Are we even reading the same manga? Luffy lost countless times.
Just like falling 10,000 meters, getting hung, and being stabbed knocked him out instead of killing him?
First of all i was never talking about old WB i was talking about the current Yonko but yes she's weaker than old WB as well she is the weakest emperor and it's painfully obvious.
He was only unharmed cause WB could careless about killing him. If he'd have added Haki to his quake Kuzan would have been ruined. WB was not trapped at all he could have easily tossed away him Bisento with Kuzan on it thus getting him out of harms way Jozu was needed tbh.
Marineford Whitebeard isn't beating any male Yonko. You do realize those boxes are nothing but hype right? It is said that Kaido will always win a 1 on 1. So what should we take into consideration more huh? Whitebeard title was held as the strongest man in the world because of his prime. Not his current feats at Marineford and it's obvious.
Doesn't matter in the end Luffy came back and won. He's the main char thus he can beat any char in the series why? Because plot demands it don't argue with this.
Its not "painfully obvious." It seems the only reason you think Big Mom is the weakest is because she is female.
Yea I understand what you're saying but I'm saying strongest means they are likely to win the battle. Yea old wb is gonna have heart attacks but that's not a guarantee he got it due to the accumulation of attacks he tanked throughout the marineford arc it was the situation that made his fragility even more apparent . Oda used strongest with Kaido in the same fashion and he even threw in the in a 1v1 always pick Kaido. Strongest seems to imply you should likely win. But yea magellan can probably beat jimbei but being inside the prison suited his df ability.
Yea sure he didn't I'm sure stabbing an old guy with heart porblems isn't gonna lead to heart attacks. It's called snowball effect but I know those concepts don't make sense to you.
Power is one aspect of a fighters capability , reflexes are important in battle they would lessen his need to tank attacks. His durability would also increase when he was younger. Meaning a younger wb would have the same power but he more durable and harder to hit, that's a nightmare in terms of how hax he would be. So saying only reflexes is very disingenuous.
Whitebeard himself laughed off Squard's stab, so why would I factor that in when WB doesn't?
Haha I think we've been through this before but luffy thinks he can do just about anything but does that mean what he thinks is true. Wb isn't gonna sit there and say it's painful that's not his character. Many characters have laughed off attacks or things of that nature not something super uncommon
In the same breath, WB said he was dying. If he can say he's dying with no problem, then I doubt he'd have a problem with acknowledging Squard's stab.
That's some terrible logic everybody knew he was dying after the guy took the damage he did which was after the heart attack and many other attacks he took on top of that he was an old dude with an illness. You want him to quantify each attack he took, like tell akainu his magma punches really hurt. Yea wb seems like that type of dude lol.
"Everyone knew he was dying"
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The two things are different.
That's purely Marco's thoughts and opinion I'm afraid.
I don't give a good ****ing damn. Marco knows more about WB than you. None of those examples you listed are as credible as Marco mentioning that WB could have dodged Squard's stab even though he trusted him, since Marco fought with WB for 20 years while all of those examples are based on pure ignorance and misunderstanding.
Which point in time are u talking about, after taking immense damage it's obvious wb was likely not going to survive. He's not going to give you status updates on his health every two seconds what you're asking for is straight up stupid. What squardo gave him was the initial hit which accelerated his declining health by making unguarded hit close to his heart. But it wasn't a life threatening hit at the moment. This is called the snowball effect, no matter how much u spin it it's the truth. Wb made a pained face when he received the hit it wasn't any type joke whatsoever.
