Sasuke can't deactivate Rinnegan because it's not his.

[Inmate]

My conclusion is it can't be deactivated once awakened. It's quite a price to pay for awakening such great power cause let's admit it, there's no eye so revered and so potent as the aforementioned in narutoverse. All the strongest villains had it. If you don't believe me.

Let's recap a tad-bit:

1. Madara Uchiha

2. Kaguya Otsutsuki

3. Obito Uchiha

4. Nagato Uzumaki

5. Sasuke Uchiha

6. The aliens (Momoshiki)

Toneri is about the only "real" villain in the anime who didn't have it.

My point is: the Rinnegan just like the Mangekyou Sharingan has its "ugly" side. Which is one can't simply deactivate it and since it's as if you got a new eye it only makes sense you can't reverse the process

 

[Exaar]

Not really, when you have a doujutsu that cannot be deactivated(look at Sasuke during vote2) or doesn't have an ability to turn off doujutsu since you're not Uchiha(Kakashi) you have to keep this eye closed untill you have chakra to control it again.

Well since the only option is to close your eyes if you have a Dojutsu you cannot deactivate, Then doesn't Madara having his eyes open and no Rinnegan prove his can be deactivated?.

 

[Genetics]

Not really, when you have a doujutsu that cannot be deactivated(look at Sasuke during vote2) or doesn't have an ability to turn off doujutsu since you're not Uchiha(Kakashi) you have to keep this eye closed untill you have chakra to control it again.

hmmm... maybe not chakra depleted but near the brink of death then?

 

[SeveN797]

hmmm... maybe not chakra depleted but near the brink of death then?

Well since the only option is to close your eyes if you have a Dojutsu you cannot deactivate, Then doesn't Madara having his eyes open and no Rinnegan prove his can be deactivated?.

Madara had blind eyes during his last moments, I'd agree if he had normal eye which is black iris for every Uchiha without doujutsu, then it could mean his rinnegan was deactivated, but Kaguya took everything from him, and since he had Rinnegan that time, which cannot be "converted" to previous forms(sharingan or normal eye)he was simply left with blind eyes.

 

[Genetics]

Madara had blind eyes during his last moments, I'd agree if he had normal eye which is black iris for every Uchiha without doujutsu, then it could mean his rinnegan was deactivated, but Kaguya took everything from him, and since he had Rinnegan that time, which cannot be "converted" to previous forms(sharingan or normal eye)he was simply left with blind eyes.

that makes sense, but what doesn't add up is the inability to switch back between sharingan forms. Madara can't use genjutsu with Rinnegan, so he would have had to always make a clone with EMS to do it for him? In a way that's kind of a step back...

My theory was that Rinnegan was like Kabuto's permanant DSM. When Kabuto lost Oro's chakra, he regained his original form. But when his chakra regenerated, his DSM came back. In addition, he was shown in his DSM form at the orphanage years after so he can't deactivate it. If Madara didnt have that guaranteed Bijuu extracted death rule & had time to replenish chakra, i think his rinnegan would have came back.

 

[SeveN797]

that makes sense, but what doesn't add up is the inability to switch back between sharingan forms. Madara can't use genjutsu with Rinnegan, so he would have had to always make a clone with EMS to do it for him? In a way that's kind of a step back...

My theory was that Rinnegan was like Kabuto's permanant DSM. When Kabuto lost Oro's chakra, he regained his original form. But when his chakra regenerated, his DSM came back. In addition, he was shown in his DSM form at the orphanage years after so he can't deactivate it. If Madara didnt have that guaranteed Bijuu extracted death rule & had time to replenish chakra, i think his rinnegan would have came back.

Losing ability to cast visual genjutsu is like the only rinnegan's downside, unless you've got tomoed rinnegan which maintains it's ability to cast genjutsu.

Im not sure if Kabuto's permanant DSM is the same case. Tbh it's all messed up...you can never restore light in eyes that lost it, instead you have to transplant new eyes, so Madara should not be able to ever awake rinnegan or anything else again in his eyes. If what you said was true, and his rinnegan went off because he didn't have any chakra left in his body, his eyes should be black, like every other Uchiha with turned off doujutsu, but then again since rinnegan is a special case and cannot be turned off, it wouldn't make sense to draw Madara's eyes black, instead Kishi drew them blind informing us, that Madara simply lost every power he possessed.

 

[Genetics]

Losing ability to cast visual genjutsu is like the only rinnegan's downside, unless you've got tomoed rinnegan which maintains it's ability to cast genjutsu.

Im not sure if Kabuto's permanant DSM is the same case. Tbh it's all messed up...you can never restore light in eyes that lost it, instead you have to transplant new eyes, so Madara should not be able to ever awake rinnegan or anything else again in his eyes. If what you said was true, and his rinnegan went off because he didn't have any chakra left in his body, his eyes should be black, like every other Uchiha with turned off doujutsu, but then again since rinnegan is a special case and cannot be turned off, it wouldn't make sense to draw Madara's eyes black, instead Kishi drew them blind informing us, that Madara simply lost every power he possessed.

i think he went blind because of the Bijuu extraction (or loss of Bijuu), if it were any other case that his chakra was deleted i think his eyes would have been black. I feel that if Madara was to get the Juubi sealed back inside of him he may have regained his vision/rinnegan

 

[Holy God]

Losing ability to cast visual genjutsu is like the only rinnegan's downside, unless you've got tomoed rinnegan which maintains it's ability to cast genjutsu.

