The Uchiha was the most 'complete' Clan

[UnknownJin]

Lol remember how he had Edo Hashirama on his knees without even using the Rin'engan and Mokuton powers

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I remember Hashirama beating edo Madara...

 

[lndra]

On the other hand, well yeah. The Uchiha Clan was considered the most prestigious clan that could only be rivaled by the Senju. They are considered danger with unparallel chakra and was stated to produce the most prominent members within Konoha before the massacre.

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The only problem was that they were cursed to hate. And Danzo and Tobirama's dumbass decisions only added fuel to the fire.

I think Kishimoto failed on their portrayal.

Like in the beginning it was said that the Sharingan only unlocked in a selected few Uchiha, but then we find out that there were tons of Uchiha in the past and before the massacre, who all had Sharingan.

Then in Part 2 Kishimoto wants to show us how prodigious the Clan was in the past, only to have them being killed off by two uchiha's off-screen in Part 1.


I think that's the biggest problem with the Clan - Is that Kishimoto wasn't consistent.

In the beginning most of them are a bunch of ****boys excluding Itachi, but in reality they are supposed to be this super strong clan filled with prodigal war-like ninja.

It's hilarious scripted on Kishimoto's part.

 

[Retsu]

The Senju are descendants of Asura Ōtsutsuki, the younger son of Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki. Through Asura, the Senju inherited the Hagoromo's "body", granting them a powerful life force and chakra. Unlike most other clans, the Senju never developed a trademark ability or style of combat, its members instead being equally proficient in all the ninja arts. It is from this balance that they acquired their name, "Senju" (千手, Literally meaning: "a thousand skills", "a thousand hands"), in reference to their being "the clan with a thousand skills"

 

[whiteboy2345]

Don't know about them being complete but if you look at there history then they surely were one of the most retarded clan.

Definitely man. I mean, it's not like the Senju created a system that discriminated against a rival clan, forced them to the outskirts of the village and then ordered their destruction once the oppressed people decided to rebel. That in no way sounds retarded or sickeningly evil at all. Having a thirteen year old brainwashed into believing that the Uchiha should just suck it up and take all of the villages hate and discrimination, and then making that thirteen year old butcher his family. Definitely not the retarded ones.

Don't sit here and excuse a genocide, but then tell me that I'm sick for saying that Obito killing Kushina after birth was a kill nonetheless. Naruto fans will excuse the most horrendous nonsense and then call the Uchiha evil for trying to overthrow the corrupt backwards system.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I did say give them time and they'd self destruct and they did when that time came you're just too ignorant or a fanboy. Sure Itachi wiped out the clan for the village's sake but who set everything in motion? Madara. He manipulated Obito who in turn unleashed the nine tails on the village which in turn brought the uchiha clan under suspicion and then Obito helped Itachi to wipe out the clan.
So I am not wrong in saying the uchihas wiped themselves out lol. They set the events in motion for their own destruction.

They still outlasted the fodder uzumaki and senju clans. It's unfortunate thatItachi's and shisui betrayed them otherwise konoha would've been solo'd.

 

[salamander uchiha]

2 Uchiha's > Uchiha Clan

Your point is?

 

[Hakke]

Your point is?

I guess he was trying to say that all the clan was just a bunch of fodders and just because there was 4 powerful members of it , that doesn't mean that the whole clan is ,I mean not every Uchiha has a MS ,

I don't know that is just my guess

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Definitely man. I mean, it's not like the Senju created a system that discriminated against a rival clan, forced them to the outskirts of the village and then ordered their destruction once the oppressed people decided to rebel. That in no way sounds retarded or sickeningly evil at all. Having a thirteen year old brainwashed into believing that the Uchiha should just suck it up and take all of the villages hate and discrimination, and then making that thirteen year old butcher his family. Definitely not the retarded ones.

Don't sit here and excuse a genocide, but then tell me that I'm sick for saying that Obito killing Kushina after birth was a kill nonetheless. Naruto fans will excuse the most horrendous nonsense and then call the Uchiha evil for trying to overthrow the corrupt backwards system.

if that's the case it's because Madara didn't do his job properly. Instead he wined (in typical uchiha fashion) like a b!tch when he didn't get his way, even though time and time and time again the hashirama went out of his way to make peace and agreements with him and his clan.

What does he do? he abandons them attacks the village he helped build and sullys the uchiha name. And you wonder why ppl would give them the side eye when their "supposed" leader is threatening their lives and trying to kill his "supposed" best friend. Yet despite this those very same uchiha are given the second highest position in the entire village short only to the Hokage himself, but again that's not enough and they plan coups behind the hokage's back. Fck that clan. Ungrateful sh!ts.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Definitely man. I mean, it's not like the Senju created a system that discriminated against a rival clan, forced them to the outskirts of the village and then ordered their destruction once the oppressed people decided to rebel. That in no way sounds retarded or sickeningly evil at all. Having a thirteen year old brainwashed into believing that the Uchiha should just suck it up and take all of the villages hate and discrimination, and then making that thirteen year old butcher his family. Definitely not the retarded ones.

