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[DHOH]

That simply means "Red Chakra" or "Nine Tails Chakra" is used interchangeably with "That Jutsu". Both connote the same meaning. I provided you with two illustrations to show that Kishimoto believed that it should be classified as a jutsu even after >100 chapters have passed since the start of Shippuden.

He's to dumb to realize some jutsu are simply chakra.

 

[Mori Jin]

Kishi said in a weird manner. THroughout the series characters mention "that jutsu" when talking about the Kyuubi's power. Before Naruto left to rescue Gaara Jman warned Naruto not to use "that jutsu" which referred to the Kyuubi's power (hence Naruto's sad face shown quickly after). Jman also said that the frog with the key for Naruto's seal was a sign Minato wanted Naruto to complete "that jutsu" which also refers to the Kyuubi's power. When Gaara started transforming Temari referred to it as "that jutsu" for whats it worth.

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Gaara was actually going to use a jutsu though, from the handseals and the way he closed his eyes it's the Feigning Sleep Technique "Tanuki Neiri no Jutsu", so it's obvious she'd call it a jutsu.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Read the manga

Well Sasuke couldn't absorb Momo's bijuu dama.

 

[SenseiSama]

Well Sasuke couldn't absorb Momo's bijuu dama.

Him and Naruto were restricted from using Hagoromo's powers :lol

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Him and Naruto were restricted from using Hagoromo's powers :lol

Where?

And Madara couldn't absorb this..

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Lol, he was actually running away from Naruto.

 

[SenseiSama]

Where?

Boruto movie, apart from Ameno they were only using BSM and EMS feats

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Boruto movie, apart from Ameno they were only using BSM and EMS feats

No I am not asking for your assumptions. Where is it stated that they were restricted to use Hagoromo powers. You should watch the movie again cuz Sasuke sure used ameno and portals before making such claims.

 

[SenseiSama]

No I am not asking for your assumptions. Where is it stated that they were restricted to use Hagoromo powers. You should watch the movie again cuz Sasuke sure used ameno and portals before making such claims.

It's not assumptions it's fact, show me where Sasuke was using 6 Path jutsu and where Naruto was using Six Path Senjutsu

 

[NarutoX28]

Where?

And Madara couldn't absorb this..

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Lol, he was actually running away from Naruto.

Juubidara was preoccupied with using Limbo and much to his consternation, Naruto happened to evade it which left Juubidara in a very vulnerable position.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It's not assumptions it's fact,

I'd have agreed if that was stated anywhere in the movie. But its not and its stupid to think that they'd be restricted just to make the villain look good. Do you even realize what you're claiming. And both Naruto and Sasuke did use there Hago powers.

show me where Sasuke was using 6 Path jutsu

Exactly that's the point being discussed here....

and where Naruto was using Six Path Senjutsu

He did use a partial RSM without using all the tailed beast chakra.

Juubidara was preoccupied with using Limbo and much to his consternation, Naruto happened to evade it which left Juubidara in a very vulnerable position.

Maybe so but I doubt someone like Madara would make such a mistake. At least when he got hit by it I am sure all his attention was on the attack.

 

[SenseiSama]

I'd have agreed if that was stated anywhere in the movie. But its not and its stupid to think that they'd be restricted just to make the villain look good. Do you even realize what you're claiming. And both Naruto and Sasuke did use there Hago powers.

Exactly that's the point being discussed here....

Do you even realize the movie was about Boruto and not Naruto and Sasuke ? Momoshiki is nowhere near the level of JJ Madara which means if Sasuke and Naruto actually used Hagoromo's powers there would be no plot to begin with, it's why Kishi restricted them to EMS and BSM techs.

He did use a partial RSM without using all the tailed beast chakra.

No, RSM grants Six Path Senjutsu which is JuubiJin chakra, that means if he had his cloak activated he would've had his TSB and the same pattern on the back that JuubiJins have. He was using BSM not RSM

 

[NarutoX28]

Maybe so but I doubt someone like Madara would make such a mistake. At least when he got hit by it I am sure all his attention was on the attack.

Most can't rationalize properly under a dire situation. Unless you're Itachi, not even the most astute ninja are going to operate effectively in every situation.

 

[SenseiSama]

Juubidara was preoccupied with using Limbo and much to his consternation, Naruto happened to evade it which left Juubidara in a very vulnerable position.

