teh Kiyubi for naruto is like spiral zetsu for Obito..they fight in their places!!!

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I said fire release ,because of pain vs Kurama battle.Wind release was more used due to kurama influence.If Naruto did not know any wind jutsu,the Kurama for compensate the wind abilities

sasuke dont even know how to implant sharingan by hiself , h had to ask tobidara's help
 

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sasuke dont even know how to implant sharingan by hiself , h had to ask tobidara's help

Sasuke was the "only uchiha" at that time(Until obito identity was reveal).How do you expect him to know fully about uchiha past/tradition like Shinobi who live amongst Uchiha till adulthood ?For example,Obito was taught about the history of shinobi through Madara in his genjutsu world,while Madara grew up amongst uchiha,fight endless and keep upgrading his arsenals( due to his era).
 

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Sasuke was the "only uchiha" at that time(Until obito identity was reveal).How do you expect him to know fully about uchiha past/tradition like Shinobi who live amongst Uchiha till adulthood ?For example,Obito was taught about the history of shinobi through Madara in his genjutsu world,while Madara grew up amongst uchiha,fight endless and keep upgrading his arsenals( due to his era).

the boss bada$$ tobi you saw in manga was actually tobidara...not obito...obito was teh fodder Tobi...

Tobidara used sasuke like pawn puppet to achieve his goals
 

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But that's just it, he's not just subconsciously there. He gives him tips, kneads chakra for him, he has to cooperate just to access his bijuu avatar, can free him from genjutsu if wants to, how's that any different than teamwork? I can accept sasuke takes handouts but there's clearly and obviously a difference between using other's power for themselves versus shared power. The manga directly states from ashura to naruto that fighting alone isn't their strength but through cooperation. But fine, i'll settle this. i'll go ahead and pretend that sasuke and 8.5 characters is needed to match naruto and kurama. it still takes naruto and kurama to push just the 1 sasuke to use some of the 8.5 :lol

I'd agree with you if sasuke used his own powers to fight naruto...but he used a giftwrapped curse mark and rinnegan and the tailed beasts so I guess that means it's actually naruto and kurama vs sasuke and handouts
 

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I'd agree with you if sasuke used his own powers to fight naruto...but he used a giftwrapped curse mark and rinnegan and the tailed beasts so I guess that means it's actually naruto and kurama vs sasuke and handouts

I see you're brain dead from fapping naruto for so many years that you fail to realize that kurama isn't just a freebee handout but a character as well. Agree or disagree to whatever fills your heart's content but the underline fact it's takes the effort of 2 characters to match 1 sasuke. enjoy
 

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I see you're brain dead from fapping naruto for so many years that you fail to realize that kurama isn't just a freebee handout but a character as well. Agree or disagree to whatever fills your heart's content but the underline fact it's takes the effort of 2 characters to match 1 sasuke. enjoy

do you know me?...show me proof that I'm even a naruto fan and I'll disregard this bullshit comment...lolololololol

ps kurama being a character as well doesn't change the fact that it's naruto and kurama vs sasuke and handouts...the only way to match naruto and kurama is for sasuke to fight using external handouts...there is no denying this fact...if naruto + kurama would have equaled sasuke using JUST his own power (mangekyo sharingan) then you'd have a point...do you understand? (don't worry...I am sure you do not)
 

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do you know me?...show me proof that I'm even a naruto fan and I'll disregard this bullshit comment...lolololololol

ps kurama being a character as well doesn't change the fact that it's naruto and kurama vs sasuke and handouts...the only way to match naruto and kurama is for sasuke to fight using external handouts...there is no denying this fact...if naruto + kurama would have equaled sasuke using JUST his own power (mangekyo sharingan) then you'd have a point...do you understand? (don't worry...I am sure you do not)

Garbage and irrelevant to me. I never denied it. you on the otherhand are denying 2v1
 

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Garbage and irrelevant to me. I never denied it. you on the otherhand are denying 2v1

nope I'm not...I'm simply stating it's not just 2 on 1...it's 2 on 1 + handouts...2 on 1 would be naruto/kurama vs MS sasuke
 

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nope I'm not...I'm simply stating it's not just 2 on 1...it's 2 on 1 + handouts...2 on 1 would be naruto/kurama vs MS sasuke



Good, so you admit it's 2 characters against 1. My job here is done.
 

