[Predictions] Naruto Manga 505 Discussion and 506 Predictions

[Scorps]

Can everyone stop arguing about Madara's and Minato's techniques? Minato is dead and Madara is a shell of his former self. They were both strong, really strong. The argument about hokages is dumb too, you need to love your village and be strong, yes both. Do not assume anything, if you assume, then you are guessing, there is no way to support anything you assume. Again great chapter though.

Sorry, but the tread has the title Naruto manga 505 Discussion and 506 predictions. It serves for that. So that we can discuss and explain our opinions. If we can't assume things, then we can't predict or discuss anything and, as such, this tread would have no place in the forum...this or any other tread. Assuming and Guessing are different, because one is served by reasoning and logic, the other is something you take out of a bag just because.

to: Astral;2110220- People help me out, whats our conspiracy theory right now

That everything you being told on the TV, new and media, is a complex set of variables and equations that keep the status quo as it is while at the same time masking the fact that a handful of people are systematically undermining peoples ability to think for themselves by reeducating the masses thru dumb down measures know as entertainment the same forms previously mentioned. This is of course being purposefully down so that they can in essence rule the entire world.

how is that for the latest conspiracy. Want more...check out
Prisonplatnet.net among other sites...It'll rock your world!

Wow...now I see...

 

[Stein]

to: Astral;2110220- People help me out, whats our conspiracy theory right now

That everything you being told on the TV, new and media, is a complex set of variables and equations that keep the status quo as it is while at the same time masking the fact that a handful of people are systematically undermining peoples ability to think for themselves by reeducating the masses thru dumb down measures know as entertainment the same forms previously mentioned. This is of course being purposefully down so that they can in essence rule the entire world.

how is that for the latest conspiracy. Want more...check out
Prisonplatnet.net among other sites...It'll rock your world!

That's so true it actually hurts my brain. When I look at germany right now... oh dear...

 

[jazzuchiha]

Sasuke is going to have more than that now remember? He has itachi's eyes... new powers for him! I really want them to fight now... xD

Yeah your right i want them to fight as well, but before that i want my boy sasuke to take care of that undead itachi because that's whack and disgraceful to itachi and sasuke.

 

[Stein]

Yeah your right i want them to fight as well, but before that i want my boy sasuke to take care of that undead itachi because that's whack and disgraceful to itachi and sasuke.

Dude, when Sasuke finds out about Kabuto and that he's using Itachi's dead body... Damn, he will go soooooooooo nuts and destroy everything in his field of vision.

 

[jazzuchiha]

All right, let's say it isn't coincidence. The title of Hokage means nothing, then. Only something for the powerful and fortunate to obtain, is what it is. That means Konohamaru's dream can no longer be realized, because there are multitudes of ninja more powerful than him, is that correct? Suddenly the word "Hokage" means close to nothing anymore.

Your right because danzo was hokage while tsunade was in a coma and you saw what happen to him by 16 year old uchiha..

 

[jazzuchiha]

Dude, when Sasuke finds out about Kabuto and that he's using Itachi's dead body... Damn, he will go soooooooooo nuts and destroy everything in his field of vision.

LOL!! Yeah he will but that will also be a good time to show off his new powers anyway and i really never like kabuto anyway especially now that he's making undead versions of people.

 

[jazzuchiha]

i wonder how sasuke is going to fight naruto i mean on top of having his wind rasengan, sage form he now has the 9 tails powers with super sensing powers and of coarse a entire village of ninjas willing to help him while only thing i see sasuke has is itachi's eyes which, true are very powerful and all but still.........

I'm not worry because knowing how naruto is he's going fight my boy one on one like they were destined to and he made perfectly clear to kakashi that he's fighting sasuke so the question is will naruto be able to handle the power of sasuke uchiha?

 

[jazzuchiha]

Okay... I am really surprised that nobody has even noticed this.

Firstly, does anyone here still remember when Kaiba, Naruto, and Sakura (and their friends) were hunting Sasuke, and the trail vanished? They said then that "teleportation is just really fast movement".

Following from that, if anyone has enough chakra, and can use it quickly enough, then anyone can do the FTG technique without seals, or kunai, etc.

It's just speed, that's all it is.

Finally, FTG is not a space-time jutsu like a few others, it just allows you to move faster by giving you a spot to know exactly where to go, even if you cannot directly see it, by using kunai or seals.

Therefore, what Naruto did in this chapter is simply a teleportation technique, which is essentially extremespeed movement. When (whats his name/mental blank) said "He's not quite at the 4th's level" he meant that he was more powerful than Minato, but couldn't utilize this power yet, so Minato still surpasses him so far.