Don't sit here and excuse a genocide, but then tell me that I'm sick for saying that Obito killing Kushina after birth was a kill nonetheless. Naruto fans will excuse the most horrendous nonsense and then call the Uchiha evil for trying to overthrow the corrupt backwards system.

The system was created by both Hashi and Madara. And Madara leaving the village and his action after that didn't build much confidence between the senju and the uchiha which continued to degrade even further due to Madara's plans leading to uchiha clan's eventual destruction. Blaming everything on the senju is just stupid and ignorant.
And the village didn't hate the uchihas. They were a well respected clan. Its the village higher ups who were over cautious and din't try to mend their relationship with the uchiha due to Madara and Obito's action even after Tobirama's death. Btw, did I ever support the genocide anywhere in my previous post? No. All I said is that the uchihas were responsible for their own destruction and any one other than a fanboy would see that instead of getting salty over it.

They still outlasted the fodder uzumaki and senju clans. It's unfortunate thatItachi's and shisui betrayed them otherwise konoha would've been solo'd.

Why the hostility? I am not bashing the uchiha clan, just stating the facts that are there in the manga. If Sasuke being alive means the uchiha clan still exists then at least the Uzumaki clan has much better presence than the uchiha clan. Itachi and Shisui picked a side. A side they thought was the right one. So stay salty.

Title should be changed to "The Uchiha was/is the most 'wanked' Clan :lol

Lel so true.

 

[lndra]

Your point is?

They are too over wanked.

Only Uchiha's that matter are the one's who actually have a story, even then ... There's still a few who were taken down in panel by ninjas.

 

[whiteboy2345]

if that's the case it's because Madara didn't do his job properly. Instead he wined (in typical uchiha fashion) like a b!tch when he didn't get his way, even though time and time and time again the hashirama went out of his way to make peace and agreements with him and his clan.

What does he do? he abandons them attacks the village he helped build and sullys the uchiha name. And you wonder why ppl would give them the side eye when their "supposed" leader is threatening their lives and trying to kill his "supposed" best friend. Yet despite this those very same uchiha are given the second highest position in the entire village short only to the Hokage himself, but again that's not enough and they plan coups behind the hokage's back. Fck that clan. Ungrateful sh!ts.

Yeah, grouping an entire clan of people together and treating them with suspicion because one member defected is honestly ridiculous. If the Uchiha knew why Madara really left, then they would have packed their bags and returned to being a clan of nomadic mercenaries. Tobirama despised them and didn't trust them, no matter how much he might try to make it seem like he didn't hate them.

The Uchiha were not ungrateful. They made extreme efforts for the village and were treated like terrorists in response. Can you blame them for being upset? People always talk about how Naruto would be in the right because the village despised him, but if the village despises the Uchiha then all of a sudden the Uchiha have to suck it up like men. The Uchiha were respected but were not liked. They were only respected for their Sharingan and nothing more, but the envy and hatred of the village overshadowed that respect.

 

[King Of Pop]

if that's the case it's because Madara didn't do his job properly. Instead he wined (in typical uchiha fashion) like a b!tch when he didn't get his way, even though time and time and time again the hashirama went out of his way to make peace and agreements with him and his clan.

What does he do? he abandons them attacks the village he helped build and sullys the uchiha name. And you wonder why ppl would give them the side eye when their "supposed" leader is threatening their lives and trying to kill his "supposed" best friend. Yet despite this those very same uchiha are given the second highest position in the entire village short only to the Hokage himself, but again that's not enough and they plan coups behind the hokage's back. Fck that clan. Ungrateful sh!ts.

your argument is somewhat ridiculous. since when should the actions of one person be the yardstick of how a whole clan of people behave? especially as manga made it clear that the clan didnt even trust madara nor agree to follow him

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but lets ignore that and pretend like all they were all evil and whatnot

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Being good in one aspect doesn't mean being better over all. Byakugan doesn't mean shit here. Btw the Hyuuga were considered the best in Konoha....AFTER there was no more Uchiha clan. Do the math and try again.

lol the hyuga was the stronger clan

 

[BenjerminGaye]

your argument is somewhat ridiculous. since when should the actions of one person be the yardstick of how a whole clan of people behave? especially as manga made it clear that the clan didnt even trust madara nor agree to follow him

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but lets ignore that and pretend like all they were all evil and whatnot

Are you serious at the bold? That's since forever. It comes with being the leader of the clan or any group of people. People look at your leader as a reflection of what your group represents. Its why everyone looks at america like dumbasses cuz our leader is trump. Its why north korea is practically synonymous with Kim Jong-un. -_- I'm mad you even tried to make that argument.



Them not trusting him doesn't change the fact that he was at that time seen as their leader.

Yeah, grouping an entire clan of people together and treating them with suspicion because one member defected is honestly ridiculous. If the Uchiha knew why Madara really left, then they would have packed their bags and returned to being a clan of nomadic mercenaries. Tobirama despised them and didn't trust them, no matter how much he might try to make it seem like he didn't hate them.

