Logically Naruto should be far faster than Sasuke in foot speed

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The most logical explanation is that Sasuke attained a speed that surpasses RSM Naruto with training.
 

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It's what happens when the Manga/Anime is made by someone else other than the original creator.

Feats are being Given to Naruto/Sasuke and the others by someone other than kishi, Thus their feats aren't going to make sense when compared to the manga kishi wrote. Just like whats happening in Dragonball super.
 

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People need to accept Sasuke ascended to a completely different level as an Adult. Sasuke's growth as Adult only implies he train very hard while Naruto didn't. Fact is Sasuke caught up to Naruto in the advantages Naruto was leading in, which are speed endurance and physical strength..

Naruto was leading as teens, not as adults..
 

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People need to accept Sasuke ascended to a completely different level as an Adult. Sasuke's growth as Adult only implies he train very hard while Naruto didn't. Fact is Sasuke caught up to Naruto in the advantages Naruto was leading in, which are speed endurance and physical strength..

Naruto was leading as teens, not as adults..
Naruto has the ability to train with his shadow clones and do in one hour what would normally take one month. Where's your proof that he didn't train at all over the years? And Sasuke has not surpassed Naruto and never will - your fantasy belongs in
 

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Naruto has the ability to train with his shadow clones and do in one hour what would normally take one month. Where's your proof that he didn't train at all over the years? And Sasuke has not surpassed Naruto and never will - your fantasy belongs in
Having the ability to train with shadow clones and actually training with shadow clones are two different things.
Naruto showed nothing new or even impressive since the 'last'.
What's with these people and the lack to comprehend? When did I say Sasuke surpass Naruto in this discussion?
 

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Naruto was leading as teens, not as adults..
Your own words. Naruto is still leading, and always will. My reading comprehension is just fine.

Having the ability to train with shadow clones and actually training with shadow clones are two different things.
Naruto showed nothing new or even impressive since the 'last'.
What's with these people and the lack to comprehend? When did I say Sasuke surpass Naruto in this discussion?

It's the same thing because he gets the experience from the clones when they are dispelled. The only thing he doesn't benefit from would be physical exercise, but something like that for someone who uses Sage Mode/RSM in conjunction with Bijuu Mode would be meaningless. He showed more than enough for a person like him. He even used shunshin as an adult without using his Kurama modes. Just because you didn't see enough to satisfy you doesn't mean he didn't train.
 

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Your own words. Naruto is still leading, and always will. My reading comprehension is just fine.



It's the same thing because he gets the experience from the clones when they are dispelled. The only thing he doesn't benefit from would be physical exercise, but something like that for someone who uses Sage Mode/RSM in conjunction with Bijuu Mode would be meaningless. He showed more than enough for a person like him. He even used shunshin as an adult without using his Kurama modes. Just because you didn't see enough to satisfy you doesn't mean he didn't train.
No, your comprehension is shit. Meaning they are equal. Means nothing when you can't prove he used clones to improve, or train in the last ten years.
 

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Well, technically yeah. Naruto has a bunch of things enhancing his physicality. Then again, sasuke has potent af chakra so that's probably why they could match each other in speed (in boruto at least).
 

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Well, technically yeah. Naruto has a bunch of things enhancing his physicality. Then again, sasuke has potent af chakra so that's probably why they could match each other in speed (in boruto at least).
The Boruto movie is the only thing that matters since it's the latest material we have and 15 years ago from VOTE2.
 

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Actually, Adult Sasuke doesnt has any feats that put him on par with Naruto or even close. him matching Naruto's speed against Momoshiki shouldnt be counted as this was coordinated attack. There are many examples in the manga for characters or jutsus that arent as fast yet they were matching each other in coordinated attacks and best example for that would be Darui matching V1 Ay in thier coordinated attack against Sasuke. What is fuuny is that people who say Darui isnt as fast as V1 Ay are the same people who say Sasuke is as fast as Naruto

No to mention that Adult Naruto should obviously be slower than his war arc self since he was undeniably utilizing inferior cloak than the one he was utlizing in war arc, that and Kuarma's statement about Naruto's rusty skills in the gaiden.
 
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Actually, Adult Sasuke doesnt has any feats that put him on par with Naruto or even close. him matching Naruto's speed against Momoshiki shouldnt be counted as this was coordinated attack. There are many examples in the manga for characters or jutsus that arent as fast yet they were matching each other in coordinated attacks and best example for that would be Darui matching V1 Ay in thier coordinated attack against Sasuke. What is fuuny is that people who say Darui isnt as fast as V1 Ay are the same people who say Sasuke is as fast as Naruto

No to mention that Adult Naruto should obviously be slower than his war arc self since he was undeniably utilizing inferior cloak than the one he was utlizing in war arc, that and Kuarma's statement about Naruto's rusty skills in the gaiden.
The first attack was definitely not coordinated. They both shushin blitz and got there at the same time, proving they are of equal speed. The second attack could have been a coordinated attack.

