Universe 7 lineup

[Meowazziel]

Goku.
Vegeta.
Gohan.
Buu.
Piccolo.
#17.
#18.
Krillin.
Tien.
Master Roshi.

This seems to be the 10man lineup for universe 7 in the tournament.
This is likely the order of strength of the fighters (Goku and Vegeta can share spot #1 and #2).

I dont know if there are any rules that you have to follow for choosing teammembers,
but if not, the lineup looks to be heavily fan service influenced and they all live on planet earth.

They didnt all originate from planet earth though and funny enough most are not full blooded earthlings.
Goku and Vegeta are Saiyans. Gohan is a half Saiyan/half Earthling.
Buu is somewhat unclear and the previous Supreme Kai is still in him too.
Piccolo is a Namek.
Tien is from the three eyed clan which is said to be an alien race. He is either half earthling or full alien.
Krillin and Master Roshi are the only two full blooded earthlings.
The twins #17 and #18 are androids and therefore part earthling.

Mixed feelings about this lineup.

Hopefully Buu wont fall asleep this time and we finally get to see him fight. I am curious what the reaction will be from other universes who know about Majin buu (the past evil Buu). As the Zamasu and Gowasu knew about Majin Buu in the manga.
Nice to see several Z fighters be relevant again.
Gohan finally back into the ring. Curious to see to what extend he is back to being a martial artist again or if this is just temporarily for the tournament.

However, Master Roshi.
Really Master Roshi?
I could imagine that somewhere in the universe are stronger fighters to take his place.
Someone from freeza's race for example.
The only reasons I can think of for picking Master Roshi is that from what I heard there seem to be teamfights as well.
Not just 1v1.
It could be an advantage if the fighters in your team know each other well.
Other reasons might be things like every team needs to pick an old dude for their team who has been a master with pupils , or you need to pick fighters from various power ranges or something like that.
Maybe Master Roshi being low powerlvl comes in handy vs a certain fighter who scales the stronger his enemy is or because of some special techniques of his?

With so many new fighters introduced (all those other universes), I do somewhat understand that a new universe 7 fighter is not introduced.
It may also be difficult for the storyline, because what will you do with that fighter afterwards?
Still some new fighter(s) from universe 7 could have been cool.

What are your views on all of this?
What do you think of the universe 7 lineup.

 

[Ōkami]

Glad to see Tien doing something.

But Krillan, and Roshi?

I'm pretty sure there are two little half Saiyans that would make better team members.

 

[Meowazziel]

Glad to see Tien doing something.

But Krillan, and Roshi?

I'm pretty sure there are two little half Saiyans that would make better team members.

Krillin is stronger than Tien.
Maybe not stronger if you compare max lvl ki attacks.
As Tien has one of the strongest techniques with his max lvl Tribeam attack.
However Krillin is stronger in general and currently training with Goku.

I am glad to see Tien too though. He has interesting techniques, so that will likely make for good to watch fights.

Regarding Trunks and Goten.
Maybe kids cant join? Also it wouldnt be a wise choice emotionally to put the pressure of the tournament on Trunks and Goten their shoulders as the fate of your universe depends on your battle.

 

[ProGun]

Glad to see Tien doing something.

But Krillan, and Roshi?

I'm pretty sure there are two little half Saiyans that would make better team members.

<sniff sniff>
Token Human maybe?
Plot device for the season's dragon ball search to revive a dead Krillan (again)?

 

[InfiniteMugen]

10 bucks says the writers forgot buu terrorized multiple universes

 

[Exaar]

I would've like it if they removed Tein, Krillin and Roshi and put some People from other planets who can at the very least match a super saiyan

 

[DominiqueX]

Mixed feelings. I would remove Gohan, Buu, Tien and Roshi and add Uub (fused with Buu and two[?] years of experience with the hyperbolic time chamber) as well as three unknown characters from universe 7. Disappointing to see that all participants of universe 7 come from the same planet, as if the entire universe didn't have better fighters than Tien and Roshi. Adding them due to pure nostalgia is a stupid decision.

I'm waaaay more interested in all the other teams.

 

[00Rinne]

10 bucks says the writers forgot buu terrorized multiple universes

No sh t huh!

