Dude says "God doesn't EXIST!" says this world is a mystery

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No one knows for sure whether or not god exits. If there is a god,he probably only exists for the purpose of creation and not the loads of bullshit various human religions describe him to be. The universe had to start from something.
 

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Because it makes your fate stronger when you attack others on there belief. So why not?
Why even attack other on their belief when they are not attacking you?

It's scientists (not all) that say God doesn't exist; science itself doesn't say anything.​
But some top scientists believed in God... not that it means anything, just correcting your claim.
 
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Why even attack other on their belief when they are not attacking you?
Because being attacking is better than being defensive and thinking the world looks pretty. When its not, its ugly. No one achieves anything without conflict. That is how heros are made, that is how villians are made. Sitting there all happy laughy is not how you grow as a person. You need to have real motivation to succeed. You never get it when something is given to you. You need to fight for it. That is how you will succeed. That is why its best to test your knowledge against others like we are doing here. It will help motivate you more to follow your faith. When you see how others without it are suffering.
 

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Because being attacking is better than being defensive and thinking the world looks pretty. When its not, its ugly. No one achieves anything without conflict. That is how heros are made, that is how villians are made. Sitting there all happy laughy is not how you grow as a person. You need to have real motivation to succeed. You never get it when something is given to you. You need to fight for it. That is how you will succeed. That is why its best to test your knowledge against others like we are doing here. It will help motivate you more to follow your faith. When you see how others without it are suffering.
Everything you said contradicts to the core of religious morals. :coffee:
 

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What are you views than? I bet its to sit there following your belief like a robot.
Certainly not blowing up people or burning them just to make them fear god. :coffee:

But it doesn't even matter what my views are. What you said in your previous post does not conform to any core religious text/moral. How can you "fight" for your religious beliefs if your methods don't even correspond to your religion in the first place?
 

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Certainly not blowing up people or burning them just to make them fear god. :coffee:

But it doesn't even matter what my views are. What you said in your previous post does not conform to any core religious text/moral. How can you "fight" for your religious beliefs if your methods don't even correspond to your religion in the first place?
@bold: Backing out as usual. You know your views are not that deep nor are they any better than mine. Hence why you back out before you get embarassed in public. Its ok I will applaud your insecurity and accept you are not man enough to say such words on a chinese forum.
 

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@bold: Backing out as usual. You know your views are not that deep nor are they any better than mine. Hence why you back out before you get embarassed in public. Its ok I will applaud your insecurity and accept you are not man enough to say such words on a chinese forum.
Eh? What does it even mean your views are better than mine?

And I'm backing off because I didn't want to get caught in exactly this kind of argument; arguing about whose beliefs are better. Wow man, it's really pathetic. I hope you are just being sarcastic here when you said that.

You can't be really religious if you think like this; you should just live and let live.

I guess this is why religion has such a bad name, huh.
 

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Your God can be a cow or elephantlike creature for the indians, a fat guy out of stone for buddhists, something unimaginable for muslims/christians or can be nonexistent

Let everyone believe in what they want, dont try to force them
 
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Eh? What does it even mean your views are better than mine?

And I'm backing off because I didn't want to get caught in exactly this kind of argument; arguing about whose beliefs are better. Wow man, it's really pathetic. I hope you are just being sarcastic here when you said that.

You can't be really religious if you think like this; you should just live and let live.

I guess this is why religion has such a bad name, huh.
Religion has nothing to do with my posts. I am talking about morals here. If you sit there without being challenged you are not living your life.
 

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While I agree with you OP, these sort of threads go no where and only result in insults back and forth, for the most part. But I guess this is all that attracts people to NB nowadays, huh? If this is how it's going to be, there should just be a religious/philosophy section.
 
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Eh? What does it even mean your views are better than mine?

And I'm backing off because I didn't want to get caught in exactly this kind of argument; arguing about whose beliefs are better. Wow man, it's really pathetic. I hope you are just being sarcastic here when you said that.

You can't be really religious if you think like this; you should just live and let live.

I guess this is why religion has such a bad name, huh.
His idea of religion is different than yours. Why cant you be tolerant and stop forcing your beliefs on him.
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Your God can be a cow or elephantlike creature for the indians, a fat guy out of stone for buddhists, something unimaginable for muslims/christians or can be nonexistent

Let everyone believe in what they want, dont try to force them
Are you really, Lyke? WTF
 

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OT: I don't believe in God, Lawrence Krauss he said that de universe come into existence from nothing, because the total energy of the universe will always 0 so.. is not necessary a divine force.
Anyway try to watch Closer to Truth, you will like this channel! :)
Lawrence Krauss' definition of "nothing" coincides with quantum vacuum, but quantum vacuum is not nothing - it indeed is something, namely, it consists of fields of energy in fluctuation. We know actually very little about quantum theories (there are something about ten models out there) and none of them really says that particles, let alone universes, can pop into being out of nothing.

On the other hand, nothing is not anything, it is "what rocks dream about" as Aristotle said. Nothing has no space, no time, no matter, no energy, and no properties at all. Out of nothing, nothing comes.

Thus, Krauss is guilty of equivocation fallacy, as he himself declared that he decided to give his book the title of "A Universe from Nothing" for mere marketing reasons.

I would suggest you, by the way, to listen to his debates with William Lane Craig and John Lennox. You would find them interesting I think
 
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