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These are extremely useful when you like to keep your distance from your opponent and launch attacks from above. I find these my personal favorites. Since Deidara is a ranged fighter you would want to use your bird like clay to keep your distance from other ninja that try to get close.

when it comes to your ground summons like the spiders they could be used to be hidden as before they strike the opponent if they are small. If you have a giant spider summons you could use it to overpower the opponent, pin them down to immobilize the opponent or cause them to attack relentlessly as a distraction as you prepare for a large scale jutsu.

does this help you with how to use your summons?
Yeah a little cause in the past I see people who use clay make a land mime of bombes with clay lines attached to them
 

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Ight clones another question when someone get close to you or tryies to get close to you how would you avoid it if you was range fighter like deidara
you could use the clone to take your place as you quickly retreat. an example

Seeing the opponent approaching with a straight punch towards me, i simply backstep in unison with releasing smoke bombs to conceal my movements as i create a clone positioned at my previous location.

depending on the type of clone you have you could also use it as a defense and offense in the same move. Clones disperse after being impacted by some opposing force.

with a lightning clone it would turn into lightning shocking the opponent
with an earth clone it would turn to mud briefly cover the opponent in sticky mud
with a water clone you could use the water to trap the enemy with water prison jutsu
if you use explosive clay clone you could cause the clone to explode as you retreat with your aerial clay bird.

does those ideas answer your question well?
 

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you could use the clone to take your place as you quickly retreat. an example

Seeing the opponent approaching with a straight punch towards me, i simply backstep in unison with releasing smoke bombs to conceal my movements as i create a clone positioned at my previous location.

depending on the type of clone you have you could also use it as a defense and offense in the same move. Clones disperse after being impacted by some opposing force.

with a lightning clone it would turn into lightning shocking the opponent
with an earth clone it would turn to mud briefly cover the opponent in sticky mud
with a water clone you could use the water to trap the enemy with water prison jutsu
if you use explosive clay clone you could cause the clone to explode as you retreat with your aerial clay bird.

does those ideas answer your question well?
Yeah I have trouble with combo and of the elements and I have hard time using my resources to escape
 

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Yeah I have trouble with combo and of the elements and I have hard time using my resources to escape
one thing to remember is that you can use freeform ninja tools and Jutsu in the same timeframe. I know i didnt believe it either until i lost a fight in the ninja world because i didnt defend properly. everything takes practice. as long as you learn new things on the way you will do well.

is there any other questions.
 

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one thing to remember is that you can use freeform ninja tools and Jutsu in the same timeframe. I know i didnt believe it either until i lost a fight in the ninja world because i didnt defend properly. everything takes practice. as long as you learn new things on the way you will do well.

is there any other questions.
What are freeform ninja tools and so you saying look at everything at your disposal and your resources
 

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What are freeform ninja tools and so you saying look at everything at your disposal and your resources
freeform ninja tools are, throwing a kunai or shuriken, using flash or smoke bombs, spewing senbon, or utilizing ninja wire. using ninja tools without using 1/3 jutsu per turn.

also yes i am saying that. if there is a nearby terrain that would aid in your escape or defense then use it. for example kicking dirt in the opponent's face. freeform usage is a good way to get the upperhand on the opponent. when you are stuck in close quarters.
 

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freeform ninja tools are, throwing a kunai or shuriken, using flash or smoke bombs, spewing senbon, or utilizing ninja wire. using ninja tools without using 1/3 jutsu per turn.

also yes i am saying that. if there is a nearby terrain that would aid in your escape or defense then use it. for example kicking dirt in the opponent's face. freeform usage is a good way to get the upperhand on the opponent. when you are stuck in close quarters.




I didn't know nothing of that is very useful information so what next
 

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1.Freeform tai/kenjutsu,ninja tools.
2.Realistic aspects to the RP (angle,direction etc.)
3.Elemental combinations,weaknesses,strengths.
4.Using summonings,clones. 5.Battling types and characteristics.

well we spoke of freeform ninja tools a little bit. would you like to touch on 2. or 3.?
 

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1.Freeform tai/kenjutsu,ninja tools.
2.Realistic aspects to the RP (angle,direction etc.)
3.Elemental combinations,weaknesses,strengths.
4.Using summonings,clones. 5.Battling types and characteristics.

well we spoke of freeform ninja tools a little bit. would you like to touch on 2. or 3.?
2 and teach me more about freeform stuff
 

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2 and teach me more about freeform stuff
Angle is a very important part when battling and if used right it can give you the upper hand over your opponent. It's very important to understand the angles in a battle. This is mainly used with ninja tools (shuriken, kunai and other projectiles) but you can also use this with certain techniques that are launched at your opponent. Just by stating the angle you can confuse your opponent.

For example:Ninja 1 and Ninja 2 are fighting. N1 throws 2 kunai at N2, one at the angle of 25 and the other on 75. The lower the angle,the faster the projectile. Most new people would say:"I intercept the kunai with one of my own, blocking them both." If you use angles, this is where you can score.

