Madara controlled it....Madara used his own powers to controll kurama...where as kiyubi is part of naruto's powers....do you get the difference now??..
What does that have to do with this ? If anything, it clarifies that Madara needed a "controlled external source" to fight against Hashirama while Naruto can use it willingly as it part of his power, which you've mentioned in your post.
Then there shouldn't be a problem with Naruto using Kurama since he is the god dammed jinchuuriki of the kyuubi, and people sure didn't complain when bee uses it, or when Yugito used it against Kakuzu & Hidan. Furthermore, the transition of power is being converted willingly. So i should ask you what's the problem here ?
people always complained about B and his plot armor escapes.
I have no personal issue with it if they can accept it takes two characters working together to be as strong as he is. He's not just using the chakra anymore now he's literally working with kurama. So that makes it naruto and kurama vs sasuke.
What does that have to do with this ? If anything, it clarifies that Madara needed a "controlled external source" to fight against Hashirama while Naruto can use it willingly as it part of his power, which you've mentioned in your post.
people always complained about B and his plot armor escapes.
I have no personal issue with it if they can accept it takes two characters working together to be as strong as he is. He's not just using the chakra anymore now he's literally working with kurama. So that makes it naruto and kurama vs sasuke.
it was stated in manga ,in obito rin death flashbacks....spiral tells obito to let him fight teh mist anbus instead of him....also dont believe those liiars who say obito fought minato and controlled kurama becuz it was all tobidara's doing
Depends on the scenario, in the case for the final fight it went as i've said. Yes they are a two man team but that's no different other than Naruto having Kurama as a conscious. Both are gaining power, one externally through force & another internally with consent. Kurama is apart of Naruto (If Kurama is extracted Naruto dies), he gives Naruto the power and Naruto converts it to his own needs. It plainly simple really, i don't know why this thing is so overlooked?
It could have been considered yourway if Kurama was physically there with Naruto fighting against Sasuke.
Says the one who just stated that Kurama is part of Naruto's power yet disagrees with my statement. Dude, If you were any dumber i'd have to water you twice a week.
Depends on the scenario, in the case for the final fight it went as i've said. Yes they are a two man team but that's no different other than Naruto having Kurama as a conscious. Both are gaining power, one externally through force & another internally with consent. Kurama is apart of Naruto (If Kurama is extracted Naruto dies), he gives Naruto the power and Naruto converts it to his own needs. It plainly simple really, i don't know this thing is so overlooked?
It could be considered yourway if Kurama was physically there with Naruto.
Depends on the scenario, in the case for the final fight it went as i've said. Yes they are a two man team but that's no different other than Naruto having Kurama as a conscious. Both are gaining power, one externally through force & another internally with consent. Kurama is apart of Naruto (If Kurama is extracted Naruto dies), he gives Naruto the power and Naruto converts it to his own needs. It plainly simple really, i don't know why this thing is so overlooked?
It could have been considered yourway if Kurama was physically there with Naruto fighting against Sasuke.
But that's just it, he's not just subconsciously there. He gives him tips, kneads chakra for him, he has to cooperate just to access his bijuu avatar, can free him from genjutsu if wants to, how's that any different than teamwork? I can accept sasuke takes handouts but there's clearly and obviously a difference between using other's power for themselves versus shared power. The manga directly states from ashura to naruto that fighting alone isn't their strength but through cooperation. But fine, i'll settle this. i'll go ahead and pretend that sasuke and 8.5 characters is needed to match naruto and kurama. it still takes naruto and kurama to push just the 1 sasuke to use some of the 8.5 :lol
Says the one who just stated that Kurama is part of Naruto's power yet disagrees with my statement. Dude, If you were any dumber i'd have to water you twice a week.
