[VS] Sabo vs rob lucci cp0

[Punk Hazard]

Gotta love that..

You gotta love how if someone isn't fanboying Luffy, they're hating on him.

 

[LBeezy]

You gotta love how if someone isn't fanboying Luffy, they're hating on him.

I never said that.

I'm specifically talking about people who say terms like "swallowing" or "riding" whenever they disagree with someone speaking on Luffy.

 

[Dannie]

Gotta love how the immature Luffy haters say people are "swallowing" or "riding" Luffy whenever they disagree.. lol grow up

I call it like it is, and what you have been doing is completely riding him.

And it doesn't quite make much sense to call someone a "hater" of a character when they are in the top 10 of their fav list, now does it?

But I can easily say that you ride Luffy considering you want to call people haters for saying he can't defeat Big Mam.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I never said that.

I'm specifically talking about people who say terms like "swallowing" or "riding" whenever they disagree with someone speaking on Luffy.

Fam, you call everyone a hater if they speak negatively of Luffy in any way. People said they wanna see someone other than Luffy fight Big Mom and Kaido, and you concluded that they were Luffy haters. If I didn't know you better I'd say you were in love with the *****.

 

[LBeezy]

I call it like it is, and what you have been doing is completely riding him.

And it doesn't quite make much sense to call someone a "hater" of a character when they are in the top 10 of their fav list, now does it?

But I can easily say that you ride Luffy considering you want to call people haters for saying he can't defeat Big Mam.

I don't call people haters just because they don't think a character can defeat another character..

I call yall haters if you're using terms such as "swallowing" or "riding" a character just because you disagree with what the person was saying..

Lol grow up b..

Fam, you call everyone a hater if they speak negatively of Luffy in any way. People said they wanna see someone other than Luffy fight Big Mom and Kaido, and you concluded that they were Luffy haters. If I didn't know you better I'd say you were in love with the *****.

I don't call people haters just because they don't think a character can defeat another character..

I call yall haters if you're using terms such as "swallowing" or "riding" a character just because you disagree with what the person was saying..

Lol grow up b..

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't call people haters just because they don't think a character can defeat another character..

I call yall haters if you're using terms such as "swallowing" or "riding" a character just because you disagree with what the person was saying..

Lol grow up b..





I don't call people haters just because they don't think a character can defeat another character..

I call yall haters if you're using terms such as "swallowing" or "riding" a character just because you disagree with what the person was saying..

Lol grow up b..

So...I'm a hater of a character...because of how I view a fanboy of his?

Shit son that logic is air ****ing tighter than a virgin

 

[LBeezy]

So...I'm a hater of a character...because of how I view a fanboy of his?

Shit son that logic is air ****ing tighter than a virgin

No. That's not what would make you a hater bro..

 

[Dannie]

I don't call people haters just because they don't think a character can defeat another character..

You're a clown bro. You got memory loss or something son? You literally said this in the discussion thread when you were arguing with Riker.

Edit: if you believe that Luffy is too weak to beat Big Mom, then that's your fault.. and another reason why you sound like a hater on Luffy..

"if you believe that Luffy is too weak to beat Big Mam, then that's another reason why you sound like a hater."

You assumed that someone sounds like a hater because they don't think that Luffy can beat BM. I mean, what else is it supposed to mean, fool?

I am using terms such as "swallowing" and "riding" because that is exactly what you are doing.

 

[Dannie]

Anyway this is going off topic so I'm done with this discussion.

 

[LBeezy]

You're a clown bro. You got memory loss or something son? You literally said this in the discussion thread when you were arguing with Riker.



"if you believe that Luffy is too weak to beat Big Mam, then that's another reason why you sound like a hater."

You assumed that someone sounds like a hater because they don't think that Luffy can beat BM. I mean, what else is it supposed to mean, fool?

I am using terms such as "swallowing" and "riding" because that is exactly what you are doing.

Denying manga facts against a character does make someone seem like a hater tho..

Now THAT I did say..

 

[ToshiZO]

You're a clown bro. You got memory loss or something son? You literally said this in the discussion thread when you were arguing with Riker.



"if you believe that Luffy is too weak to beat Big Mam, then that's another reason why you sound like a hater."

You assumed that someone sounds like a hater because they don't think that Luffy can beat BM. I mean, what else is it supposed to mean, fool?

