[VS] Pain Vs mid tier Akatskuki

[Nimaiya]

Pain wins with mid-high difficulty at the most.

Kisame and Kakuzu's Ninjutsu are absorbed easily by Preta Path. If they try attacking together from different angles to prevent absorption then Animal Path can use Cerberus to tank it and really the vast majority of their jutsu. Only thing that will outright kill the Cerberus and hit Pain would be C0 and C4 due to the nature of the jutsu. Iron Sand would also poison it. Luckily Iron Sand can be evaded or repelled by Shinra Tensei. C4 can be blown away too, not to mention it'd kill his teammates if he used it. Same goes for C0.

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Pain has an interval, for about 5 seconds, before he can use shinra/bansho again. + the more power he uses, the longer he must wait before he can use that technique again.
Kakuzo can easily defeat an absorb pain. Aka Preta. Deidara can deal with summoning path (even 1 bomb was enough, to take out 3 tailed beast, what is Cerber ? Deidara can completly destroy cerber, that's why it won't be able to regenerate and divide.
The only problem here are Deva and Preta. After taking out other 4, Kisame will deal with Deva (Suiton : DaibakushuiShoha)

 

[KidGamer65]

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Pain has an interval, for about 5 seconds, before he can use shinra/bansho again. + the more power he uses, the longer he must wait before he can use that technique again.
Kakuzo can easily defeat an absorb pain. Aka Preta. Deidara can deal with summoning path (even 1 bomb was enough, to take out 3 tailed beast, what is Cerber ? Deidara can completly destroy cerber, that's why it won't be able to regenerate and divide.
The only problem here are Deva and Preta. After taking out other 4, Kisame will deal with Deva (Suiton : DaibakushuiShoha)

This argument doesn't even make sense because you are assuming that Pain will split up and take each one on individually even though there's no reason for that to happen. Kakuzu being able to defeat Preta Path doesn't mean he'll be able to kill Preta Path w/ Asura, Animal and Deva interfering. 5 seconds isn't enough to exploit the time limit when the 5 other paths can block or counter their offensive techniques even without Deva's help.

-Cerberus tanked FRS. No attack they possess is putting it down. That blocks all of Deidara's attacks.
-Kakuzu's attacks are absorbed by Preta and his physical attacks are overpowered and countered by Asura Path.

Lmao. I pretty much addressed all of this already.

 

[Nimaiya]

This argument doesn't even make sense because you are assuming that Pain will split up and take each one on individually even though there's no reason for that to happen. Kakuzu being able to defeat Preta Path doesn't mean he'll be able to kill Preta Path w/ Asura, Animal and Deva interfering. 5 seconds isn't enough to exploit the time limit when the 5 other paths can block or counter their offensive techniques even without Deva's help.

-Cerberus tanked FRS. No attack they possess is putting it down. That blocks all of Deidara's attacks.
-Kakuzu's attacks are absorbed by Preta and his physical attacks are overpowered and countered by Asura Path.

Lmao. I pretty much addressed all of this already.

Okay...
First of all, they probably gonna split up. Otherwise, they won't have chance to win. If they don't split up, the scenario will be next : Team will teak out absorb Pain first, then, Deidara or Kakuzo, force pain to use strong Shinra Tensei (after that, Pain (all of them) won't have a defense) ---> Kisame :

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Deidara :

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(1 is enough, to take out Sanbi, so... He can use 2-3 of these birds to kill them for sure)

 

[KidGamer65]

Okay...
First of all, they probably gonna split up. Otherwise, they won't have chance to win. If they don't split up, the scenario will be next : Team will teak out absorb Pain first, then, Deidara or Kakuzo, force pain to use strong Shinra Tensei (after that, Pain (all of them) won't have a defense) ---> Kisame :

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Deidara :

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(1 is enough, to take out Sanbi, so... He can use 2-3 of these birds to kill them for sure)

This argument doesn't even make sense because you are assuming that Pain will split up and take each one on individually even though there's no reason for that to happen. Kakuzu being able to defeat Preta Path doesn't mean he'll be able to kill Preta Path w/ Asura, Animal and Deva interfering. 5 seconds isn't enough to exploit the time limit when the 5 other paths can block or counter their offensive techniques even without Deva's help.

