Chibaku Tensei

[Mori Jin]

He can't establish a link of chakra with either of them because they cannot be caught in his genjutsu.

Don't even know what your trying to say here.

 

[adeshina365]

Referring to Sasuke's usage of CT as being coreless relates to the ability to form CT in place, without the need of the gravitational black sphere as a substrate.

 

[Holy God]

Don't even know what your trying to say here.

When Sasuke used his visual technique on the Tailed Beasts, a link of chakra was established with each of them (the basis of genjutsu is the target's chakra being disturbed by the caster's), so he could use them as a core. This is practically impossible with either Naruto or Kaguya.

 

[Mori Jin]

When Sasuke used his visual technique on the Tailed Beasts, a link of chakra was established with each of them (the basis of genjutsu is the target's chakra being disturbed by the caster's), so he could use them as a core. This is practically impossible with either Naruto or Kaguya.

Wasn't it described like this in the manga or databook?

 

[Holy God]

Wasn't it described like this in the manga or databook?

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[SenseiSama]

You just contradicted yourself, coreless CT means the use of CT without the orbs which Hagoromo did btw. Sasuke can use a core if he wants but he's smart enough to know Naruto would destroy them so he used the bijuu as the core instead, it was no different to Hagoromo using Kaguya as the core.

 

[Mori Jin]

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That's how Genjutsu works, it doesn't explain what you said about chibaku tensei.

 

[Mori Jin]

You just contradicted yourself, coreless CT means the use of CT without the orbs which Hagoromo did btw. Sasuke can use a core if he wants but he's smart enough to know Naruto would destroy them so he used the bijuu as the core instead, it was no different to Hagoromo using Kaguya as the core.

Coreless means Coreless asinine there is no core. Using the Bijuu as cores does not make it Coreless. So no I wasn't contradicting myself.

 

[Imperious]

They use chakra they're not made out of chakra.

No it ain't flawed because they're the only victims of this technique, and it ain't coreless the bijuu's were the core.

The people use chakra, the Bijuu's are made out chakra there's a difference.

No he can't you'd need a chakra core, as shown by Nagato, Madara and sasuke usng the bijuu's as a substitute. The Bijuu's were used as the core that's how.

They are not made solely out of chakra. A shadow clone is made out of chakra. A shadow clone does not have flesh or bones or even a nerve system, but rather its sensory organs function through the use of chakra. Considering its five senses are the only thing it requires to funtion efficiently, it doesn't have organs like a heart or brain. Therefore it is made completely out of chakra. However, this is not the case for tailed beast. It is true that they were created the same way a clone is, by splitting chakra and creating form from it. However, COAT (which is used to create the tailed beasts) is much more advanced than the creation of a shadow clone, and gives the tailed beast actual flesh and bones and organs. Spoiler Ginkaku and Kinkaku consuming Kurama's cuttable, consumable flesh. You must be registered for see images Kurama's under-flesh. You must be registered for see images Tailed Beast can be put under Genjutsu. You must be registered for see images A genjutsu is created when a ninja controls the chakra flow of a target's cerebral nervous system, thereby affecting their five senses. The Cerebral Nervous System is found in the brain. Implying that the tailed beast have a brain, one of many organs in their body. There are more examples, such as Gyuki's horn, a bone from his exoskeleton, being cut off and not disappearing like a clone or part of a clone would. If Bijuu were made of nothing except chakra, like a clone, they would disperse upon extreme damage.​

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[Vulpini]

Sasuke's CT is too OP

 

[Holy God]

That's how Genjutsu works, it doesn't explain what you said about chibaku tensei.

How do you expect Sasuke to turn something he has absolutely zero connection with to a core by simply clapping? He has to put his chakra into the target.

 

[Mori Jin]

How do you expect Sasuke to turn something he has absolutely zero connection with to a core by simply clapping? He has to put his chakra into the target.

That's not how it was explained (if it was at all), this is just speculation. He put them under a genjutsu to immobilise them nothing more. We all know what happens if you don't, the Bijuu breaks out.

 

[Holy God]

That's not how it was explained (if it was at all), this is just speculation. He put them under a genjutsu to immobilise them nothing more. We all know what happens if you don't, the Bijuu breaks out.

And it's also your speculation that Planetary Devastation can't be used on humans.

 

[Mori Jin]

And it's also your speculation that Planetary Devastation can't be used on humans.

No it isn't otherwise it would have been done by the other users of said technique so try again.

 

[Holy God]

No it isn't otherwise it would have been done by the other users of said technique so try again.

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Just because it hasn't been done does not mean it's not true.

 

[Mori Jin]

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Just because it hasn't been done does not mean it's not true.

Of course it does he hasn't done it before hasn't hinted at it either therefore it can't be done and he can't do it. Pretty straight forward.

 

[Holy God]

Of course it does he hasn't done it before hasn't hinted at it either therefore it can't be done and he can't do it. Pretty straight forward.

It has been hinted at by using Tailed Beasts. Once again, you're using a fallacious argument thus it doesn't support your point at all.

 

[Mori Jin]

It has been hinted at by using Tailed Beasts. Once again, you're using a fallacious argument thus it doesn't support your point at all.

It don't support yours at all. Chibaku Tensei works by using a mass of chakra as the core of gravitational purposes, you can use the bijuu's as substitutes as they're mass of chakra as well. It was never said/claimed/hinted at that humans can be used as a substitute for chibaku tensei. Try again

 

[Holy God]

It don't support yours at all. Chibaku Tensei works by using a mass of chakra as the core of gravitational purposes, you can use the bijuu's as substitutes as they're mass of chakra as well. It was never said/claimed/hinted at that humans can be used as a substitute for chibaku tensei. Try again

Clearly you don't understand what's happening here. I am not trying to say that my opinion is absolute. In fact, I specifically said it's "still a possibility." You, on the other hand, are trying to force your opinion as true without the slightest bit of evidence while I have a basis for mine. What you're saying in this post doesn't help you at all, once again. If Planetary Devastation works by using chakra as the core, then humans can be made so because they contain chakra. Of course, your first retort would be that humans aren't chakra themselves. It doesn't matter however, because he wouldn't be making the humans the cores then, but the chakra inside of them. I wonder what your excuse for this is?

 

[Mori Jin]

Clearly you don't understand what's happening here. I am not trying to say that my opinion is absolute. In fact, I specifically said it's "still a possibility." You, on the other hand, are trying to force your opinion as true without the slightest bit of evidence while I have a basis for mine. What you're saying in this post doesn't help you at all, once again. If Planetary Devastation works by using chakra as the core, then humans can be made so because they contain chakra. Of course, your first retort would be that humans aren't chakra themselves. It doesn't matter however, because he wouldn't be making the humans the cores then, but the chakra inside of them. I wonder what your excuse for this is?

No you don't have a bases for anything so imma repeat what I said.
"It don't support yours at all. Chibaku Tensei works by using a mass of chakra as the core of gravitational purposes, you can use the bijuu's as substitutes as they're mass of chakra as well. It was never said/claimed/hinted at that humans can be used as a substitute for chibaku tensei. Try again"