Im not sure if Kabuto's permanant DSM is the same case. Tbh it's all messed up...you can never restore light in eyes that lost it, instead you have to transplant new eyes, so Madara should not be able to ever awake rinnegan or anything else again in his eyes. If what you said was true, and his rinnegan went off because he didn't have any chakra left in his body, his eyes should be black, like every other Uchiha with turned off doujutsu, but then again since rinnegan is a special case and cannot be turned off, it wouldn't make sense to draw Madara's eyes black, instead Kishi drew them blind informing us, that Madara simply lost every power he possessed.

On what basis do you believe that he lost all his power? When Obito and Hagoromo lost the Ten-Tails they did not lose their powers. Besides, Madara's eyes have more detail than just the pupil, which is what Itachi's blind eyes look like. The whiteness is probably from lack of life-force.

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[Alastor]

Madara was a victim of Six Paths Chibaku tensei which seals away Dojutsu + got all the extra powers previously had extracted (this includes Hashirama cells as proven by not having the face on his chest anymore). Him not having an active Rinnegan by the time he died is nothing to right books about.

 

[SeveN797]

i think he went blind because of the Bijuu extraction (or loss of Bijuu), if it were any other case that his chakra was deleted i think his eyes would have been black. I feel that if Madara was to get the Juubi sealed back inside of him he may have regained his vision/rinnegan

Obito wasn't blind after Bijuu extraction. Bijuu's doesn't have anything common with doujustu, they were responsible for the second part of sage power - rsm. Madara awakened rinnegan back when he was alive during his old age, not after becoming juubi jin, I can't see why juubi or bijuu's would have anything to do with his rinnegan.

On what basis do you believe that he lost all his power? When Obito and Hagoromo lost the Ten-Tails they did not lose their powers. Besides, Madara's eyes have more detail than just the pupil, which is what Itachi's blind eyes look like. The whiteness is probably from lack of life-force.

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Obito or Hagoromo were not vessels for Kaguya's body and power. They only lost ten-tails, Kaguya didn't drain anything from them.

 

[DHOH]

What a complete retard thread..

 

[Holy God]

Obito or Hagoromo were not vessels for Kaguya's body and power. They only lost ten-tails, Kaguya didn't drain anything from them.

Kaguya having taken over makes no difference. What evidence is there of this?

 

[Holy God]

Madara was a victim of Six Paths Chibaku tensei which seals away Dojutsu + got all the extra powers previously had extracted (this includes Hashirama cells as proven by not having the face on his chest anymore). Him not having an active Rinnegan by the time he died is nothing to right books about.

That was an error corrected in the official volume release.

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[SeveN797]

Kaguya having taken over makes no difference. What evidence is there of this?

Madara lying down on the brink of death, without any chakra or his doujutsu ?

 

[Genetics]

Obito wasn't blind after Bijuu extraction. Bijuu's doesn't have anything common with doujustu, they were responsible for the second part of sage power - rsm. Madara awakened rinnegan back when he was alive during his old age, not after becoming juubi jin, I can't see why juubi or bijuu's would have anything to do with his rinnegan.

Obito still had the Gedou Mazo in his body when he lost the Juubi. In addition, he had black Zetsu attached to him, which is a huge game changer (being attached to him made him unaffected by IT). Right after BZ detached from Obito, Naruto used his seal to heal part of him (which was strong enough to defy death from 8 gates)

 

[SeveN797]

Obito still had the Gedou Mazo in his body when he lost the Juubi. In addition, he had black Zetsu attached to him, which is a huge game changer (being attached to him made him unaffected by IT). Right after BZ detached from Obito, Naruto used his seal to heal part of him (which was strong enough to defy death from 8 gates)

I remember this all, but I still don't see any connection to doujutsu in all of this. He kept both of his eyes after losing bijuu's and even before Zetsu attached to him, so only Gedou Mazo could make difference here, although Im still not sure if that was it.

 

[Holy God]

Madara lying down on the brink of death, without any chakra or his doujutsu ?

Obito and Hagoromo were also paralyzed after extraction. Madara's eyes look different than Itachi's blind eyes.

 

[Genetics]

I remember this all, but I still don't see any connection to doujutsu in all of this. He kept both of his eyes after losing bijuu's and even before Zetsu attached to him, so only Gedou Mazo could make difference here, although Im still not sure if that was it.

I dont think it was just the Bijuu extraction that took Madara's eyesight, Kaguya also may have played a huge role in doing so like you said. In Obito's case, Kaguya never possessed him/drained him of his powers so the bijuu extraction took less of a direct toll than it did for Madara.

 

[SeveN797]

Obito and Hagoromo were also paralyzed after extraction. Madara's eyes look different than Itachi's blind eyes.

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Madara absorbed all chakra from IT victims which next Kaguya took over. I don't see a reason why Kaguya would leave Madara's own chakra and not take it aswell, or actually it all mixed out and Kaguya just took it all. Madara was spit out with nothing left.

 

[Holy God]

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Madara absorbed all chakra from IT victims which next Kaguya took over. I don't see a reason why Kaguya would leave Madara's own chakra and not take it aswell, or actually it all mixed out and Kaguya just took it all. Madara was spit out with nothing left.

Correct. Madara lost all his chakra and life-force. That doesn't mean he loses the innate ability of utilizing chakra.