-Cerberus tanked FRS. No attack they possess is putting it down. That blocks all of Deidara's attacks.
-Kakuzu's attacks are absorbed by Preta and his physical attacks are overpowered and countered by Asura Path.

Lmao. I pretty much addressed all of this already.







You repeated the same thing I just replied to hence me repeating the same thing.

 

[Nimaiya]

"Kakuzu being able to defeat Preta Path doesn't mean he'll be able to kill Preta Path w/ Asura"
Okay. To say shortly, Kakuzo (in 1/1 combat) easily can defeat an absorb pain (without his other 4 hearts being pulled out). How ? When a Preta Path is absorbing jutsu, he can't move. so, Kakuzo can use fire style to attack him, and also attack with an iron skin hand and take his head off.
Asura weren't able to deal with chojis or his father's fist, when Kakuzo didn't even get a scratch, with his iron skin (against choji's techinque). So...
"5 seconds isn't enough to exploit the time limit when the 5 other paths can block or counter their offensive techniques"
Can you tell me, exactly, about other's offensive techniques (only absorb). They have only 1 unique technique. They do not have an offensive technique). Btw, against Deidara's bombs, Deva have to use a large Shinra Tensei (otherwise, other Pain's will get a damage). As you said, they aren't separated.
The only probelm here is an absorb pain. After taking him out, Deidara and Kisame easily can win.

 

[KidGamer65]

"Kakuzu being able to defeat Preta Path doesn't mean he'll be able to kill Preta Path w/ Asura"
Okay. To say shortly, Kakuzo (in 1/1 combat) easily can defeat an absorb pain (without his other 4 hearts being pulled out). How ? When a Preta Path is absorbing jutsu, he can't move. so, Kakuzo can use fire style to attack him, and also attack with an iron skin hand and take his head off.
Asura weren't able to deal with chojis or his father's fist, when Kakuzo didn't even get a scratch, with his iron skin (against choji's techinque). So...
"5 seconds isn't enough to exploit the time limit when the 5 other paths can block or counter their offensive techniques"
Can you tell me, exactly, about other's offensive techniques (only absorb). They have only 1 unique technique. They do not have an offensive technique). Btw, against Deidara's bombs, Deva have to use a large Shinra Tensei (otherwise, other Pain's will get a damage). As you said, they aren't separated.
The only probelm here is an absorb pain. After taking him out, Deidara and Kisame easily can win.

Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. This isn't 1 on 1 combat so none of this matters. If you are going to repeat the same argument over and over again you shouldn't bother responding.

-Kakuzu isn't fighting Preta in one on one. His jutsu are absorbed by Preta then Asura's missiles counter his physical attacks. Whether or not they can hurt him while he's using Domu is irrelevant. Not to mention Asura would've killed Choji had Kakashi not saved him and Asura wasn't even in working condition.

-Deidara's bombs are tanked by the Cerberus. Stated already. :lol My god this guy.

 

[Nimaiya]

"Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. This isn't 1 on 1 combat so none of this matters. If you are going to repeat the same argument over and over again you shouldn't bother responding."
Mdaah
"Kakuzu isn't fighting Preta in one on one. His jutsu are absorbed by Preta then Asura's missiles counter his physical attacks"
Asura's missiles can't counter Kakuzo's iron skin hand. +, Asura just can't damage Kakuzo (Cuz his iron skin).
"Not to mention Asura would've killed Choji had Kakashi not saved him and Asura wasn't even in working condition."
Asura was out of the fight after 1 hit. only 1 hit, when Choji wasn't even able to scratch Kakuzo using more powerful technique. See the difference. Even in 2/1 (Asura/Preta vs Kakuzo). Preta can't move when he's absorbing a technique. Kakuzo can easily defeat them with iron skin + 1 random nature technique. When he'll use technique, Preta won't be able to move. At this moment, he can attack Asura and kill him with IRON SKIN : |
BTW, it was a plot... if choji had hit him 2 times (rather than 1) asura would have been dead. But....
"Deidara's bombs are tanked by the Cerberus. Stated already"
What ? Cerberus is so overrated :| Deidara can completly bang him. Rasen shuriken is a cellular technique (that doesn;'t really damage a body). Also, Kisame can catch it in the water prison.

 

[Mihael Keehl]

Team Akastuki wins.