But that's just it, he's not just subconsciously there. He gives him tips, kneads chakra for him, he has to cooperate just to access his bijuu avatar, can free him from genjutsu if wants to, how's that any different than teamwork? I can accept sasuke takes handouts but there's clearly and obviously a difference between using other's power for themselves versus shared power. The manga directly states from ashura to naruto that fighting alone isn't their strength but through cooperation. But fine, i'll settle this. i'll go ahead and pretend that sasuke and 8.5 characters is needed to match naruto and kurama. it still takes naruto and kurama to push just the 1 sasuke to use some of the 8.5 :lol
I thought i already stated that it was a two men team? You see Sakura's consciousness also snapped Ino out of her mind during part 1 fight, so does that mean that is was a 2v1 fight? Other than that the only thing that i can't accept is the part that I've highlighted. I already acknowledged that Naruto needs cooperation since he's good at that, but you make it seem like it was a 2 vs 1 fight during the final showdown. It's Sasuke's problem that he can't connect well with others & had to resort to steal chakra. That was his ego getting in the way, otherwise he would have finished it with the power he was given if he was confidential:lol, just accept it.
I thought i already stated that it was a two men team? You see Sakura's consciousness also snapped Ino out of her mind during part 1 fight, so does that mean that is was a 2v1 fight? Other than that the only thing that i can't accept is the part that I've highlighted. I alredy acknowledged that Naruto needs cooperation since he's good at that, but you make it seem like it was a 2 vs 1 fight during the final showdown. It's Sasuke's problem that he can't connect well with others & had to resort to steal chakra. That was his ego getting in the way, otherwise he would have finished it with the power he was given if he was confidential:lol, just accept it.
No because unlike naruto or B, sakura and obito actually freed themselves. yes that's correct, it's 2v1 because it takes teamwork of 2 to match/overwhelm 1 sasuke. The rest you said is irrelevant because there's honestly no difference between the two except sasuke does all the work for himself.
No because unlike naruto or B, sakura and obito actually freed themselves. yes that's correct, it's 2v1 because it takes teamwork of 2 to match/overwhelm 1 sasuke. The rest you said is irrelevant because there's honestly no difference between the two except sasuke does all the work for himself.
Dude seriously, are you high? How can a simple fact can't get through your head. I'll have to break it down for you. If it was a team work of two during that fight, Kurama would have switched with Naruto like he did during the obito fight to send Kakashi away:
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That's how Kurama would've physically helped Naruto in a situation, notice the difference. Naruto's avatar clone helped by collecting senjutsu chakra for the original, which is Naruto's jutsu anyway & the senjutsu chakra is only compatible to Naruto. I'll also put this out there, Sasuke needed Itachi's power & Obito's help to equal with Kcm Naruto. Why obito you ask? Because Obito implanted the eyes for Sasuke & cured his blindness, and before you say anything else, it is Itachi's power when Sasuke clearly admits himself:
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That fight wasn't fair for Naruto at all, it was a miserable fail for Sasuke who needed the 8.5 bijuu chakra just to take on Naruto & Naruto wasn't even trying to kill him. Sasuke even admitted that he needs the bijuus:
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Take the loss man, it's yours. When in a debate, stop giving excuses like this.
Dude seriously, are you high? How can a simple fact can't get through your head. I'll have to break it down for you. If it was a team work of two during that fight, Kurama would have switched with Naruto like he did during the obito fight to send Kakashi away:
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That's how Kurama would've physically helped Naruto in a situation, notice the difference. Naruto's avatar clone helped by collecting senjutsu chakra for the original, which is Naruto's jutsu anyway & the senjutsu chakra is only compatible to Naruto. I'll also put this out there, Sasuke needed Itachi's power & Obito's help to equal with Kcm Naruto. Why obito you ask? Because Obito implanted the eyes for Sasuke & cured his blindness, and before you say anything else, it is Itachi's power when Sasuke clearly admits himself:
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That fight wasn't fair for Naruto at all, it was a miserable fail for Sasuke who needed the 8.5 bijuu chakra just to take on Naruto & Naruto wasn't even trying to kill him. Sasuke even admitted that he needs the bijuus:
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Take the loss man, it's yours. When in a debate, stop giving excuses like this.
It's not like that I don't acknowledge the fact that Naruto needs cooperation, its just that in the final showdown it didn't go that way you mentioned which vas 2v1. Hence I brought up the Madara fight with was also the same case but it didn't bother people when Madara was relying on an external source.
I said fire release ,because of pain vs Kurama battle.Wind release was more used due to kurama influence.If Naruto did not know any wind jutsu,the Kurama for compensate the wind abilities
people always complained about B and his plot armor escapes. 