I am using terms such as "swallowing" and "riding" because that is exactly what you are doing.

Lmfao that statement right there is so gross.

"If Luffy can't defeat a Yonkou at this point of the manga when her 3rd strongest underling was more than a match for him, you sound like a hater"

C'mon now, I avoid circlejerks like this when there's enough people to point it out but bruh...that is wild.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Denying manga facts against a character does make someone seem like a hater tho..

Now THAT I did say..

WHAT MANGA FACTS?

The only manga fact is, Luffy lost to someone that would lose to Big Mom.

 

[LBeezy]

WHAT MANGA FACTS?

The only manga fact is, Luffy lost to someone that would lose to Big Mom.

Manga facts:

The captain of the crew isn't always the strongest in the crew.

Manga feats show that Luffy is physically stronger than Big Mom.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Manga facts:

The captain of the crew isn't always the strongest in the crew.

Out of 40 pirate crews, only one of them has a captain that isn't the strongest in the crew. That's 2.5%. And you think that's enough to make such a general claim? Wew.

Manga feats show that Luffy is physically stronger than Big Mom.

LMAO and? By manga facts, Luffy is physically stronger than Whitebeard, Shanks, Akainu, Dragon, Teach, and Kaido. You think he's beating all of them too?

 

[Dannie]

Manga facts:

The captain of the crew isn't always the strongest in the crew.

Usually the captains of their respective crews are captains because of
A) they have an insane DF ability
B) because they are overall the most powerful in the crew(haki, etc)

Physical strength ain't all that matters, so stop sleepin' on Big Mam's DF lol.

 

[HashiraMadara]

1. Second in command of the Revolutionary Army has NEVER received the same amount of hype as a Yonko, so the whole "No one doubts his strength and positioning" doesn't apply to Sabo's position. Whatsoever.

2. No one doubts Sabo's strength because he DOES have feats that put him over someone like Luffy, in addition to hype. Sabo does not.

3. Sabo didn't have a better showing at all. He didn't land a single mark on Fujitora, while an injured Luffy was able to land a bruise without using Bounceman or Tankman. Even though Luffy was thrown aside by Fujitora and in all likelihood wouldn't be able to defeat him, he did put up a better showing than Sabo did.

4. You have no basis of comparison between Burgess and Cracker. For all you know, Cracker would whoop Burgess too, so the "commander" argument carries little to no basis.

5. There's no evidence Sabo would be able to withstand a G4 assault

You think Fuji faced Luffy in the same sort of feeling/atmosphere as when his VA Bastile was killed by Sabo? I mean Fuji was happy with Luffy's actions. I doubt he would fight the same way as fighting someone who just killed his VA and blocking his way...

Anyways you being Riker...

 

[LBeezy]

Out of 40 pirate crews, only one of them has a captain that isn't the strongest in the crew. That's 2.5%. And you think that's enough to make such a general claim? Wew.

The best example of what I'm saying is the Shichibukai Buggy.

So it isn't unlikely that out of the 4 Yonko, one of them should be the weakest.. Big Mom is the perfect candidate for this if Oda wants to progress the story at a good pace..

BM's whole catch is that she loves building a family of all races.. Therefore she has ALOT of people under her command, but the funny thing is that it's mostly due to family ties.. by blood..
So if Oda wants to, he can easily have some of her children be beasts and be stronger than her, but obviously they would still obey her because that's their mother. Her yonko status is probably all based off of the large amount of "crew" and territory that she has.. not necessarily her own strength and power.. (similar to how you said yourself that anyone can become Pirate King, not based on their own strength or power. And like how you also deny Garp's description of the Yonko and say that it is based on their crews and territory control, not just their own power alone. These are your words I've seen you post multiple times)
Most of her children are also scared of her because of her DF ability.. something Luffy (and other strong characters) would never be..

Notice how nothing I say has been proven wrong.. and of course it hasn't been proven right either.. this is why it's called theorizing and guessing about what can happen in the future of the story..

I'm not saying that this idea is fact.. I'm using facts to support my idea..

Know the difference please bro..

So someone denying my theory when it hasn't been able to be proven wrong, sounds like a hater because their only reasoning is "Luffy cant beat a Yonko right now, he had a hard time with Cracker."

