Trasngender and Mental Illness

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>doesn't want to take it further
>takes it further with even dumber shit

Defend as much as you want, homosexuality is not normal.

> Has no counter argument to biology
> trash talks
> Doens't know the word normal is relative
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Homosexuality in animals is a result of sexual disorder which also happens to humans, he is also right in the natural state humans genitals were made for reproduction purposes not "fun"

This is logic buddy natural no point in denying

All major medical organizations do not consider homosexuality a disorder of any kind. That is just your opinion.
 

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> Has no counter argument to biology
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> Doens't know the word normal is relative
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You can't counter anything I said either except with nonsensical opinions. Where are your sources? Where's your proof? Show me some credible research stating that homosexuality is normal. Go ahead, I'll wait.
 

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All major medical organizations do not consider homosexuality a disorder of any kind. That is just your opinion.

That's because it wasnt researched thoroughly , many of these doctors are afraid to be labeled "homophobic"

I guarantee that if they started searching again they will be blasted by everyone
 

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You can't counter anything I said either except with nonsensical opinions. Where are your sources? Where's your proof? Show me some credible research stating that homosexuality is normal. Go ahead, I'll wait.



"Is homosexuality a mental disorder?"

"No, lesbian, gay and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder."
 

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That's because it wasnt researched thoroughly , many of these doctors are afraid to be labeled "homophobic"

I guarantee that if they started searching again they will be blasted by everyone

And that again is an opinion. All data thus far say otherwise.
 

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You can't counter anything I said either except with nonsensical opinions. Where are your sources? Where's your proof? Show me some credible research stating that homosexuality is normal. Go ahead, I'll wait.

> Wants scientific research to prove something to a subjective word called "normal" and calls biology opinions

* The word normal is relative.
* Sexual intercourse results of sexual reproduction that was an anomaly at first.
* The word normal is relative, meaning it doesn't mean something must not exist just because it's not normal...

A more intelligent and argumentative orientated person needs no explanation from my premise points. Instead if he disbelieves it, he creates his arguments to refute my logic instead of immature bashing...
 

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"Is homosexuality a mental disorder?"

"No, lesbian, gay and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder."

Never claimed it was a mental disorder. You can try again.


> Wants scientific research to prove something to a subjective word called "normal"

* The word normal is relative.
* Sexual intercourse results of sexual reproduction that was an anomaly at first.
* The word normal is relative, meaning it doesn't mean something must not exist just because it's not normal...

A more intelligent and argumentative orientated person needs no explanation from my premise points. Instead if he disbelieves it, he creates his arguments to refute my logic instead of immature bashing...

Show some proof or shut up. Go get your proooooof. Get your reseeeeearch. I need faaaaacts not opinioooooons.
 

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It's still not categorized as any type of disorder by any major medical organization. Neither mental, sexual, or extra-terrestrial.

You need you get your facts. That Hashira guy loves text books so show me some textbooks. Show me some facts, will ya. Show me the facts stating homosexuality is "normal". Gotta put a double quote or else that other guy will keep claiming "relativez".
 

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You need you get your facts. That Hashira guy loves text books so show me some textbooks. Show me some facts, will ya. Show me the facts stating homosexuality is "normal". Gotta put a double quote or else that other guy will keep claiming "relativez".

You need you to stop dropping that excuse.

Again, I'll repeat myself. ALL MAJOR MEDICAL ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT CONSIDER HOMOSEXUALITY A DISORDER.

Google it if you like. You're not looking for the Illuminati password here, this is just what should already be common knowledge.
 

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All major medical organizations do not consider homosexuality a disorder of any kind. That is just your opinion.

Even tho I don't think it is either using them as proof isn't reliable since these conclusions are made by consensus and unlike real tangible illnesses their labeling is arbitrarily created so based on the political and social climate anything can be labeled a disorder even labeling things like depression a disease I don't agree with by making the issue simply biological they feel like they can't do anything but medicate themselves making everything we experience to just be labeled as diseases for the only solution being to medicate ourselves of it
 

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And that again is an opinion. All data thus far say otherwise.

Say what? They're only defending the argument that it isn't a mental disorder, which doesn't concern me because I already said it wasnt a mental disorder but a sexual disorder,

Again it's logic and isn't an opinion, the genitals are made for (I repeat) reproductional purposes
 

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You need you to stop dropping that excuse.

Again, I'll repeat myself. ALL MAJOR MEDICAL ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT CONSIDER HOMOSEXUALITY A DISORDER.

Google it if you like. You're not looking for the Illuminati password here, this is just what should already be common knowledge.

I checked, they don't claim it's normal. Go get me the source of your claim.
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It's still not categorized as any type of disorder by any major medical organization. Neither mental, sexual, nor extra-terrestrial.

Why waste time with the fodder... He confuses the word normal with right
 

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Say what? They're only defending the argument that it isn't a mental disorder, which doesn't concern me because I already said it wasnt a mental disorder but a sexual disorder,

Again it's logic and isn't an opinion, the genitals are made for (I repeat) reproductional purposes

No, to you specifically I stated that no major medical organization considers it a disorder of any kind.
 

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Why waste time with fodder... He confuses the word normal with right

Says the guy misinterpreting what I mean by normal. Laughable.
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I checked, they don't claim it's normal. Go get me the source of your claim.
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Well you obviously didn't check and just went default idiot mode.



"several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding."


Now, I'm gonna ask you to produce the burden of your proof. Prove to me that any major medical organization categorize homosexuality as a sexual disorder or any disorder for that matter.

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Well you obviously didn't check and just went default idiot mode.

"several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding."


Now, I'm gonna ask you to produce the burden of your proof. Prove to me that any major medical organization categorize homosexuality as a sexual disorder or any disorder for that matter.

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Penis: reproductive organ
Vagina: reproductive organ
Penis + Vagina = Baby
Penis + Man Ass ≠ Baby
Vagina + Vagina ≠ Baby

@Bold: Normal
@Red: Oh, boy, something really went wrong here.

That should be easy to understand. You just gotta follow Nature's natural order and how anything not natural is an error, kinda like cancer.
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