Serious question about Naruto and Sage of Six Paths!

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It's a gift from the Sage because his chakra gave Naruto the body to use the chakra of the 9 bijuu, Hagoromo was the one calling their name and uniting them in the meeting place. Before that Naruto was unable to access their power.

Nice fanfiction. :lol
 

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Was debating someone earlier. If Obito never gave Naruto the 1 and 8 tails, would he have still met the Sage of Six Paths?


Then how do Hagoromo able to visit Sasuke mind.

One common is that Hagoromo is not a real as he did mentioned and he need to visit both.
As both did have Hagoromo sons' chakra.

Lastly, the "Blue eye" boy which is refer to Naruto as mentioned by Sage (Toad).

Finally, Naruto could able to make all the bijuu to co-operate - as this is the first and final step.
 

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Yes, he would've still met Hagoromo.
Though if he didn't get the Biju chakra, he wouldn't have had access to the Six Paths senjutsu cloak that is manifested from channeling the chakra of all the Biju.

The only form of Six Paths Sage mode that he would've possessed would be the one he obtained from Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light.
That's his "Base RSM" and he lost that after the Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light went back to him, leaving him only with the cloak that he can access due to having the chakra of every Biju.
 

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Yes, he would've still met Hagoromo.
Though if he didn't get the Biju chakra, he wouldn't have had access to the Six Paths senjutsu cloak that is manifested from channeling the chakra of all the Biju.

The only form of Six Paths Sage mode that he would've possessed would be the one he obtained from Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light.
That's his "Base RSM" and he lost that after the Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light went back to him, leaving him only with the cloak that he can access due to having the chakra of every Biju.

pure fanfic
 

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Yes, he would've still met Hagoromo.
Though if he didn't get the Biju chakra, he wouldn't have had access to the Six Paths senjutsu cloak that is manifested from channeling the chakra of all the Biju.

The only form of Six Paths Sage mode that he would've possessed would be the one he obtained from Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light.
That's his "Base RSM" and he lost that after the Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light went back to him, leaving him only with the cloak that he can access due to having the chakra of every Biju.

can you show me a pic of this base rsm Naruto lost? I'm curious
 

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According to Black Zetsu, whether or not a transmigrant can meet Hagoromo is dependant upon the transmigrant's power. This statement along with some other evidence led me to a personal theory of mine about this:

I believe that a transmigrant can meet Hagoromo once they achieve the necessary components to awaken rikudou level power. Here is what I mean:

1. Notice that Naruto only met Hagoromo when he had finally been given the chakara of all 9 bijuus (which equates to juubi chakara which equates to rikudou power)?

2. Notice that Sasuke only met Hagoromo once he had obtained both Indra's and Asura's chakaras, thus making rikudou chakara (he was already Indra's transmigrant, and Kabuto gave Sasuke some of Hashirama's cells which would grant him Asura's chakara)?

Hashirama was strong, but he never got to meet Hagoromo inside of his subconscious mind like Naruto and Sasuke did because Hashirama did not obtain anything that would grant him rikudou power. He always just remained as pure Senju. No components of Uchiha or Indra. No bijuu power. Just Senju/Asura.

As for Madara, while he did obtain rikudou power by taking Hashirama's cells and awakening the rinnegan, I also believe that Hagoromo has a choice as to whether he wants to show up, and Hagoromo did not support Madara's plans and ideology, and he personally knew about the infinite tsukuyomi.

If this theory is correct, then yes, I think it was absolutely necessary for Naruto to have the bijuu chakaras before meeting with Hagoromo.
 

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can you show me a pic of this base rsm Naruto lost? I'm curious
I'm just referring to it as that since that's what the majority likes to call it, "Base RSM".
It's the Six Paths Sage mode that was stated to come from Hagoromo's Six Paths Power of Light. It doesn't come from the same source as his chakra cloak. That's stated to be a work of the Biju.

This is what he lost.
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Literally stated that the Six Paths Power of Light gave Naruto Six Paths Sage mode, so no. Any other conclusion saying otherwise is pure bias.

is that why naruto went six paths sage mode against sasuke after hagoromo took back his seals?...because naruto was "reliant" on the six paths yang seal?...LMAOOOOOOO
 

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is that why naruto went six paths sage mode against sasuke after hagoromo took back his seals?...because naruto was "reliant" on the six paths yang seal?...LMAOOOOOOO
Not sure how this is even relevant since his chakra cloak is stated to come from the chakra of the Biju, not Hagoromo's chakra.