They forgot to wipe their a$$ with this1

 

[Ansatsuken]

From countless number of planets in U7, this is the best you can get???

 

[EZQ]

Tien is stronger than Krillin

 

[EZQ]

I would've like it if they removed Tein, Krillin and Roshi and put some People from other planets who can at the very least match a super saiyan

Wouldn't you rather having the old DB original characters, being relevant again? Getting a powerup...

Tien currently is stronger than namek frieza, and namek SSj goku. His Kikoho caused 2nd form Cell to feel pain, and also restrained him. 1st form cell? Probably loses some limbs after getting hit by it, the same with the androids. Frieza level opponents would get smashed by it, so Tien with his Kikoho can actually do something (and this is assuming he doesn't get a power up).

Maybe it's just me, but i am SICK of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Gotenks.... Bring the old cool characters back for once god dammit! The only thing that makes me really mad is that they won't justify the power ups they are gonna get, specially Roshi, lmao.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

lawl idk why Gohan is in it when he doesn't even like to fight.

 

[Exaar]

Wouldn't you rather having the old DB original characters, being relevant again? Getting a powerup...

It would kinda be nice purely for nostalgia but that's all really.

Plot wise no i'd rather them not.

Tien currently is stronger than namek frieza, and namek SSj goku. His Kikoho caused 2nd form Cell to feel pain, and also restrained him. 1st form cell? Probably loses some limbs after getting hit by it, the same with the androids. Frieza level opponents would get smashed by it, so Tien with his Kikoho can actually do something (and this is assuming he doesn't get a power up)

His kikoho was enough to delay cell due to the force generated by it pushing him back down as he attempted to fly back up, It didn't really do much damage.
1st form cell would most likely tank it, Like he did fused piccolo's blast, with literally no shits given.

Unless Tien was far stronger than Fused Piccolo/SSJ vegeta/SSJ goku at the time (which makes little to no sense), i Highly doubt he would do any note worthy damage to the androids
Him being strong enough to do serious damage to the androids and 1st form cell would literally make him the strongest Z fighter before vegeta left the time chamber for the first time.

Also didn't beerus note that goku in his base form wasn't enough to beat frieza?

Maybe it's just me, but i am SICK of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Gotenks.... Bring the old cool characters back for once god dammit! The only thing that makes me really mad is that they won't justify the power ups they are gonna get, specially Roshi, lmao.

I agree it's some what boring seeing the same old characters but that's why i'd rather them bring in new off planet characters with some new/unique abilities.

It's going to be really difficult to give Krillin and especially roshi a power up of any worth and to be able to justify it, Tein is some what explainable since he kept training over the years.

 

[EZQ]

It would kinda be nice purely for nostalgia but that's all really.

Plot wise no i'd rather them not.

Meh, Dragon ball's plot is too one dimensional to actually give a shit about it imo

His kikoho was enough to delay cell due to the force generated by it pushing him back down as he attempted to fly back up, It didn't really do much damage.
1st form cell would most likely tank it, Like he did fused piccolo's blast, with literally no shits given.

According to DB logic, the same attack that would actually take a shit on person A, does not even scratch person A in his transformmation. Cell absorbed an android, who is >> super saiyan.. do you get how much stronger he got? Pushing him back is an actual feat (and yes Cell was i pain since he was screaming while getting hit by it, both manga and anime). Causing at least a little pain and pushing back 2nd form cell, knowing how much stronger 2nd cell is form 1st form cell (he absorbed an android, who's stronger than a super saiyan) means that 1st form cell would get SHATTERED after getting multiple hits by it.

Unless Tien was far stronger than Fused Piccolo/SSJ vegeta/SSJ goku at the time (which makes little to no sense), i Highly doubt he would do any note worthy damage to the androids
Him being strong enough to do serious damage to the androids and 1st form cell would literally make him the strongest Z fighter before vegeta left the time chamber for the first time.

And no, this is the part where you're mistaken. Genuine question: did you watch dragon ball (no z)? Kikoho is a TECHNIQUE, different from anything we've seen before. It does not only use KI, it use vital energy.

Not all techniques are the same. Vegeta was 18k , and Goku with 3rd kaioken was 24k , still, vegeta's galick gun and goku's kamehame ha were pretty even, because galick gun is a better technique.