The Uchiha were not ungrateful. They made extreme efforts for the village and were treated like terrorists in response. Can you blame them for being upset? People always talk about how Naruto would be in the right because the village despised him, but if the village despises the Uchiha then all of a sudden the Uchiha have to suck it up like men. The Uchiha were respected but were not liked. They were only respected for their Sharingan and nothing more, but the envy and hatred of the village overshadowed that respect.

Not 1 man. The LEADER OF THEIR CLAN. There's a difference. Madara left because a fcking stone tablet and not being DEMOCRATICALLY elected as hokage. He thought the position would just be given to him like its still the warring clan days. No you gotta earn it.


They are ungrateful. They had the second highest position of power, under the second hokage. Could of had the second highest position of power under the first hokage but their leader fcked them over, multiple times. And this guy wanted to be hokage. Can even keep his own emotions in check let alone his clan. Pfft propestrous. I already explained why people don't like them.

 

[WalksInShadows]

lol the hyuga was the stronger clan

lel i can sure as hell guarantee nobody will find a single page or panel in the story where this was stated or portrayed as an absolute fact.

Not 1 man. The LEADER OF THEIR CLAN. There's a difference. Madara left because a fcking stone tablet and not being DEMOCRATICALLY elected as hokage. He thought the position would just be given to him like its still the warring clan days. No you gotta earn it.

first of all, Madara left in part because he knew Tobirama was scheming his way into becoming Hashirama's successor and what he was going to do with that authority. And the real kicker to your argument is that Madara wasn't even their leader when Hashirama last saw him as Konoha-nin.

Secondly, Hashirama offered the position to Madara and he refused it long before Tobirama made any mention about holding an election for it. If you and most other ppl around here put as much energy into paying attention to the stream of events like you do you hatred for somebody, you'd know that Madara leaving Konoha had nothing to do with a position he never wanted in the first place.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Yeah, grouping an entire clan of people together and treating them with suspicion because one member defected is honestly ridiculous. If the Uchiha knew why Madara really left, then they would have packed their bags and returned to being a clan of nomadic mercenaries. Tobirama despised them and didn't trust them, no matter how much he might try to make it seem like he didn't hate them.

The Uchiha were not ungrateful. They made extreme efforts for the village and were treated like terrorists in response. Can you blame them for being upset? People always talk about how Naruto would be in the right because the village despised him, but if the village despises the Uchiha then all of a sudden the Uchiha have to suck it up like men. The Uchiha were respected but were not liked. They were only respected for their Sharingan and nothing more, but the envy and hatred of the village overshadowed that respect.

the uchiha were butthurt retards who found butthurt in every little thing...but it's not their fault...it's actually black zetsu's fault

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

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No other clan was shown to be more complete when you look at an individual perspective. They were the best clan and the most versatile. This is why the uchiha on any Jounin team is always the character with the most potential because they derive from true completeness. Kakshi for example knew Sasuke had the most potential and only turned his attention away from that after Sasuke left the Village. Same with Minato's team, Obioto had the most potential and did even in the end. There were other clans like the Senju, who were strong because of Hashirama but they couldn't even stand the test of time and were almost all gone by the time Naruto's era came around.

1. the senju without hashirama were beating the uchiha without madara...lololololol

2. it was the senju clan who were called "the clan of a thousand skills"...not the uchiha

 

[BenjerminGaye]

first of all, Madara left in part because he knew Tobirama was scheming his way into becoming Hashirama's successor and what he was going to do with that authority. And the real kicker to your argument is that Madara wasn't even their leader when Hashirama last saw him as Konoha-nin.

Secondly, Hashirama offered the position to Madara and he refused it long before Tobirama made any mention about holding an election for it. If you and most other ppl around here put as much energy into paying attention to the stream of events like you do you hatred for somebody, you'd know that Madara leaving Konoha had nothing to do with a position he never wanted in the first place.

show me the proof.
Cuz last i checked tobirama said this:

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show me the scans of the underline cus last i Checked AGAIN:

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he was all for it even naming the village konoha.


like i said. He got buthurt over not getting the position the right way, and decided to follow a stone over his "best friend"

 

[WalksInShadows]

show me the proof.
Cuz last i checked tobirama said this:

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show me the scans of the underline cus last i Checked AGAIN:

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Tobirama was never elected Hokage.You shouldn't say "last time i checked", because that would actually imply you actually paid real attention to something.

like i said. He got buthurt over not getting the position the right way, and decided to follow a stone over his "best friend"

if you paid any attention to Hashirama's story like you think you have, you shouldn't have to ask for one. Madara told Hashirama in no uncertain terms that he was leaving because he had found a new dream, but your silly behind is still here spreading gossip that Hashirama dispelled because you want to be right instead of getting facts right. When did you ever see Madara tell somebody that being Hokage was something he ever gave a rat's ass about?

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Kakshi and obioto lmao