Deidara can easily level the field and obstruct their field of visions

While Kisame, Kakuzu and Sasori take out some of the non-combative bodies (i.e. Preta, Human, Naraka)

 

[KidGamer65]

"Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. This isn't 1 on 1 combat so none of this matters. If you are going to repeat the same argument over and over again you shouldn't bother responding."
Mdaah
"Kakuzu isn't fighting Preta in one on one. His jutsu are absorbed by Preta then Asura's missiles counter his physical attacks"
Asura's missiles can't counter Kakuzo's iron skin hand. +, Asura just can't damage Kakuzo (Cuz his iron skin).
"Not to mention Asura would've killed Choji had Kakashi not saved him and Asura wasn't even in working condition."
Asura was out of the fight after 1 hit. only 1 hit, when Choji wasn't even able to scratch Kakuzo using more powerful technique. See the difference. Even in 2/1 (Asura/Preta vs Kakuzo). Preta can't move when he's absorbing a technique. Kakuzo can easily defeat them with iron skin + 1 random nature technique. When he'll use technique, Preta won't be able to move. At this moment, he can attack Asura and kill him with IRON SKIN : |
BTW, it was a plot... if choji had hit him 2 times (rather than 1) asura would have been dead. But....
"Deidara's bombs are tanked by the Cerberus. Stated already"
What ? Cerberus is so overrated :| Deidara can completly bang him. Rasen shuriken is a cellular technique (that doesn;'t really damage a body). Also, Kisame can catch it in the water prison.

They don't need to hurt him as the goal is to stop Kakuzu from hurting them. :lol What aren't you grasping about this simple logic? Choji and Asura never fought so stop mentioning them. "Plot" isn't an excuse. Preta not being able to move is irrelevant when there are 5 other paths and FRS is stronger than C2. "cellular attack" doesn't matter. Nothing you are saying here is based on anything so don't expect another original reply until you bring something new to the table, because your entire argument is "Kakuzo and Deidara kill Preta Path while the other 5 Pains watch". :lol

-Cerberus tanked FRS, thus any bomb is tanked.
-Kakuzu's jutsu are absorbed.
-If he tries to kill Preta while he absorbs then the other 5 protect him.

 

[Zexion~]

They don't need to hurt him as the goal is to stop Kakuzu from hurting them. :lol What aren't you grasping about this simple logic? Choji and Asura never fought so stop mentioning them. "Plot" isn't an excuse. Preta not being able to move is irrelevant when there are 5 other paths and FRS is stronger than C2. "cellular attack" doesn't matter. Nothing you are saying here is based on anything so don't expect another original reply until you bring something new to the table, because your entire argument is "Kakuzo and Deidara kill Preta Path while the other 5 Pains watch". :lol

-Cerberus tanked FRS, thus any bomb is tanked.
-Kakuzu's jutsu are absorbed.
-If he tries to kill Preta while he absorbs then the other 5 protect him.

When did it tank FRS which disintegrated a pain?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

When did it tank FRS which disintegrated a pain?

Cerberus tanked RS here

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[Zexion~]

Cerberus tanked RS here

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That was a large rasengan though, not FRS lol

 

[KidGamer65]

When did it tank FRS which disintegrated a pain?

That was a large rasengan though, not FRS lol

Lmfao. Literally looks nothing like Rasengan.

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[Zexion~]

Lmfao. Literally looks nothing like Rasengan.

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Yeah you right, does in the anime though.

 

[Nimaiya]

" Choji and Asura never fought so stop mentioning them"

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what is this ? choji's attack = choza's attack at this manga page. SO, Kakuzo's strenght, power and etc > Asura. He can easily kill Asura with only IRON SKIN. now you got it ? As you said, Asura & Preta vs Kakuzo. kakuzo can deal with them with only iron skin and 1 random nature technique.
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Okay, you said that : "Kakuzo and Deidara kill Preta Path while the other 5 Pains watch". Okay, you're saying it, but what about this one ? : -If he tries to kill Preta while he absorbs then the other 5 protect him --> others (Deidara, Sasori, Kisame). they watch, how others are protecting the Preta path ? lol
+ I've forgotten about sasori, who can kill Cerbers with poison : | Cerber is nothing compare with these monsters. The only problem here are Deva and Preta. each member of 2nd team, can deal with other 4 Paths of Pain