Adult Naruto shouldn't be slower, he now has full Kurama instead of half.
 

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His dojutsu comes from increased chakra potency or change in chakra which does effect physical abilities such as speed.
 

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The first attack was definitely not coordinated. They both shushin blitz and got there at the same time, proving they are of equal speed. The second attack could have been a coordinated attack.

Adult Naruto shouldn't be slower, he now has full Kurama instead of half.
That is exactly what coordinated attack means .they synchronize their attack so that they can hit the target at the same time .this happened many times in the manga .you assume that Naruto uses his top speed whenever he uses shunshin but that isn't true .

I don't think having full Kuarma instead of half Kuarma would compensate for utilizing regular karma cloak instead of rikudo senjutsu cloak (Jiubi Jin cloak) .RSM Naruto's stats feats while utilizing Rikudo senjutsu cloak doesn't automatically go to RSM Naruto who uses Kuarma cloak .as simple as that .
 

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That is exactly what coordinated attack means .they synchronize their attack so that they can hit the target at the same time .this happened many times in the manga .you assume that Naruto uses his top speed whenever he uses shunshin but that isn't true .

I don't think having full Kuarma instead of half Kuarma would compensate for utilizing regular karma cloak instead of rikudo senjutsu cloak (Jiubi Jin cloak) .RSM Naruto's stats feats while utilizing Rikudo senjutsu cloak doesn't automatically go to RSM Naruto who uses Kuarma cloak .as simple as that .
First of all this 'coordinated attack' ideal is nothing more than a assumption. So I'm not going o argue about something you can't prove. Sencod, Sasuke matched Naruto every step, and that's a fact. Third, we have no ideal if Sasuke used his full speed either so no point in bringing that up for Naruto's defense.

Second part is another assumption which I don't care to argue about.
 

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First of all this 'coordinated attack' ideal is nothing more than a assumption. So I'm not going o argue about something you can't prove. Sencod, Sasuke matched Naruto every step, and that's a fact. Third, we have no ideal if Sasuke used his full speed either so no point in bringing that up for Naruto's defense.
Second part is another assumption which I don't care to argue about.
It isn't an assumption ,Naruto's speed feats far surpasses any thing Sasuke has ever shown on his own ,this is a fact .if you want to compare between Naruto and Sasuke's speed ,you should compare between their solo feats .
Part 1 base Gai is faster than part 1 Kakashi (fact) ,yet they along with Asuma and Kurunai shunshin'ed as fast to protect Hinata from Neji in Chunin exams .

V1 Ay should be faster than Darui yet they shunshin'ed as fast when they attacked Sasuke together .

If synchronizing attacks didnt exist then Susano arrow would = Rasen shurukin = Biju doma = Yasaka Matagama speed wise ,which doesn't make sense since their solo speed feats and hype suggest that they aren't of equal speed .if syncronizing attacks didnt exist then you are telling me that by chance Dauri's storm bullets =Gara's sand bullets =Temari's fuuton bullets =Kinkaru's kunai's in terms of speed .which doesn't make sense .


I don't care if Sasuke used his top speed or not when his solo speed feats can't compare to Naruto's ,at least war arc Naruto .


You are the one who assumes that Naruto with inferior cloak and rusty skills would be as fast as Naruto with superior cloak and better skills .which doesn't make any bit of sense .
 

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This part is all speculation, but when you think about it, its not impossible for Sasuke to have improved leaps and bounds from his teenage self to his adult self. In fact, its been hinted that this would be the case. Throughout shippuden it has been said over and over again that Sasuke will eventually surpass Madara. Now when you see the difference between EMS Teen Sasuke and EMS adult Madara, the difference between them is light and day. So if what Kishimoto has been saying is true, and Sasuke closed the gap between him and Madara by his adult years, then you should begin to see just how much stronger Sasuke has been getting over the years. He never peaked in his teen years, rather he hit a growth spurt in his later years.
 

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All of Naruto's modes increase his physical attributes and Sasuke mainly uses his dojutsu which doesn't increase his physical attributes. Now I understand that Sasuke was always a speedster and was always naturally faster than Naruto but it still doesn't make sense with all the multipliers Naruto has.

Now some people may say that Sasuke is using rikudou chakra to enhance his but even if he is he shouldn't be equal to RSM Naruto in foot speed for the reasons I said above.

I just don't get it. Is it Sasuke's greatness ? Or is it plot ? I need someone to explain this to me.
Because as Sasuke's Dojutsu develops, so does his chakra potency which corresponds to even greater speeds. It's no surprise that Sasuke who trains his Dojutsu would catch up to Naruto.

That, and Naruto grew complacent for quite some time while Sasuke trained his ass off.
 
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