Naruto is light speed..

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Do you? Gai's last attack bent the space itself and Madara noticed that. That's a sign of an object moving FTL. Ofc, there's more to FTL in real world but as I said before the laws of physics in Naruto are not exactly the same as the real world.

Light doesn't bend space.
 

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Thats still wouldn't be enough time to collect everyone on earth you idiot.

At speeds faster than light? Yes, it would be. Very easily.

Madara being countered by non-rikudou powered characters proves he's infinitely slower than light speed, which means Naruto and Sasuke moving faster than light can move billions of times faster than he can, giving them plenty of time (relative years to them) from the point he launches himself into the sky, up until the point in time that IT is cast.

This thread is ****ing retarded, as is the youtuber who suggested this asinine concept, and anyone who supports it even remotely.
 
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So you don't know. And I was talking about object moving at FTL and not light itself.

but doesn't storm release have no relation to light speed? why are people assuming a storm release jutsu would be light speed? storm = lightning + water..... i must be missing something here
 

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No one in Naruto is light speed.

They're slow as shit
 

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but doesn't storm release have no relation to light speed? why are people assuming a storm release jutsu would be light speed? storm = lightning + water..... i must be missing something here

The attack Madara used was made of light/laser. I think its in the DB as well. But I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about Gai's space bending feat during night guy. The attack bent space itself which only indicates Gai was moving at light speed or close.
 
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At speeds faster than light? Yes, it would be. Very easily.

Madara being countered by non-rikudou powered characters proves he's infinitely slower than light speed, which means Naruto and Sasuke moving faster than light can move billions of times faster than he can, giving them plenty of time (relative years to them) from the point he launches himself into the sky, up until the point in time that IT is cast.

This thread is ****ing retarded, as is the youtuber who suggested this asinine concept, and anyone who supports it even remotely.

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At speeds faster than light? Yes, it would be. Very easily.

Madara being countered by non-rikudou powered characters proves he's infinitely slower than light speed, which means Naruto and Sasuke moving faster than light can move billions of times faster than he can, giving them plenty of time (relative years to them) from the point he launches himself into the sky, up until the point in time that IT is cast.

This thread is ****ing retarded, as is the youtuber who suggested this asinine concept, and anyone who supports it even remotely.
Again... You are an idiot. You are literally implying that since naruto and sasuke are faster then light they can take billions of people to space by grabing two people at a time before light can reach them... just think how stupid that sounds.

Because that would not make them faster then light that would make them a TRILLIONS TIMES FASTER THEN LIGHT, there is diference.
 

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Again... You are an idiot. You are literally implying that since naruto and sasuke are faster then light they can take billions of people to space by grabing two people at a time before light can reach them... just think how stupid that sounds.

Because that would not make them faster then light that would make them a TRILLIONS TIMES FASTER THEN LIGHT, there is diference.

You really need to learn how to read, dude.

giving them plenty of time (relative years to them) from the point he launches himself into the sky, up until the point in time that IT is cast.
 

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naaaaaaaah son choji moves at a speed far greater than light. so fast he can even escape the gravitational pull of a black hole
 

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Do you? Gai's last attack bent the space itself and Madara noticed that. That's a sign of an object moving FTL. Ofc, there's more to FTL in real world but as I said before the laws of physics in Naruto are not exactly the same as the real world.

where did you hear that benidng of space is a sign an object is moving ftl? Just curious. I'm no physics major but I read the bending of space-time is caused by an object's mass (gravity) not by being ftl.
OP: hell no.
 

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where did you hear that benidng of space is a sign an object is moving ftl? Just curious. I'm no physics major but I read the bending of space-time is caused by an object's mass (gravity) not by being ftl.
OP: hell no.

Well basically any object having mass bends the space time fabric but its very negligible to be noticeable. The higher the mass of an object the, more it bends this fabric. Now the mass of a body in motion is calculated by the following formula..

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where m relativistic is the final mass of the object in motion, m rest is the mass of same object when at rest, v is speed of object, c is speed of light.

Now if you replace the v with a c, that is the velocity of the object in motion reaches light speed the m relativistic becomes infinite bending the space time fabric noticeably. So you're not wrong to say that an objects mass causes the space time bend but any object with mass is able to bend the space time noticeably if its moving at a relativistic speed.