As soon as Naruto has some time to practice, Madar, Sasuke, and the other enemies he has yet to face (I have no doubt that there would be more), will have no chance. Using the kyuubi's chakra, he can go and learn extra chakra control. If he does... he could do the rasen shuriken without clones, and create clones without wasting chakra... hell, with the fox's chakra, which is thousands of times more powerful than his, he could create enough clones to cover the entire Earth.

I heard several people pondering whether or not Naruto will combine Sage Mode and Kyuubi/SO6P mode. THis should be friggin' EPIC if he does... because the Sage mode balances chakra and natural energy with physical energy. Since the Kyuubi's chakra could potentially augment his physical energy as well as his own chakra, he could gather infinite amounts of natural energy without being turned into a frog statue. Nobody could stand up to him. EVER.

Naruto has limitless power under his control. Tread carefully, Sasuke, Madara, and all the rest of you fools.

I like your not your naruto spirit, but underestimating your opponent is the first step to defeat, you should save these words when naruto wins and that's if he wins that is you have yet to see sasuke's full power...

 

[Honord Sage]

I am thinking that Yamato, Guy and Bee now have the task of convincing the Kage's into changing their minds and allowing Naruto to participate in the war, they must change their ruling.

 

[Stein]

I am thinking that Yamato, Guy and Bee now have the task of convincing the Kage's into changing their minds and allowing Naruto to participate in the war, they must change their ruling.

Do you really think Naruto or Killer Bee wouldn't just step in and kick some ass? Naruto does what he likes to do he already showed us when he escaped from Yamato to find Sasuke. ^^

 

[minatoisagod]

but truly if orochimaru use the white snake body change tech minato is cannot defeat him nobody can resist him only sharingan..... tats all folks sorry minatotards.....

So your saying Pain, Raikage, naruto, killer bee would lose to Oro because they don't have sharingan. PLZ minato would still beat Oro

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

So your saying Pain, Raikage, naruto, killer bee would lose to Oro because they don't have sharingan. PLZ minato would still beat Oro

Oro was very strong but really not as strong as Minato. Oro was sorta like easily defeated by Itachi who is an exceptional Sharingan user with MS and Mianto fought Madara who is thought to be the strongest Uchiha. In any case Those guys above you mentioned would have been able to defeat Oro.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Absolutely right he is like anti Minato though he won't accept it and he is obsessed with Madara thinking even if Madara is defeated Madara got defeated willingly not that Madara's opponent was stronger and smarter than him

Those who are quick to blame others for perceived wrongs are also quick to hide their own. But I won't mention them, because that would be "anti-Minato," now wouldn't it?

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Oro was very strong but really not as strong as Minato. Oro was sorta like easily defeated by Itachi who is an exceptional Sharingan user with MS and Mianto fought Madara who is thought to be the strongest Uchiha. In any case Those guys above you mentioned would have been able to defeat Oro.

Have you forgotten about Edo Tensei? What if Orochimaru fights Minato, and he uses that very technique to summon the First and Second Hokages? What is Minato going to do, then? The revived can only be defeated if their souls are removed, and that spells Shiki Fuujin. Remember what happened to Hiruzen? Not to disappoint you, since you obviously favor Minato over any other character, but I don't think (remember, my opinion, not treating it as fact) Minato's speed would help him in that situation. But of course I'm "anti-Minato," am I not? You will come up with an ingenious explanation as to how Minato would win in even that situation, without having to use Shiki Fuujin.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

I am really eager to see Sasuke's EMS because now that Naruto has gotten so stronger its time for Sasuke. Kabuto is also a twist in the manga and we still have a lot to know about Madara. And what about the Ninja War will there be a time skip actually I want to see how the war happens and hopefully we will see Naruto use FTG just like his father and then every ninja will fear Narutoxd and Sasuke will just keep on using some weird ass powerful techs too making these two the strongest. But the point is what can Madara can if Sasuke exceeds him I know that Madara is using Sasuke but he should also know that Sasuke will ultimately go after him because he also helped in the Uchiha massacre. There has to be a plan which Madara has and that's why he isn't so concerned about Sasuke becoming so powerful.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

So your saying Pain, Raikage, naruto, killer bee would lose to Oro because they don't have sharingan. PLZ minato would still beat Oro

Of course he would. See, what's interesting to me is, I favor Madara as a character, and each time when a manga chapter is released, and I create dicussion about him, I am attacked every single time by a few select individuals. However, the same who do for Minato, aren't. Care to explain as to how Minato would win if Orochimaru used Edo Tensei to summon the First and Second Hokages? He just would, because he is the Fourth Hokage, correct?