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Good, so you admit it's 2 characters against 1. My job here is done.

no your job is not done...you're only looking at half the picture and ignoring the other half like the sasuke fantard that you are
 

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no your job is not done...you're only looking at half the picture and ignoring the other half like the sasuke fantard that you are

Cute, one minute I get a neg rep for being a fake sasuke fan, now I'm a "sasuke fantard" lol typical NDS. your labels is about as useful as hinata's relevancy. -half the picture- lol nope I'm just one step ahead as usual therefore no need for me to address. besides handouts is meaningless in this topic when naruto is just as much of a handout poster boy as sasuke. The simple question I asked is does it take 2 character's effort to rival sasuke with or without sasuke's 8.5 or rinnegan, and the answer is yes. for other's who read this, if you truly are not a brain dead narufap as you claim to not be then you would know that to be a perfect jink and access bijuu mode (not chakra mode) perks they must be involved in the fight side by side. I have nothing to lose by discrediting sasuke, your narufans are afraid to call out naruto for who he is.

This right here is just naruto alone, he takes his power (handout) and fights in his own right much like sasuke.
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But this, this is naruto and kurama, kurama gives him the power and involves himself in it. that's teamwork.
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The handout/external chakra from kurama isn't enough, the kyuubi has to be involved to do some of the work. something sasuke's rinnegan or 8.5 can't do. sasuke has to actively do it all himself to compete with naruto, while naruto using teamwork is more than enough to defeat-tie whatever you want to call it with just sasuke (ems sasuke included)
 

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Cute, one minute I get a neg rep for being a fake sasuke fan, now I'm a "sasuke fantard" lol typical NDS. your labels is about as useful as hinata's relevancy. -half the picture- lol nope I'm just one step ahead as usual therefore no need for me to address. besides handouts is meaningless in this topic when naruto is just as much of a handout poster boy as sasuke. The simple question I asked is does it take 2 character's effort to rival sasuke with or without sasuke's 8.5 or rinnegan, and the answer is yes. for other's who read this, if you truly are not a brain dead narufap as you claim to not be then you would know that to be a perfect jink and access bijuu mode (not chakra mode) perks they must be involved in the fight side by side. I have nothing to lose by discrediting sasuke, your narufans are afraid to call out naruto for who he is.

This right here is just naruto alone, he takes his power (handout) and fights in his own right much like sasuke.
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But this, this is naruto and kurama, kurama gives him the power and involves himself in it. that's teamwork.
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The handout/external chakra from kurama isn't enough, the kyuubi has to be involved to do some of the work. something sasuke's rinnegan or 8.5 can't do. sasuke has to actively do it all himself to compete with naruto, while naruto using teamwork is more than enough to defeat-tie whatever you want to call it with just sasuke (ems sasuke included)

I don't give a shit about any of the rest of your comment...as long as you admit that sasuke needs handouts to compete with the combination of naruto and kurama...not sasuke WITH HIS OWN POWERS...lolololololololol...by the way why the hell are you bringing up hinata?...you really are a mental midget aren't you?...this is about NARUTO and SASUKE

ps I'm still waiting on that proof that I'm apparently a naruto uzumaki fan now
 

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I don't give a shit about any of the rest of your comment...as long as you admit that sasuke needs handouts to compete with the combination of naruto and kurama...not sasuke WITH HIS OWN POWERS...lolololololololol...by the way why the hell are you bringing up hinata?...you really are a mental midget aren't you?...this is about NARUTO and SASUKE

ps I'm still waiting on that proof that I'm apparently a naruto uzumaki fan now

Good cause the second half wasn't aimed at you.
yup I admit what I never denied in the first place, now that you accept 2v1. this discussion can finally end.
 

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I don't give a shit about any of the rest of your comment...as long as you admit that sasuke needs handouts to compete with the combination of naruto and kurama...not sasuke WITH HIS OWN POWERS...lolololololololol...by the way why the hell are you bringing up hinata?...you really are a mental midget aren't you?...this is about NARUTO and SASUKE

ps I'm still waiting on that proof that I'm apparently a naruto uzumaki fan now

Good cause the second half wasn't aimed at you.
yup I admit what I never denied in the first place, now that you accept 2v1. this discussion can finally end.

kiyubi+Naruto r 2 different fighters fighting together...
 
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