So object with mass moving at relativistic speed does bend the space time to be noticeable. Hope this clears it up for you. And again the laws of physics in NV are similar but not always the same but unless stated or shown to be different they're the same. So based on that Night Guy bending the space only indicates that Gai was moving at relativistic speeds. Ofc, for the readers entertainment and understanding Kishi made it as a flashy dragon and not something that happened in a instant while showing the effects of the attack at the same time.
 

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Well basically any object having mass bends the space time fabric but its very negligible to be noticeable. The higher the mass of an object the, more it bends this fabric. Now the mass of a body in motion is calculated by the following formula..

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where m relativistic is the final mass of the object in motion, m rest is the mass of same object when at rest, v is speed of object, c is speed of light.

Now if you replace the v with a c, that is the velocity of the object in motion reaches light speed the m relativistic becomes infinite bending the space time fabric noticeably. So you're not wrong to say that an objects mass causes the space time bend but any object with mass is able to bend the space time noticeably if its moving at a relativistic speed.

So object with mass moving at relativistic speed does bend the space time to be noticeable. Hope this clears it up for you. And again the laws of physics in NV are similar but not always the same but unless stated or shown to be different they're the same. So based on that Night Guy bending the space only indicates that Gai was moving at relativistic speeds. Ofc, for the readers entertainment and understanding Kishi made it as a flashy dragon and not something that happened in a instant while showing the effects of the attack at the same time.
ok but I don't see how this means Guy is FTL. Relativistic speed is not synonymous with being FTL. It just means something is at a considerable portion of light speed not faster.
Also not getting what you're trying to say with the bold. If I actually replace v with c then the equation becomes invalid because I'd be diving by zero. Guy doesn't need to travel at the speed of light to bend space he just needs to travel at speeds around it so he is not FTL nor does the manga support him being FTL
 
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ok but I don't see how this means Guy is FTL. Relativistic speed is not synonymous with being FTL. It just means something is at a considerable portion of light speed not faster.
Also not getting what you're trying to say with the bold. If I actually replace v with c then the equation becomes invalid because I'd be diving by zero. Guy doesn't need to travel at the speed of light to bend space he just needs to travel at speeds around it.

I agree. That was in a general way I put it but I should have been more precise. The point is, in order to see the amount of bend Kishi showed us, Gai's speed has to be very close to light speed to reach that mass so I don't think achieving light speed or faster in NV is impossible. If there's anything to blame then its how Kishi depicted it for fans to get confused.
Yes replacing v with c gets you zero in the denominator and anything divided by zero is infinity.
 

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Also not getting what you're trying to say with the bold. If I actually replace v with c then the equation becomes invalid because I'd be diving by zero.

You're supposed to perceive it as the limit (Calculus concept) of the equation as v approaches the constant c. The answer then becomes infinity.
 

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OKAY PEOPLE!!! I get it, trust me I really get it! But the fact that we are trying to resolve a fictional reality's lore using our own reality's it will fail! If Kishimoto said it, Good, Naruto's lightspeed, but if not, oh f***ing well! I have a round of Waframe eat my dinner and get on with my life! Haku during part 1 said he uses the reflections of light to move throughout his ice jutsu; Naruto when he first used Bijuu mode jumped the distance worth of 6 american football fields, leaving a trail of light! His speed went up further as he adds sage mode, gains a MUCH bigger gap of a powerup with Rikudou Senjutsu Power. The data books say themselves if anyone bothered to look... Light Fang is a lightspeed attack, and Naruto dodged it! Naruto was fast and strong enough to trade blows with Toneri, Momoshiki and his Powered up mode. All of which were stronger and faster than Kaguya, in summation Madara too! End of story.
 

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Yeah Naruto surely got sharp reflexes .
Even black zetsu admitted it when Naruto dodged kaguya trying to snatch him from behind with her time space. And even Sasuke couldn't dodge it
 
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Naruto is actually faster than light speed. He reacted to and effectively dodged an attack whose speed ranked at light speed, so he was able to go above and beyond that to avoid danger. This also strengthens his durability feats, as moving at a speed beyond light and impacting solid objects while taking little to no effect is a feat in it's own.
 
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