If tien had Piccolo's power level, and used Kikoho, pffft, not even perfect cell would've survived, if Tien with arguably less than 250k PL can actually bother someone with more than 10k times his pl.

That's why i said, tien WITH KIKOHO, since this technique increases his power A LOT in exchange of his vital energy. Tien without kikoho and using a kamehame ha for example, can't even stop cell.

I'm just trying to make sure you actually think about how strong that Kikoho was against cell..

Also didn't beerus note that goku in his base form wasn't enough to beat frieza?

Kikoho... Tenshinhan can't beat anyone without it.

Let me remind you that this is tien's SHIN KI KO HO we're talking about, not the normal one. The normal one couldn't even take down napa who was only 6 times stronger than Tien at the time. Now Tien's Shin Ki ko ho allows to use it more than one, and it's power is a lot bigger.

I agree it's some what boring seeing the same old characters but that's why i'd rather them bring in new off planet characters with some new/unique abilities.

Well, new characters from U7 would be great. But i disagree on taking Tien and Krillin out, specially tien. Roshi out is fine for me.

I'd take out of the picture the androids and roshi, and maybe buu. Whatever 3 of that group would allow 3 new z warriors from other planets... it'd be crazy.

It's going to be really difficult to give Krillin and especially roshi a power up of any worth and to be able to justify it, Tein is some what explainable since he kept training over the years.

Krillin already got a power up kind of... but they won't justify shit. Remember SS2 trunks fighting Zamasu who gave ss blue goku trouble? Super's biggest flaw..

 

[Meowazziel]

Tien is stronger than Krillin

Only if you compare the power of the power of their best energy wave.

Tien's kikoho/tribeam (neotribeam?) is one of the strongest known attacks in the dragonball universe and indeed stronger than what we can expect Krillen to currently be able to pull off.
However Krillin is stronger if you compare Tien and Krillin in general.
Stuff like speed, strength and non kikoho/tribeam energy waves.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Only if you compare the power of the power of their best energy wave.

Tien's kikoho/tribeam (neotribeam?) is one of the strongest known attacks in the dragonball universe and indeed stronger than what we can expect Krillen to currently be able to pull off.
However Krillin is stronger if you compare Tien and Krillin in general.
Stuff like speed, strength and non kikoho/tribeam energy waves.

Yeah I think in battle Krilin is better nd stronger than Tien. Considering he have 18 for training partner. And as someone that very close to Goku(MC), he will surely get better support from author compare to Tien

 

[neme6ben]

I just don't get how krillin can be stronger than Tien. Tien was ahead of Krillin in pure power level, not counting his tri beam in dragon ball, at the start of dbz also until the namek saga where Krillin got that power up. at that time only imo did Krillin surpass Tien. it's up to debate in the cell saga on which one is stronger. but after that I mean Tien has been training non stop while Krillin has given up completely training until very very recently. Tien should be way ahead of Krillin at the moment.

 

[EZQ]

Only if you compare the power of the power of their best energy wave.

Tien's kikoho/tribeam (neotribeam?) is one of the strongest known attacks in the dragonball universe and indeed stronger than what we can expect Krillen to currently be able to pull off.
However Krillin is stronger if you compare Tien and Krillin in general.
Stuff like speed, strength and non kikoho/tribeam energy waves.

currently in DB Super, no. Kuririn was hurt by a bullet.. he's pretty weak now. And to be honest, Yamcha telling Maroon that his father is the strongest human does not work for me. Tien isn't even around, so i'm sure that's why Toriyama didn't include him.. he didn't even care about him or forgot him as he has admitted to forget about other characters before.
Tien kept his training, Krillin didn't.

 

[Meowazziel]

currently in DB Super, no. Kuririn was hurt by a bullet.. he's pretty weak now. And to be honest, Yamcha telling Maroon that his father is the strongest human does not work for me. Tien isn't even around, so i'm sure that's why Toriyama didn't include him.. he didn't even care about him or forgot him as he has admitted to forget about other characters before.
Tien kept his training, Krillin didn't.

Tien isnt a human though.
He is from the three eyed clan, which is an alien race.
So either Tien is something like half human half tree eyed clan or just full three eyed clan alien.