The fact this is your go to argument says a lot. :lol Anyway, how does Naruto outlast? By running and dodging all attacks? Yeah, no. Kakashi hunts him down and kills him if he tries to run the entire match. Flight isn't an excuse as PS can fly. If he pulls out the Avatar he gets bound. Kakashi and Minato make his projectiles useless. There is no scenario where Naruto wins.
I didn't read most of the walls of text on the thread, so here is my take:
Anything in Hashirama's arsenal besides SS and the gates shouldn't even be considered against someone of RSM Naruto's level.
Countering the gates is simple. When the gates are utilized, all Naruto has to do is to cancel his avatar. We've seen how fast Naruto can activate and deactivate his avatar.
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None of the combatants on the team lack the speed to expose this gap. Sasuke was literally meters away from Naruto along, having previously distracted Naruto with the smoke, and still couldn't get to him before Naruto pulled out his avatar.
Let's address the misconceptions regarding Shinsusenju. It doesn't have the fire power to destroy Naruto's avatar, neither can it survive a casual onslaught from either Naruto in his cloaked self or his avatar.
The beloved scan used to say that the explosion from Madara vs Hashirama is bigger than Naruto vs Sasuke
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We can agree that the explosion makes the mountains look like tiny land marks. But I can pull the same comparison with chunks of CT Naruto and Sasuke casually destroyed.
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Both the explosion and the size of the CT chunks were showcased next to mountain ranges. The entire body of the CT>>>>chunks that dwarfed mountain ranges. And what's next is that a single of those BFRS from Naruto that destroyed those CTs produce an explosion at least 4 times bigger than the body of the CT itself. A CT and a single explosion is shown next to each other, so anyone can see the difference between the size of CT and the explosion.
Countering SS is easy. You either need:
-Something done like above
-YFRS
YFRS is the easier option, as it bisected shinjuu in half. SS will suffer the same fate, as its hands were getting chopped by inferior susanoo blades. Let alone a rasengan showcased for its cutting power. It'll bisect SS in half like butter.
Minato shouldn't even be discussed. He's too slow to do anything, and his firepower is ass.
Kakashi is main issue here because of Kamui, but he can't wrap Naruto, and his PS is inferior to Naruto's avatar. Naruto beats him after he's finished the other two.
If team 1 wasn't allowed to use teamwork, Naruto should win. Against kakashi, he'd just have to dodge the shurikens or blast them so that they warp the projectiles. He can either bust PS open with his nukes or he could outlast kakashi since he wasn't able to keep PS up that long.
Hashirama would only require a clone that uses youton rasenshuriken, as it easily destroys anything hashi has.
Minato would require clones due to his tricky S/T, but he ultimately wouldn't be able to hit naruto due to naruto's speed and would evetually get nuked.
However, with Minato bailing his comrades out (especially kakashi) and warping attacks that can actually do real damage against naruto, I think team one has a legit shot at this.
This version of Naruto would be pushed to a mid high difficulty against Kakashi alone, against all three of them I'm inclined to say he'd lose. Any of these opponents would lose 1v1 against him but together they could win. Hashirama could use his God Gates to temporarily restrain him, the shit was pinning down the Juubi. He can't get out without undoing his avatar, but if he does that he gets pasted with PS. As for his offense, his CBFRS isn't large enough to get away from being transported back at him with Minato's Guiding Thunder Barrier, or it gets warped with Kamui Shuriken which each warps the size of his own PS (will dig for the scan later). Bijuudama get warped or transported away as well, and Naruto would be pressured the entire match with Kakashi throwing Kamui Shuriken at him, Chojo Kebutsu which at the very least could wreak havoc and possibly destroy his avatar, and Minato who can transfer chakra to Kakashi and warp away his attacks. So I'd go with team high extreme diffing this battle.
And lol. The Shinju's durability feats are trash compared to Hashirama's upper tiered Mokuton Jutsu. YRS is blocked. BDFRS is warped away by Kamui Shuriken.
Sorry KG, I wouldn't expect anymore than random posts here and there from me anymore. Officially going into retirement. Although my opinion remains the same on Naruto taking this
Before I go though, I'll finally concede that Non Rikudo versions of Naruto lose to Hashirama
Sorry KG, I wouldn't expect anymore than random posts here and there from me anymore. Officially going into retirement. Although my opinion remains the same on Naruto taking this
Before I go though, I'll finally concede that Non Rikudo versions of Naruto lose to Hashirama