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If N1 threw the kunai at an angle of 25 first your opponent would probably be defending from that one first thus he would fail to notice the other one. If he blocks the first one then the second one would hit him unless he kept his focus. Thus with one blow you can cause fatal injuries.

Understand? If not tell me and I will elaborate ^^
 

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Angle is a very important part when battling and if used right it can give you the upper hand over your opponent. It's very important to understand the angles in a battle. This is mainly used with ninja tools (shuriken, kunai and other projectiles) but you can also use this with certain techniques that are launched at your opponent. Just by stating the angle you can confuse your opponent.

For example:Ninja 1 and Ninja 2 are fighting. N1 throws 2 kunai at N2, one at the angle of 25 and the other on 75. The lower the angle,the faster the projectile. Most new people would say:"I intercept the kunai with one of my own, blocking them both." If you use angles, this is where you can score.

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If N1 threw the kunai at an angle of 25 first your opponent would probably be defending from that one first thus he would fail to notice the other one. If he blocks the first one then the second one would hit him unless he kept his focus. Thus with one blow you can cause fatal injuries.

Understand? If not tell me and I will elaborate ^^
So if I lauched my sand at certain angle it be harder for them to block for example I launch a pillar of sand at 25 degree angle it would be for them to block same with my clay
 

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So if I lauched my sand at certain angle it be harder for them to block for example I launch a pillar of sand at 25 degree angle it would be for them to block same with my clay
due to gravitational force or g-force for short, if you throw a shuriken at a lower angle it will travel faster than the shuriken thrown straight across or upwards. so if someone tried to say they blocked the shuriken at the same time, then it would be false because one would get to the opponent before the other.

the material doesnt matter if it's sand, clay, metal, water, etc. it's all about distance angles and timing.

understood?
 

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due to gravitational force or g-force for short, if you throw a shuriken at a lower angle it will travel faster than the shuriken thrown straight across or upwards. so if someone tried to say they blocked the shuriken at the same time, then it would be false because one would get to the opponent before the other.

the material doesnt matter if it's sand, clay, metal, water, etc. it's all about distance angles and timing.

understood?
Yes I understand
 

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One more thing about angle. If you have had Earth training, many of the earth techniques (mainly those regarding pillars, spikes etc.) can be applied to angle. You can state the angle on which the pillars pop out, is it diagonal or vertical etc. We will see that when we get to the techniques.

All right,direction.

Direction in the RP can be applied virtually to everything in the RP. Tools, weapons, techniques.There is so much you can do with it and just by stating these kind of things in a battle can make the battle less confusing to both you and your opponent. By stating the direction you can usually get the people from the newer gen confused and that can be your opening.

Usage in battle:
If you use 3 techniques in and direct them in a straight line,the opponent can easily block/avoid them, but if you use one technique to come from the right, one from the left then he won't have a lot of time to protect from both of these. You can meanwhile make a spike or pillar from behind to impale the opponent, using the first two technique as distraction ^^

The same with your clay. if you have clay coming from multiple directions it would make it harder for the opponent to defend. Couple that with timing each technique either one-behind-another or at the same time and it would be even more difficult.
 

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One more thing about angle. If you have had Earth training, many of the earth techniques (mainly those regarding pillars, spikes etc.) can be applied to angle. You can state the angle on which the pillars pop out, is it diagonal or vertical etc. We will see that when we get to the techniques.

All right,direction.

Direction in the RP can be applied virtually to everything in the RP. Tools, weapons, techniques.There is so much you can do with it and just by stating these kind of things in a battle can make the battle less confusing to both you and your opponent. By stating the direction you can usually get the people from the newer gen confused and that can be your opening.

Usage in battle:
If you use 3 techniques in and direct them in a straight line,the opponent can easily block/avoid them, but if you use one technique to come from the right, one from the left then he won't have a lot of time to protect from both of these. You can meanwhile make a spike or pillar from behind to impale the opponent, using the first two technique as distraction ^^

The same with your clay. if you have clay coming from multiple directions it would make it harder for the opponent to defend. Couple that with timing each technique either one-behind-another or at the same time and it would be even more difficult.
Cool let's move on to 3 and after this let do battle training rp style
 

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alright then

Elemental combinations are useful if you know how to use them. The wrong combination can be fatal for you though the right one can win you a battle.

As you may know there are five basic elements: Fire, Water, Wind, Lightning and Earth.

Fire
-Weak to water
-Strong against wind

Water
-Weak against earth
-Strong against fire

Earth
-Weak against lightning
-Strong against water

Lightning
-Weak against wind
-Strong against earth

Wind
-Weak against fire
-Strong against lightning


Now I will post the KG and special element which are created when combing the basic 5:

-Raw Chakra*
-Rain
-Lava
-Wood
-Storm
-Crystal
-Ice
-Dark
-Steel
-Boil
-Scorch
-Sage Chakra*
-Shadow*
-Bugs
-Steam
-Sound
-Blast
-Magnetism
-Sand
-Dust

*These are things/segments that were not created by combining elements but they are mixtures of chakras or clan KG.