 

[Joegonzo]

You too, along with scorps, are correct. That means everyone in the past, who has tried to become Hokage, had their dreams crushed because of an inevitability that they would never be able to become the strongest ninja of their village. What are people chasing, then? Essentially, the title of Hokage is something reserved only for those who are destined to become one. It turns out Neji was right, destiny rules people's lives, doesn't it? Neji was destined to lose because Naruto was the son of the Fourth Hokage. Even Rock Lee's determination the size of the Nine-Tailed Fox will never get him to the the title of Hokage, isn't that right? That's the one thing that will never be attainable by anyone, because they are not the most powerful in the village.

"Orochimaru was not stronger than Minato either." You take this off a statement Anko said that has nothing to do with the subject? Anko only said that she wished the Fourth were alive to fight Orochimaru today, not "the Fourth is stronger than Orochimaru." Where did you deduce such a conclusion? Next, "Minato was considered by many to be the strongest Hokage." How many people have considered or now hold Minato as the most powerful of Hokages? Would it be too much trouble to ask you to find some proof of these words? Just because Anko wanted Minato to fight Orochimaru does not mean he is the most powerful Hokage. His early death was why Anko wanted him to face Orochimaru today. He had an enormous untapped potential due to the fact he died in his twenties, but that's all it's going to remain, unfortunately.

Yea pretty much on the first part. Kakashi may be the next because he is the strongest jonin and Naruto will follow because he is the strongest ninja period, but is a little too young to lead now. Then just maybe it will be Konohamaru because of how far he already is at such a young age. He is also going to be very powerful.

What else is there to get from that statement? Why else would Anko want the 4th Hokage to be there if she thought he wouldn't have won? Minato had jutsu that were almost impossible to beat. Who other than someone else with a similar tech could beat the FTG? How would you be able to catch something like that? Especially when the user is a genius ninja with other powerful techs. Also, if Orochimaru was stronger than him, why didn't he attck the village when Minato was Hokage?

"His early death was why Anko wanted him to face Orochimaru today. He had an enormous untapped potential due to the fact he died in his twenties, but that's all it's going to remain, unfortunately"

Another thing, when you tell me to provide proof, don't come back with a statment that you have no proof to back up either. It just makes you look bad. Tell me who could have beaten Minato? His justsu are just too hard to counter for it to be possible. Maybe the second hokage, but that depends on the level of his space/time tech.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I am thinking that Yamato, Guy and Bee now have the task of convincing the Kage's into changing their minds and allowing Naruto to participate in the war, they must change their ruling.

Or, even if the Kages refuse to allow Naruto to participate in the war, they will still send him out in the battlefield and watch him annihilate his enemies with the amazing strength he has gotten. My only question is, if Naruto fights Kabuto sometime during the Fourth Shinobi War, how is Naruto going to deal with Kabuto's Edo Tensei summons, since he doesn't have Shiki Fuujin like the Third and Fourth Hokages did? Will he go straight for Kabuto, the master controlling his puppets? It'll be interesting to see.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Have you forgotten about Edo Tensei? What if Orochimaru fights Minato, and he uses that very technique to summon the First and Second Hokages? What is Minato going to do, then? The revived can only be defeated if their souls are removed, and that spells Shiki Fuujin. Remember what happened to Hiruzen? Not to disappoint you, since you obviously favor Minato over any other character, but I don't think (remember, my opinion, not treating it as fact) Minato's speed would help him in that situation. But of course I'm "anti-Minato," am I not? You will come up with an ingenious explanation as to how Minato would win in even that situation, without having to use Shiki Fuujin.

Well for your information there is a way to beat those revived by the Edo Tensei tech. Remember that when Sarutobi destroyed both of their legs they got those back but what if some powerful tech is used to destroy that body completely then the revived souls cant come back because they will need another body.

 

[Joegonzo]

Of course he would. See, what's interesting to me is, I favor Madara as a character, and each time when a manga chapter is released, and I create dicussion about him, I am attacked every single time by a few select individuals. However, the same who do for Minato, aren't. Care to explain as to how Minato would win if Orochimaru used Edo Tensei to summon the First and Second Hokages? He just would, because he is the Fourth Hokage, correct?

Shinigami would be able to take out all of them. The only reason Hiruzen was unable to get Oro too is because of his age. Also, Yes I would call it a victory for Minato to take out all his enemies even if he died.

No one tries to attack you. It is the way you present your posts. You post ideas as fact and argue a point even when it is clear you are wrong. That is called stubborness. lol. If you would present you ideas or opinions as what they are then people would go much lighter on you. Another thing you seem to hate some characters. It seems like you are looking for things to prove the 4th Hokage isn't as great as he actually is. He really is. I do not favor any character in the show. For now, I argue for Minato because I believe you are wrong. I have agreed with you before on other characters when i thought you were right.