But it hasn't been stated in the Manga that Cracker is tiers below Big Mom herself..

Usually the captains of their respective crews are captains because of
A) they have an insane DF ability
B) because they are overall the most powerful in the crew(haki, etc)

Physical strength ain't all that matters, so stop sleepin' on Big Mam's DF lol.

Read above Dannie..

 

[HashiraMadara]

The best example of what I'm saying is the Shichibukai Buggy.

So it isn't unlikely that out of the 4 Yonko, one of them should be the weakest.. Big Mom is the perfect candidate for this if Oda wants to progress the story at a good pace..

BM's whole catch is that she loves building a family of all races.. Therefore she has ALOT of people under her command, but the funny thing is that it's mostly due to family ties.. by blood..
So if Oda wants to, he can easily have some of her children be beasts and be stronger than her, but obviously they would still obey her because that's their mother. Her yonko status is probably all based off of the large amount of "crew" and territory that she has.. not necessarily her own strength and power.. (similar to how you said yourself that anyone can become Pirate King, not based on their own strength or power. And like how you also deny Garp's description of the Yonko and say that it is based on their crews and territory control, not just their own power alone. These are your words I've seen you post multiple times)
Most of her children are also scared of her because of her DF ability.. something Luffy (and other strong characters) would never be..

Notice how nothing I say has been proven wrong.. and of course it hasn't been proven right either.. this is why it's called theorizing and guessing about what can happen in the future of the story..

I'm not saying that this idea is fact.. I'm using facts to support my idea..

Know the difference please bro..

So someone denying my theory when it hasn't been able to be proven wrong, sounds like a hater because their only reasoning is "Luffy cant beat a Yonko right now, he had a hard time with Cracker."

But it hasn't been stated in the Manga that Cracker is tiers below Big Mom herself..

Hell Naw! We won't have another Buggy anytime soon. BM got her daughters wrapped around her finger due to fear nothing more. Whenever something happens that looks like it can upset her they get terrified, even Lola ran away from her tyranny. You saw the power of her vivre card

 

[LBeezy]

Hell Naw! We won't have another Buggy anytime soon. BM got her daughters wrapped around her finger due to fear nothing more. Whenever something happens that looks like it can upset her they get terrified, even Lola ran away from her tyranny. You saw the power of her vivre card

Everything you mentioned has to do with her DF ability alone.. "IF you cower or show fear she'll kill you".. something Luffy (and other strong characters) would never do..

And I'm not saying she's equivalent to Buggy.. lol I'm just saying that Buggy is not the strongest in his crew.. yet he is the captain.. this is fact.

This fact can support my idea of Big Mom having some children who can be either equally as strong as her or even slightly stronger.. (most kids usually become stronger than their mom by the time they hit their prime.. unless you're saying that if Ace's mother never died she would be stronger than Ace.. same thing can be said about literally almost every character.. Doflamingo. Akainu. Kaido. Kizaru. Aokiji. Shanks. WB.. etc. Etc.. etc.. how many characters do you think would be weaker than their mom??)

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Everything you mentioned has to do with her DF ability alone.. "IF you cower or show fear she'll kill you".. something Luffy (and other strong characters) would never do..

And I'm not saying she's equivalent to Buggy.. lol I'm just saying that Buggy is not the strongest in his crew.. yet he is the captain.. this is fact.

This fact can support my idea of Big Mom having some children who can be either equally as strong as her or even slightly stronger.. (most kids usually become stronger than their mom by the time they hit their prime.. unless you're saying that if Ace's mother never died she would be stronger than Ace.. same thing can be said about literally almost every character.. Doflamingo. Akainu. Kaido. Kizaru. Aokiji. Shanks. WB.. etc. Etc.. etc.. how many characters do you think would be weaker than their mom??)

Seriously dude...you're not making any sense.....why should anyone for any logical reason think Luffy can beat a yonkou right now in a 1v1? Absolutely nothing. Luffy cant stop by himself and there is no reason to think otherwise. Damn.....I think I'm a hater now since I said this.....

You think Big Mom isn't so great or that one of her commanders is stronger/equal because....she is their parent? Luffy>Dragon & Garp. Corazon>Sengoku(still is adopted dad) & Rebecca>Kyros. If your point is that she is a mom aka a woman, then makes you appear sexist. There are good roads for you take dude.....