Raw chakra:

As far as I know raw chakra doesn't have any major strenghths but its weak to all forms of elemental chakra. Though I think chakra with shape manipulation does better against elemental technqiues but I can't remember exactly.

rain:

Rain is basically treated the same as suiton in terms of strengths/weaknesses. So its weak to earth and strong to fire

lava:

I know lava is strong against earth but I dont know what its weak against i would guess water lol

wood:

Wood is strong against earth/water and weak against lightning ^^

Storm:

Storm is weak to wind and strong against earth and...fire i think?

Crystal:

Crystal is weak against sound cause it shatters it and lightning cuts through crystal. ummmm water and earth are weak against it and can be used to make crystals

Ice:

weak to earth and strong to wind and water

Dark:

Dark is double weak against earth and also weak to water. It is strong against fire and lightning

Steel:

Strong against earth and weak against lightning

Boil:

Boil i know little about I know you can use wind to blow boil release away..

Scorch:

Scorch is strong against water cause it just dries it up and weak against earth i think

Sage chakra:

I think cause of the natural energy that forms sage chakra that it become even with elemental techniques. so it doesnt really have str/wks i think

Shadow:

Shadow is only weak against light cause it screws with the shadows so that can't be controlled. So fire

Bugs:

Weak to everything lol they can be burnt, crushed,fried, sliced or drowned but they are strong against raw cahkra

Steam:

wind can blow away steam i guess, im not sure what its strong against

Sound:

Strong against crystal and weak to earth and wind

Blast:

Strong against earth, weak against lightning

magnetism:

Not really strong against anything and weak to lightning cause it can neutralize the magnetic fields

Sand:
Weak to water and strong against earth and fire

Dust:
Weak against lightning, strong against everything else

now when it comes to clay there isnt because it is jut another form of earth and we know that earth is weak to lightning and strong to water.

does this help?
 

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alright then

Elemental combinations are useful if you know how to use them. The wrong combination can be fatal for you though the right one can win you a battle.

As you may know there are five basic elements: Fire, Water, Wind, Lightning and Earth.

Fire
-Weak to water
-Strong against wind

Water
-Weak against earth
-Strong against fire

Earth
-Weak against lightning
-Strong against water

Lightning
-Weak against wind
-Strong against earth

Wind
-Weak against fire
-Strong against lightning


Now I will post the KG and special element which are created when combing the basic 5:

-Raw Chakra*
-Rain
-Lava
-Wood
-Storm
-Crystal
-Ice
-Dark
-Steel
-Boil
-Scorch
-Sage Chakra*
-Shadow*
-Bugs
-Steam
-Sound
-Blast
-Magnetism
-Sand
-Dust

*These are things/segments that were not created by combining elements but they are mixtures of chakras or clan KG.

Raw chakra:

As far as I know raw chakra doesn't have any major strenghths but its weak to all forms of elemental chakra. Though I think chakra with shape manipulation does better against elemental technqiues but I can't remember exactly.

rain:

Rain is basically treated the same as suiton in terms of strengths/weaknesses. So its weak to earth and strong to fire

lava:

I know lava is strong against earth but I dont know what its weak against i would guess water lol

wood:

Wood is strong against earth/water and weak against lightning ^^

Storm:

Storm is weak to wind and strong against earth and...fire i think?

Crystal:

Crystal is weak against sound cause it shatters it and lightning cuts through crystal. ummmm water and earth are weak against it and can be used to make crystals

Ice:

weak to earth and strong to wind and water

Dark:

Dark is double weak against earth and also weak to water. It is strong against fire and lightning

Steel:

Strong against earth and weak against lightning

Boil:

Boil i know little about I know you can use wind to blow boil release away..

Scorch:

Scorch is strong against water cause it just dries it up and weak against earth i think

Sage chakra:

I think cause of the natural energy that forms sage chakra that it become even with elemental techniques. so it doesnt really have str/wks i think

Shadow:

Shadow is only weak against light cause it screws with the shadows so that can't be controlled. So fire

Bugs:

Weak to everything lol they can be burnt, crushed,fried, sliced or drowned but they are strong against raw cahkra

Steam:

wind can blow away steam i guess, im not sure what its strong against

Sound:

Strong against crystal and weak to earth and wind

Blast:

Strong against earth, weak against lightning

magnetism:

Not really strong against anything and weak to lightning cause it can neutralize the magnetic fields

Sand:
Weak to water and strong against earth and fire

Dust:
Weak against lightning, strong against everything else

now when it comes to clay there isnt because it is jut another form of earth and we know that earth is weak to lightning and strong to water.

does this help?
I knew most of that oy but really helpful info for the combo so combos go with it what explain them
 

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when it comes to the elements that you want. clay and sand i could give you some good combinations.

since clay is another form of earth then that is the way we would treat it

Earth:


When you use an earth jutsu it's always good to follow up with a wind or water or fire for the following reasons:

- Wind, as the opponent will try to use lightning to block the earth or in your case Disable your clay bombs, and wind is strong to lightning

- Water as this will make the opponent shock themselves if they use lightning

- Fire turn the earth for additional damage, because when you use earth, they wont use water as water is weak to earth
 
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