The form without eye pigmentation but no chakra cloak was the form he gained from the Six Paths Power of Light and it gave him his healing power and the ability to infuse the chakra natures of the Biju into Rasengan. That is blatantly stated.
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This shouldn't be hard to understand.
 

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Not sure how this is even relevant since his chakra cloak is stated to come from the chakra of the Biju, not Hagoromo's chakra.

too bad the chakra cloak doesn't come from "the tailed beasts"...it comes from kurama

The form without eye pigmentation but no chakra cloak was the form he gained from the Six Paths Power of Light and it gave him his healing power and the ability to infuse the chakra natures of the Biju into Rasengan. That is blatantly stated.
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This shouldn't be hard to understand.

naruto entered six paths sage mode when hagoromo took back the seal...effectively rendering all this fanfic as null and void
 

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too bad the chakra cloak doesn't come from "the tailed beasts"...it comes from kurama
Was already stated that having the power of the 9 Biju makes him a pillar for Ten Tails' power which is Six Paths senjutsu, so no.
Only reason that Kurama is given specific focus is since that's the only full Biju that he has in his body. He only has fragments of chakra from the other Biju, so most of the chakra likely comes from Kurama.

Not sure how what you said here counters what I said anyway. The cloak has nothing to do with Hagoromo, yet you claim that it only comes from Kurama?
So that would mean that you're claiming that Kurama alone can produce a cloak that is comprised of Six Paths senjutsu which makes no sense.

naruto entered six paths sage mode when hagoromo took back the seal...effectively rendering all this fanfic as null and void
That's not fanfiction. That's an official VIZ released article. He didn't go into the Six Paths Sage mode that came from Hagoromo's seal.
He used the Six Paths senjutsu chakra cloak that is comprised of Biju chakra, his source of Six Paths senjutsu that was completely unrelated to Hagoromo.

It's stated by an official source that the Six Paths Power of Light gave Naruto "heightened senses, healing abilities, the ability to fuse the chakra natures of the Biju into Rasengan, the ability to levitate, etc."

You claiming my argument is fanfiction when I'm only posting official sources doesn't make any sense. If the source I'm posting says one thing and you're saying something completely different, then you're wrong. There isn't anything to contest there. No, the databook doesn't contradict anything that I'm saying, just in case you want to waste time with another meaningless response.
 
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Was already stated that having the power of the 9 Biju makes him a pillar for Ten Tails' power which is Six Paths senjutsu, so no.
Only reason that Kurama is given specific focus is since that's the only full Biju that he has in his body. He only has fragments of chakra from the other Biju, so most of the chakra likely comes from Kurama.

Not sure how what you said here counters what I said anyway. The cloak has nothing to do with Hagoromo, yet you claim that it only comes from Kurama?
So that would mean that you're claiming that Kurama alone can produce a cloak that is comprised of Six Paths senjutsu which makes no sense.

it's kurama's chakra mode...that's what the cloak is

not fanfiction. That's an official VIZ released article. He didn't go into the Six Paths Sage mode that came from Hagoromo's seal.
He used the Six Paths senjutsu chakra cloak that is comprised of Biju chakra, his source of Six Paths senjutsu that was completely unrelated to Hagoromo.

^^^ this is complete fanfic

It's stated by an official source that the Six Paths Power of Light gave Naruto "heightened senses, healing abilities, the ability to fuse the chakra natures of the Biju into Rasengan, the ability to levitate, etc."

You claiming my argument is fanfiction when I'm only posting official sources doesn't make any sense. If the source I'm posting says one thing and you're saying something completely different, then you're wrong. There isn't anything to contest there. No, the databook doesn't contradict anything that I'm saying, just in case you want to waste time with another meaningless response.

not what kishimoto wrote about six paths sage mode in his databook (THE OFFICIAL SOURCE WRITTEN BY KISHIMOTO HIMSELF)...and naruto would never have went six paths sage mode if hagoromo took back his source of power...this is utter common sense :sdo:
 

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it's kurama's chakra mode...that's what the cloak is
Kurama's chakra mode is this
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not a Six Paths senjutsu shroud.

