I'm honestly starting to think it may have something to do with Naruto & Sasuke's seals. The Yin & Yang powers may have played a part in sealing Madara's rinnegan as he was inside Kaguya when that happened.
Sasuke can't deactivate Rinnegan because it's not his.
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But he had no chakra left to utilize, losing life-force could also be a cause he lost his doujutsu permanently. For example Sasuke during vote2 wasn't even close to Madara's state. He was low on chakra and couldn't control rinnegan, so he had to close his left eye, otherwise it would cause him pain, but he still had chakra left in his body, which was regenerating and a functional working body in general. Meanwhile Madara was dry as desert and barely breathing, so losing rinnegan aswell is well explained for me.
The RinneSharingan is a result of the Holy Tree with enough chakra. Without that chakra it doesn't become available to her, which is also why Madara didn't get one until he absorbed the tree. Hagoromo didn't even know he was fighting Kaguya, so there'd be no reason to directly target it anyway.
Madara lost the chakra and life-force to maintain his Rinnegan, yes, but that doesn't mean the Rinnegan just vanishes from his DNA. If he was allowed to live and regenerated chakra he'd be able to use it again.
I see what you mean now. Thought we were arguing all this time about him losing Rinnegan, not reactivating it.
Yeah it could be possible. When I was saying that he lost everything I meant things like chakra or life-force to maintain his power, not that literally there were not any tracks of his previous powers left in his body. I was just following that rule where you can't restore light in eyes that lost it, but as you said, his eyes were still weird drawn and maybe they were not completely blind.
Not once in the manga was it ever stated once the Rinnegan is achieved it can't be deactivated but it was stated when an eye is not yours it can't be deactivated so it's kept covered.
Ao
Danzo
Kakashi
Nagato
Obito
Are all perfect examples. You guys are reaching too deep into the realm of speculation and what's worse is that you're still wrong. Madara was shown going from 3T, EMS, to Rinnegan. Him being Edo makes absolutely no difference and no one has posted any evidence stating otherwise. Then we have Madaras going back to EMS to use Genjutsu on the Gokage.
It's very clear Madara can deactivate his Rinnegan. I'm just surprised the manga is over and it's 2017, a whole new generation has begun and people STILL ignore manga facts. Guess there really is no cure for fools.
Ao
Danzo
Kakashi
Nagato
Obito
Are all perfect examples. You guys are reaching too deep into the realm of speculation and what's worse is that you're still wrong. Madara was shown going from 3T, EMS, to Rinnegan. Him being Edo makes absolutely no difference and no one has posted any evidence stating otherwise. Then we have Madaras going back to EMS to use Genjutsu on the Gokage.
It's very clear Madara can deactivate his Rinnegan. I'm just surprised the manga is over and it's 2017, a whole new generation has begun and people STILL ignore manga facts. Guess there really is no cure for fools.
SenseiSama
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Wrong, the Rinnegan he had in Edo form was not real. Did you ever see real life Madara revert back to his normal eyes ? No. What about Hagoromo ? No. In fact, Hagoromo never had Sharingan powers to begin with which means Madara possessing the real Rinnegan resulted in him losing his EMS completely.
Furthermore, Kakashi was able to revert to normal Sharingan from MS so why wasn't Nagato able to revert to Sharingan from Rinnegan ? Because Rinnegan can't be deactivated no different to the Byakugan, it's a completely new dojutsu and NOT a higher level of Sharingan like Mangekyo.
This. The moment you awaken/activate Rinnegan it can't be deactivatedIt is indeed sasuke's peculiar rinnegan however you aren't completely wrong. The databook states hagoromo gifted sasuke's rinnegan and Naruto's RSM. Perhaps hagoromo specifically gifted his chakra which resulted in them awakening their special abilities.
whiteboy2345
Active member
We don't know that for a fact, plus the Rinnegan Nagato had didn't belong to him, I doubt he could have deactivated it if he wanted to.
Madara's Rinnegan was deactivated when he died for the third time wasn't it?
SenseiSama
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The Sharingan Kakashi had didn't belong to him yet he was able to revert from MS to Sharingan, if Rinnegan could be deactivated then Nagato would've been able to revert back to Sharingan to save chakra.
But Rinnegan is a completely different dojutsu, when Madara unlocked it he lost his EMS permanently for Hagoromo's dojutsu, it's like how when you combine two colours you lose both colours for a new colour.
Edo Madara doesn't count because his Rinnegan was a fake and not real, the moment he gained possession of the real Rinnegan he never reverted back to Sharingan like he did in Edo form.
And when he died the third time he had all his powers and chakra stripped from him hence why he was blind, it also further proves that he didn't have ability to deactivate his Rinnegan because if he could he would've died with normal eyes instead of what looks like a blind Rinnegan.
Konoha Orange Spark
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It was never mentioned that Hagoromo gave him his Rinnegan. Hagoromo gave him half of his power. The chakra synced with sasuke's chakra and the result was him awakening his left eye. Hagoromo's chakra syncing with the sharingan caused it to develop like that. we could say it's half rinnegan with EMS.
Hagoromo has both eye power and physical power. we could interpret that Sasuke also developed in terms of physical power.
It has nothing to do with the eye being transplanted, people you listed here are either not Uchiha/Hyuuga so they doesn't have an inborn ability to turn off doujutsu or they had rinnegan.
How come Sasuke could turn off his sharingan in Itachi's transplanted eyes? Cause he's an Uchiha.
What manga fact?
The only fact you've stated here is that when the eye is not yours it can't be deactivated, which is true, but where's the fact that Sasuke's eye isn't his in the first place?
If you say his Rinnegan doesn't belong to him, let me hear you say Naruto's aren't his.
And if it wasn't his, in the same manner Kakashi's eyes weren't his, why then didn't Sasuke's and Naruto's power vanish with Hagoromo when he passed over?
What belongs to someone else should fade as soon as the bestower's chakra depletes in the bestowed, right? We saw that with Kakashi Hatake when he'd borrowed Obito's eye-powers.
You also argue that Sasuke can't deactivate his Rinnegan because it isn't his, and then you bring a very vague example to substantiate your argument: stating that a dead Madara could switch back and forth between Doujutsu. Have you halted in your hastiness and thought of the fact he was un-alive and his body had been touched by Kabuto Yakushi?
Additionally, when Madara gets hold of his Rinnegan he never "once" deactivate it. Can you tell me why?
Your argument is just peppered with a pseudo-belief to promote your favorite character.
We've already told you a lot of times, I've lost count, that the Rinnegan is an entirely new eye. When awakened the awakener can't reverse the process.
Your evidence has only been a "dead" Madara and my evidence has been innumerable "alive" Rinnegan users that ever dwelled in narutoverse. They all were never shown deactivating to a Sharingan or normal eyes.
That's why your argument is dead anyways. You're using a "dead" example.
No one disagrees with those examples because they didn't awaken the Rinnegan on their own, so it's a different case from all the Rinnegan users who awakened theirs on their own.
This should be my last attempt at enlightenment. I can feel my wits dying with this thread
