which jutsu is stronger kirin or sm frs

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Underline- In what scene was naruto using kurama's chakra?

Bold-What? So sasuke can infect the clouds with CM now?where do you come up with this sort of rubish?:lol


There is no inconcistency in this the reason why naruto had that much sage chakra was becouse he was standing still and gathering NE in the real world.

At first he went sage mode on kurama and only trowed one rasenshuriken then he turned back to normal, the second time he entered sage mode again and only throwed 1 rasenshurikens and spammed chou odama rasengans.

Don't see any inconcistency from it.
It's not applicapable at all. The fight didn't take place in the real world, it took place inside Naruto's head. Did Naruto actually meet a clone of himself that was evil? Nope. It's all a personficiation of will power. Naruto's will power > Kurama's will power.
 
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It's not applicapable at all. The fight didn't take place in the real world, it took place inside Naruto's head. Did Naruto actually meet a clone of himself that was evil? Nope. It's all a personficiation of will power. Naruto's will power > Kurama's will power.
They were at naruto minds as chakra AKA phisicall and spiritual energy thats why killer stated that if kurama would take all of naruto's he would have died.

Also explains why when naruto entered sage mode on the real world the one inside naruto mind also entered sage mode and not forgeting that the moment naruto entered sage mode his rasengan became bigger implaying that they where being enhanced by the NE that naruto was collecting on the real world.

The only moment that naruto's will helped him was when he had his chakra conected to kurama. The rest was his own power witch is why the moment that naruto hit kurama with the rasenshuriken kurama stated how can "he have so much power?"
 

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They were at naruto minds as chakra AKA phisicall and spiritual energy thats why killer stated that if kurama would take all of naruto's he would have died.

Also explains why when naruto entered sage mode on the real world the one inside naruto mind also entered sage mode and not forgeting that the moment naruto entered sage mode his rasengan became bigger implaying that they where being enhanced by the NE that naruto was collecting on the real world.

The only moment that naruto's will helped him was when he had his chakra conected to kurama. The rest was his own power witch is why the moment that naruto hit kurama with the rasenshuriken kurama stated how can "he have so much power?"

If this is your logic, and you believe this is consistent, I want you to admit that Naruto had an evil clone inside him all along.

And besides, this is still inappliciable. Bee states that the fight is between the will power of the Fox and Naruto. If all Naruto needed to do was beat the sh*t out of Kurama, there would have been no point in the whole subplot of eliminating Naruto's hate and doubt. But since Naruto DID need to do that, it shows us that will power was the crux of that fight. Otherwise Naruto could have just barraged Kurama and not worried about his hateful side.
 

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It's not applicapable at all. The fight didn't take place in the real world, it took place inside Naruto's head. Did Naruto actually meet a clone of himself that was evil? Nope. It's all a personficiation of will power. Naruto's will power > Kurama's will power.
Precisely. It is a battle of wills.
 

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If this is your logic, and you believe this is consistent, I want you to admit that Naruto had an evil clone inside him all along.
Okay i admited naruto had a darkside of his mind its called diferent personality/emotions witch everyone has.
Now... Will you also admit that naruto's rasengan was enhanced by the nature energy that the real one had gatuered? Because thats realy obvious and shows that he was trulley using his power chakra.

And besides, this is still inappliciable. Bee states that the fight is between the will power of the Fox and Naruto. If all Naruto needed to do was beat the sh*t out of Kurama, there would have been no point in the whole subplot of eliminating Naruto's hate and doubt. But since Naruto DID need to do that, it shows us that will power was the crux of that fight. Otherwise Naruto could have just barraged Kurama and not worried about his hateful side.
Well of course! It was thanks to naruto's will that he was able to touch and pull kurama chakra without getting corrupted thats how he was able to drain kurama thus wining the fight you act like naruto ended up defeating kurama with raw power:lol

Naruto used his will so that he could pull out his chakra he won the tag of war but that doesn't mean that the jutsu that he casted wont be able to work on the real life since what he did it wihile using his chakra and NE.

Literally no inconcistency here.
 
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Not realy because if that was the case it should have destroyed more then just the mountain, speaking of that it was still showing ruble all over the place.
That's irrelevant to the discussion, I was referring to how the nature of Kirin is akin to a lightning bolt, so the blast radius clearly wouldn't be as large when the nature of the attack denotes compression.

It depends on witch sort of futton rasenshuriken is as i already showed you before.
this is what sage mode rsenshuriken can do when it wasn't completed.
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The attack varietes, it can be condensed (like the time that naruto trowed then all at kaguya) or it can spread (like when he did it with madara) .
When compressed, the blast radius isn't even on par with a mountain busting attack such as Kirin which is the only thing pertinent to the discussion. In retrospect, it can encompass an area of a mountain, but that's meaningless when all of that damage is spread out.
 

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That's irrelevant to the discussion, I was referring to how the nature of Kirin is akin to a lightning bolt, so the blast radius clearly wouldn't be as large when the nature of the attack denotes compression.



When compressed, the blast radius isn't even on par with a mountain busting attack such as Kirin which is the only thing pertinent to the discussion. In retrospect, it can encompass an area of a mountain, but that's meaningless when all of that damage is spread out.
Which Naruto we talking about? current Naruto laughably counters any raiton ability in Sasuke's arsenal in a straight up clash. If Indra's arrow was any indiccation.
 

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These are generally accepted fanfic calcs by Naruto wankers.

Checkmate.
Those guys are professionals at what they do unlike you and the rest here spouting your shiity assumptions. These calcs are made by major uber nerds who waste hours of their life doing stuff like that,so it's legit. Even the highest calc I've seen for Kirin comes out at 36 mgt which is still below frs. Its no contest.

If NB used calcs for their arguments,it would make this place a whole lot better and less retarded.
 

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That's irrelevant to the discussion, I was referring to how the nature of Kirin is akin to a lightning bolt, so the blast radius clearly wouldn't be as large when the nature of the attack denotes compression.
Lmao icould show you so many lightning attacks that could make more damage then that, are you serious? kirin only destroyed a mountain thats it stop adding "baseless potential". [/QUOTE]


When compressed, the blast radius isn't even on par with a mountain busting attack such as Kirin which is the only thing pertinent to the discussion. In retrospect, it can encompass an area of a mountain, but that's meaningless when all of that damage is spread out.
I already showed you why the blast radius of the rasenshuriken actually ended exceeding the size of a mountain literally at my first post but if you are going to ignore that then i don't know what else to do.
 
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