And on top of that he was tanking 8 Gate Gai's hits, he admitted himself that he was nearly about to die so you can't expect him to casually absorb ninjutsu of RSM Naruto's scale

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Do you even realize the movie was about Boruto and not Naruto and Sasuke ? Momoshiki is nowhere near the level of JJ Madara which means if Sasuke and Naruto actually used Hagoromo's powers there would be no plot to begin with, it's why Kishi restricted them to EMS and BSM techs.

Do you realize what you're claiming? So they had hago's powers and they could've stopped Momo in the village had they used it but the plot won't progress that's why they didn't. That's why Naruto ended up tanking the bijuu dama and Sasuke didn't use preta path...

No, RSM grants Six Path Senjutsu which is the same as the JuubiJin's chakra, that means if he had his cloak activated he would've had his TSB and the same pattern on the back that JuubiJins have. He was using BSM not RSM

This topic has been discussed in detail in the past as well. Hope this helps..

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Most can't rationalize properly under a dire situation. Unless you're Itachi, not even the most astute ninja are going to operate effectively in every situation.

I get what you're saying but its Madara we're talking about. He's just as skilled as Itachi if not more.

 

[NarutoX28]

I get what you're saying but its Madara we're talking about. He's just as skilled as Itachi if not more.

It doesn't matter, you're automatically assuming that Madara could've absorbed it when the premise of the situation makes the opposing argument more plausible. That said, I'm not sure why you're fixated on something that Kishomoto likely didn't give a shit about. The scene was meant to further the plot by forcing Madara into a position where he was most vulnerable and given the jarring feats presented in the War Arc, I highly doubt Kishimoto even cared here.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It doesn't matter, you're automatically assuming that Madara could've absorbed it when the premise of the situation makes the opposing argument more plausible.

Again it comes down to one's opinion on what's possible and what's not. Even when he was getting his ass kicked by Gai he was trying to defend himself where a lot of time he wasn't able to even move.

 

[NarutoX28]

Again it comes down to one's opinion on what's possible and what's not. Even when he was getting his ass kicked by Gai he was trying to defend himself where a lot of time he wasn't able to even move.

It comes down to which argument is more plausible and the circumstances including Juubidara's bemused expression simply infers that Madara was simply ill-prepared to absorb it (not that I think he could absorb all of it in that current, enfeebled state). It's literally a fatuous claim to presume that Madara couldn't even absorb ninjutsu even though he had done so previously without the Juubi with the Juubi acting as a means to further his preexisting Six Paths Power.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Juubidara was preoccupied with using Limbo and much to his consternation, Naruto happened to evade it which left Juubidara in a very vulnerable position.

Not to mention we don't see a absorption barrier around Madara like we've seen in cases where Preta absorbs a technique, Madara made no comment like "I can't asborb it". and he was still recoviring from damage caused by Night guy

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Gaara was actually going to use a jutsu though, from the handseals and the way he closed his eyes it's the Feigning Sleep Technique "Tanuki Neiri no Jutsu", so it's obvious she'd call it a jutsu.

Oops didn't mean to misuse that temari scan shoudl've searched up the chapter. But my other points still stand. The kyuubi's power must've been "that jutsu".

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It comes down to which argument is more plausible and the circumstances including Juubidara's bemused expression simply infers that Madara was simply ill-prepared to absorb it (not that I think he could absorb all of it in that current, enfeebled state). It's literally a fatuous claim to presume that Madara couldn't even absorb ninjutsu even though he had done so previously without the Juubi with the Juubi acting as a means to further his preexisting Six Paths Power.

What I see fatuous is people actually believe that someone like Madara who grew up knowing war all his life won't counter an attack he got hit with. Weakened or not ts JJ Madara we're talking about and the attack Naruto hit him with wasn't his normal FRS.
So again as I said it comes down to opinion.

OT: The answer is no.

 

[NarutoX28]

What I see fatuous is people actually believe that someone like Madara who grew up knowing war all his life won't counter an attack he got hit with. Weakened or not ts JJ Madara we're talking about and the attack Naruto hit him with wasn't his normal FRS.
So again as I said it comes down to opinion.

OT: The answer is no.

I think it's a vacuous presumption that Madara could judiciously react to everything simply because he's experienced just based on the sole principle that he's human.

That said, everything points towards my argument being more plausible as elaborated previously and you're honestly needlessly scrutinizing this feat. Do you honestly think Kishimoto sat down and said, "Well, are people going to assume Madara cannot use Preta Path even though he has a Rinnegan and has used it previously? Nah, probably not. He went with his head which is why the War Arc is an immense clusterfck.