^^^ this is complete fanfic
It's not possible for an official source to be fanfiction.

not what kishimoto wrote about six paths sage mode in his databook (THE OFFICIAL SOURCE WRITTEN BY KISHIMOTO HIMSELF)...and naruto would never have went six paths sage mode if hagoromo took back his source of power...this is utter common sense :sdo:
The databook states that Hagoromo gifted Six Paths Sage mode to him. The article I showed you says the same thing. Stop being dense.

Hagoromo's chakra had nothing to do with his chakra cloak, hence why he could still use it after losing Hagoromo's power.
The form with no cloak or pigmentation was given to him by Hagoromo and the cloak was Biju power completely unrelated to that. Such a simple conclusion that you still have not been able to address. Stop restating defeated points.
 

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Kurama's chakra mode is this
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not a Six Paths senjutsu shroud.

since when did six paths senjutsu come with a chakra cloak?...lmaooo the chakra cloak naruto dons in six paths sage mode is because of kurama...not because of any other reason

It's not possible for an official source to be fanfiction.


The databook states that Hagoromo gifted Six Paths Sage mode to him. The article I showed you says the same thing. Stop being dense.

so you agree with me...guess the one being dense here is you...lololololol

Hagoromo's chakra had nothing to do with his chakra cloak, hence why he could still use it after losing Hagoromo's power.
The form with no cloak or pigmentation was given to him by Hagoromo and the cloak was Biju power completely unrelated to that. Such a simple conclusion that you still have not been able to address. Stop restating defeated points.

@ bold naruto did not lose jack shit...get a quote from the manga specifically stating this then I'll agree with you...also you basically AGREE WITH ME in the rest of this comment...lolololololol
 

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since when did six paths senjutsu come with a chakra cloak?...lmaooo the chakra cloak naruto dons in six paths sage mode is because of kurama...not because of any other reason
No, his chakra cloak is stated to be a product of Six Paths senjutsu, which Kurama can't use alone, so you are wrong yet again. Naruto possessing the chakra of every Biju was stated to make him a pillar for the power of Ten Tails', which I will reiterate is Six Paths senjutsu.


so you agree with me...guess the one being dense here is you...lololololol
No, you're claiming that Naruto's power comes from some separate source of Hagoromo's chakra that was never specified. I'm claiming that it came from the chakra that Hagoromo was literally shown giving him which is the Six Paths Power of Light.


@ bold naruto did not lose jack shit...get a quote from the manga specifically stating this then I'll agree with you...also you basically AGREE WITH ME in the rest of this comment...lolololololol
We already saw the Six Paths Power of Light go back to Hagoromo, which was stated to give Naruto his Six Paths Sage mode, so any argument that you have would end there. Your argument on an official source being wrong just because Naruto retained the use of a chakra cloak unrelated to Hagoromo's chakra was already proven to be nonsense, so I'm not responding to that anymore.

We already have an official source stating that the seal, which was the chakra that Hagoromo gave to Naruto was the source, not some unspecified reserve that was never mentioned anywhere.
 

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No, his chakra cloak is stated to be a product of Six Paths senjutsu, which Kurama can't use alone, so you are wrong yet again. Naruto possessing the chakra of every Biju was stated to make him a pillar for the power of Ten Tails', which I will reiterate is Six Paths senjutsu.

quote from the manga or databook? (both official works written by kishimoto)

No, you're claiming that Naruto's power comes from some separate source of Hagoromo's chakra that was never specified. I'm claiming that it came from the chakra that Hagoromo was literally shown giving him which is the Six Paths Power of Light.

hagoromo stated he "gave his chakra away" when trying to summon the past kage...did you even read the story properly?

We already saw the Six Paths Power of Light go back to Hagoromo, which was stated to give Naruto his Six Paths Sage mode, so any argument that you have would end there. Your argument on an official source being wrong just because Naruto retained the use of a chakra cloak unrelated to Hagoromo's chakra was already proven to be nonsense, so I'm not responding to that anymore.

official quote from the manga for bold?...oh and if naruto did lose that power then he'd never be able to don six paths sage mode again...but he did...which would make you 110.0% dead wrong...lolololololol

We already have an official source stating that the seal, which was the chakra that Hagoromo gave to Naruto was the source, not some unspecified reserve that was never mentioned anywhere.

not what kishimoto stated in his databook...and kishimoto's words >>>> all
 
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