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No, Base Raikage's reaction speed was compared to Minato's.
oh okay. Though that doesn't make sense i mean by feats. Can you show me the scan. I can't find that scan.
No, Base Raikage's reaction speed was compared to Minato's.
oh okay. Though that doesn't make sense i mean by feats. Can you show me the scan. I can't find that scan.
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I'll elaborate if need be.
is this accurate translation?
keep cherry picking what you want and don't want to accept from the Databooks and manga and creating your own fanfiction ideas![]()
yes that is VIZ
i'd still like that elaboration though since i still think cee was talking about v1 Ay.
is this accurate translation? and yes i'll like that eleboration since by feats minato has better reactions than base Ay or so i think.
Cee - "Lord Raikage's nerve transmission speed and his reaction speed are on par with Konoha's Yellow Flash ... impressive that they're keep up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated ration chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the Sharingan will be able to keep up with him."
Cee was referring to Base Raikage because he uses the word, "But" to introduce something that contrast something that already precedes it. The perspicuous contrast is that Cee acknowledges Lord Raikage's Base Reaction Speed as being equivalent to Minato's and then uses that as a basis to further emphasize Lord Raikage's reaction speed. If his reactions are already God-like in Base, then he must be Legendary with Raiton Chakra.
He's simply transitioning from Base --> Raiton Cloak.
really since i read the scan thrice i think its pretty clear he is talking about base raikage
Cee - "Lord Raikage's nerve transmission speed and his reaction speed are on par with Konoha's Yellow Flash ... impressive that they're keep up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated ration chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the Sharingan will be able to keep up with him."
Cee was referring to Base Raikage because he uses the word, "But" to introduce something that contrast something that already precedes it. The perspicuous contrast is that Cee acknowledges Lord Raikage's Base Reaction Speed as being equivalent to Minato's and then uses that as a basis to further emphasize Lord Raikage's reaction speed. If his reactions are already God-like in Base, then he must be Legendary with Raiton Chakra.
He's simply transitioning from Base --> Raiton Cloak.
allow me to read it in a different way.
"Lord Raikage's nerve transmission speed and his reaction speed are on par with Konoha's Yellow Flash" says this when Ay was in v1 state. So it should imply he was talking about v1 Ay.
"But Lord Raikage has manipulated ration chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the Sharingan will be able to keep up with him."
Here explains why Ay is able to have those reflexes. This but could mean that he meant to explain why Ay has such good reactions.
like i say "u r as good as me at reading english but you had 6 months extra course to learn it."
Not saying you guys are wrong, but u guys seems as wrong as me because we have minato with reaction feats that may be considered on par with v2 Ay let alone v1 Ay.
1.
a :* except for the fact <would have protested but that he was afraid>
b :* that —used after a negative <there is no doubt but he won>
c :* without the concomitant that <it never rains but it pours>
d :* if not :* unless
e :* than <no sooner started but it stopped> —not often in formal use
2.
a :* on the contrary :* on the other hand :* notwithstanding —used to connect coordinate elements <he was called but he did not answer> <not peace but a sword>
b :* yet <poor but proud>
c :* with the exception of —used before a word often taken to be the subject of a clause <none but the brave deserves the fair — John Dryden>
-Denies just about everything in the Databooks that doesn't fit their arguments.
-Accepts something in the Databooks that fits their argument.
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You can't pick and choose what's true in the Databooks and what's not. There is nothing that can rival teleportation. It is an infinite speed. Zero time passes when Minato teleports. Your DB entry says itself that it's not comparable with the regular shunshin so Ay cannot possibly be ever compared to FTG because infinite speed (instant) is far beyond him. He can never rival FTG... and yet his DB entry says he has speed to rival the Yellow Flash. Cee states his speed and reflexes are on par with the Yellow Flash. Reflexes aren't jutsu, they're physical movements.
re·flex\ˈrē-ˌfleks\
noun
: an action or movement of the body that happens automatically as a reaction to something
Tobi seen his shunshin, not FTG, and said he lives up to his Yellow Flash nickname. KCM Naruto shunshin was said to be just like the Yellow Flahses by Bee, Tsunade, and Kakashi. All people who have witnessed Minatos shunshin as well. Again, one doesn't see Minato when he teleports, it's literally impossible to see instant. Streaks come from physical movements as the manga showed over and over and over and over again.
Tobirama was never renowned for speed and his FTG is just as fast as Minatos. Tobirama was never called a white flash or blue flash. Tobirama is hailed as the fastest of his era, Minato is hailed as the fastest in history. Common sense tells you this isn't FTG because they're equal in that aspect. Ay said he the fastest since Minato died but we know he isn't faster than Genma and company since they can preform FTG so again, common sense tells us he isn't talking about FTG.
This is a case where the manga shits on your argument and you run to the DB for support lol. All the evidence in the manga shits on your argument and there's no way around it so go ahead and keep cherry picking what you want and don't want to accept from the Databooks and manga and creating your own fanfiction ideas![]()
Body Flicker Technique (Shunshin no Jutsu)
Ninjutsu, D-rank, Supplementary
Users: Gaara, Hatake Kakashi, et al
A movement technique with extreme speed like a gust of wind!!
Appearing along with the wind, disappearing like the wind: the ninja’s instantaneous movement technique. This super fast movement is almost impossible to grasp with the naked eye. If seen by an ordinary person, it would seem as if the user has teleported… In reality, the user has vitalized his body with chakra and moved at super speeds. The amount of chakra used up differs depending on the distance and elevation of their stopping point in comparison to the starting point.
The cloud of sand dances in the wind…
Haku’s and Kakashi’s Body Flicker. Dancing leaves and disappearing in an instant like mist.
There are many variations of the Body Flicker for the various villages and user. Gaara’s use includes the Sand Body Flicker. There are also the Mist Body Flicker, Water Body Flicker, and Leaf Body Flicker, among many others.
The word "but" is being used to transition to Raikage's augmentation with Raiton Cloak which infers that Cee wasn't referring to Raiton Cloak previously. Your interpretation leads to a disjointed explanation because the word "but" is not used to further explain something, it's generally used to denote a perspicuous contrast, an objection, and other means as elaborated here:
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I'm not sure, but I need you to give refer to which definition pertained to Cee's usage of it. Contextually, it made more sense to denote a contrast between Raikage's natural reflexes and Raikage's Raiton augmented reactions based on the constant emphasis on his speed.
well if you say so. I didn't use any dictionary and English isn't my first language. I was just trying to make sense of that statement relative to feats shown by both characters. Neither do i go that deep on words, since context is usually more important. It just doesn't make sense to me that base Ay has reactions equal to minato.
I didn't either, but I thought it was necessary when I was still confused on your application of the word because I felt that particular usage of it was unprecedented. I thought it was pretty explicit given that "but" should indicate that whatever preceded that word would be in reference to Base Raikage.
What feats in particular are making you skeptical about this?