critical areas for it to make a difference as you stated. Take the example of Chidori. It's literally a one-hit assassination tech, and it would have easily killed Itachi in part I had it connected. But, Sasuke lacked the skill to make it connect, albeit it was powerful enough to completely tear open a concrete wall and utterly destory a very thick adjacent wall and peel off parts of Sasuke's own skin.

And yet, it accomplished nothing. Itachi easily grabbed his wrist, broke it to stop the flow and he was done as he could no longer make handseals.

But I agree, Orochimaru is no fool. He is a sanin he can easily toy with her just like Pain , but I don't think that he would've killed her though.

I agree, team 7 would've been much better without a female, Lee, heck even Kiba or Shino are far better choice for team 7 than any female char.

But I really like the idea of Neji being a member of team 7 , lol. Better than dying like a fodder for the sake of a lame pairing development tbh

But to be fair, both Hinata and Sakura had really the potential to be great characters, if just Kishi didn't suck hard at writing female chars

Yes, Neji would have been great. He's a calm minded fella. He would have been good as a glue to stick the team together.

The way I see it, both Neji and Hinata had enough potential as characters to have development on par with Gaara and Shikamaru before they were neglected in Part 2, so at the least they'd be major support characters rather than minor support like Kiba or Ino. Whether or not that constitutes enough to be an Mc idk. Of course, if we ARE ignoring the whole 2 guys 1 girl thing rule, yes, I much would prefer Neji as a third MC over Hinata, since he had more potential in terms of development than Hinata, though Hinata herself also would be relevant through her relation to Neji & Hyuga in such a case. I have so many headcanon scenarios in my head about the sort of things that Neji/Hinata could have gone through if they were given spot light. :lol I even hope to make a thread of how Neji could have been a more relevant character, potentially an MC

Gaara and Shikamaru are garbage characters. They stink. They are badly written with Gaara being marginally better. Neji is the only one who had potential as he belonged from the Branch Family. That could have been expanded in part II where he fought for the rights of his people and made a difference. So, I agree about Neji, but completely disagree about Hinata.

You keep calling Hinata useless but based on feats she always stepped up when she needed to. the only time her shyness showed was when Naruto was around but in combat situations she always held her own.

Naruto gave her the cou

Hinata came off as shy and reserved in the series but when it came down to it she stepped up every single time.

She is not useless here. No, she's a heap of useless trash that can't be salvaged. Which one of these are "useful" feats? Neji steam-rolled her ass and three Jounins stepped in to save her life. That is the most pathetic performance from anyone that I have seen in the entire manga.

And what happened against Pein? She got one-paneled and made the situation a hundred times worse as Naruto would have killed everybody in the village had Minato not left a large lump of Deus Ex Machina up his posterior because she simply wanted to tell him that how much he "wubed" him. Let's not.

 

[Mellanoma]

I never stated that it can't damage anything. The point is skill. Hinata lacks it. She always has. And, a tap has to be well-placed and go for the critical areas for it to make a difference as you stated. Take the example of Chidori. It's literally a hit assassination tech, and it would have easily killed Itachi in part I had it connected. But, Sasuke lacked the skill to make it connect, albeit it was powerful enough to completely tear open a concrete wall and utterly destory a very thick adjacent wall and peel off parts of Sasuke's own skin.

And yet, it accomplished nothing. Itachi easily grabbed his wrist, broke it to stop the blow and he was done as he could no longer make handseals.



Yes, Neji would have been great. He's a calm minded fella. He would have been good as a glue to stick the team together.



Gaara and Shikamaru are garbage characters. They stink. They are badly written with Gaara being marginally better. Neji is the only one who had potential as he belonged from the Branch Family. That could have been expanded in part II where he fought for the rights of his people and made a difference. So, I agree about Neji, but completely disagree about Hinata.



She is not useless here. No, she's a heap of useless trash that can't be salvaged. Which one of these are "useful" feats? Neji steam-rolled her ass and three Jounins stepped in to save her life. That is the most pathetic performance from anyone that I have seen in the entire manga.

And what happened against Pein? She got one-paneled and made the situation a hundred times worse as Naruto would have killed everybody in the village had Minato not left a large lump of Deus Ex Machina up his posterior because she simply wanted to tell him that how much he "wubed" him. Let's not.

Im detecting sexism..

Relax man its just manga

 

[shelke]

Im detecting sexism..

Relax man its just manga

Try better jokes.

 

[King Of Pop]

part 1 hinata >>>> part 1 sakura objectively

Doesn't change what i said.

 

[super michael]

Someone mentioned that Hinata trained only for Naruto to acknowledge her, I really don't remember that. Can someone post that chapter if it is no problem?

Edit I noticed some are using part 2 feats, I specifically stated part 1.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Doesn't change what i said.

you weren't saying anything...you were typing...and hinata's skillset would be better beneficial to the team than sakura's uselessness outside out battles (which are the most important thing to a ninja)

 

[Mellanoma]

Try better jokes.

Based on Manga


Hinata would've trained to be acknowledged by Naruto

Naruto would've trained to be ackowledged by Sasuke

Sasuke would've stayed the same

Who knows though as the manga would have changed completely.

Also not sure how many Manga characters you have developed by Why you say Shikamaru and Gaara are bad characters?

Just curious