Is Itachi as fast as V1 Aye?

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Lmao don't ever quote me again Minato fapboy.

Sorry, couldnt you back up what you say Minato hater?

-It was stated that Base Ay and Minato are on par in terms of reflexes.

Stated where and by who?

-Minato reacting to Ay's fastest punch doesn't mean that Minato himself is more reflexive than Ay because reflexes and actual movement speed are different.

-Ay wasn't able to react properly because it was a back attack nor could he have reacted because Minato was practically on his back.

Ok, Minato reacting to his fastest punch doesn't mean he has more reactons. Ok. It just says that Minato Reactions > Raikage speed.
Raikage not being able to avoid Minato pierce by himself just means Minato's speed > Raikage's Reaction.

So if Minato is faster than what Ay could react and if Minato reacts to his fastest punch then it means he has better reaction since Ay wouldn't be able to react at Minato speed where is cleary that Minato can with his own speed.

And it doesnt matter if Minato was in his back, yes, Ay could barly see Minato but his body could not move an inch which means he didnt react in time to make his body move while Minato also needs to react to slash Ay at his top speed.

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Also what She said is not 100% trustworthy since he was like 11 when Minato died. So all what he knows is based in what he had heard.
 

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Sorry, couldnt you back up what you say Minato hater?



Stated where and by who?



Ok, Minato reacting to his fastest punch doesn't mean he has more reactons. Ok. It just says that Minato Reactions > Raikage speed.
Raikage not being able to avoid Minato pierce by himself just means Minato's speed > Raikage's Reaction.

So if Minato is faster than what Ay could react and if Minato reacts to his fastest punch then it means he has better reaction since Ay wouldn't be able to react at Minato speed where is cleary that Minato can with his own speed.

And it doesnt matter if Minato was in his back, yes, Ay could barly see Minato but his body could not move an inch which means he didnt react in time to make his body move while Minato also needs to react to slash Ay at his top speed.

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Also what She said is not 100% trustworthy since he was like 11 when Minato died. So all what he knows is based in what he had heard.


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Statement from canon stating that Ay w/o any Raiton enhancements has reaction speed and nerve transmission on par with your favorite. "What C said is not trustworthy" is irrelevant. Kishimoto put that in the story for a reason. You say he's not trustworthy based on what YOU think, but what YOU think is, as always, irrelevant. As for the rest of your post, underlined makes zero sense. Where was Ay unable to react? Oh wait, nowhere. B was able to intercept Minato's strike and he's not faster than Ay so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react. He simply can't do anything when Minato is on his back, and when he's in mid attack. "His body could not move an inch" is of course fanfiction you pulled out of your ass, but that's what you Minato fans do best.

In terms of physical speed Ay is far beyond Minato. Minato is only on par because he has Hiraishin and that is a fact.
 

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In conclusion Ay couldnt keep up with Minato when he was using his full speed and hsi full speed is V2. So stop. You dont know what you are saying.

Minato has more speed and reactions said many time and if you dont accept it then prove it.

And stated where that Bee was on pair with Minato?

Hahahaha

Funny how Minato fans are so invested in their character yet don't choose not to educate themselves at all.
 

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Statement from canon stating that Ay w/o any Raiton enhancements has reaction speed and nerve transmission on par with your favorite. "What C said is not trustworthy" is irrelevant. Kishimoto put that in the story for a reason. You say he's not trustworthy based on what YOU think, but what YOU think is, as always, irrelevant. As for the rest of your post, underlined makes zero sense. Where was Ay unable to react? Oh wait, nowhere. B was able to intercept Minato's strike and he's not faster than Ay so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react. He simply can't do anything when Minato is on his back, and when he's in mid attack. "His body could not move an inch" is of course fanfiction you pulled out of your ass, but that's what you Minato fans do best.

In terms of physical speed Ay is far beyond Minato. Minato is only on par because he has Hiraishin and that is a fact.


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Databook says fastest ninja OK. So who cares what you say, Kishimoto has talked.

So now you know why did Kishimoto put a statement? Or why would C who never knew Minato said that? It is obliviously that what C said is invalid. Let the ones who knows him talk.

This is the same when Dan says that the only one to be able to defeat Madara is Hashirama when we see him nailed to the floor and Gai almost defeating Juubi Jinchuriki Madara. ¿Why did Dan said that? Because he never knew someone else also able to do so.


And yes, Kishimoto put that for a reason, to show us how fast is Minato or to show us his reactions not to say he has less reactions when Raikage himself said he never could reach Minato.

If Ay says that then it means he could never punch Minato. So this means he is faster and has better reactions. In order to be able to handle you speed you need the reactions needed for.


" so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react"

¿Do you see him reacting? Yes Bee is slower, but the difference is that he was out the battle, it is a different perspective.



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Funny how Minato fans are so invested in their character yet don't choose not to educate themselves at all.

Educated in what or why do you say so?
 

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Databook says fastest ninja OK. So who cares what you say, Kishimoto has talked.

So now you know why did Kishimoto put a statement? Or why would C who never knew Minato said that? It is obliviously that what C said is invalid. Let the ones who knows him talk.

This is the same when Dan says that the only one to be able to defeat Madara is Hashirama when we see him nailed to the floor and Gai almost defeating Juubi Jinchuriki Madara. ¿Why did Dan said that? Because he never knew someone else also able to do so.


And yes, Kishimoto put that for a reason, to show us how fast is Minato or to show us his reactions not to say he has less reactions when Raikage himself said he never could reach Minato.

If Ay says that then it means he could never punch Minato. So this means he is faster and has better reactions. In order to be able to handle you speed you need the reactions needed for.


" so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react"

¿Do you see him reacting? Yes Bee is slower, but the difference is that he was out the battle, it is a different perspective.



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Minato is the fastest Shinobi because of Hiraishin. Fact. So the DB agrees with me and you have no point. C's statement isn't invalid because you want it to be. Not how it works son. Not to mention Dan said that at that time the only one who could defeat Madara was Hashirama, and he was right at the time because no one stronger than Hashirama appeared until the Juubi's Jinchuurki. C knows of Minato. C knows of Ay. End of story. Stop making petty excuses.

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Minato doesn't need to be as fast as Raikage physically to be faster than him as Minato teleports, Raikage does not teleport. Ay is stated to have equal reflexes to Minato w/o Raiton enhancement. B reacted to Minato's attack w/ a tentacle and managed to intercept him. The "he was out of the battle excuse" only holds so much weight. :lol

I've already explained why exactly Ay couldn't counter attack. Minato was almost literally on his back AND Ay was in mid attack.

The bold also makes no sense. Ay couldn't hit Minato because Minato is fast enough to react to his punch. How does being able to react to something mean that you have superior reflexes? Lmao. Again, you sound dumb.
 

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Educated in what or why do you say so?

If you had analyzed the Databook thoroughly, you'd have known that Minato only surpassed Raikage because of Hiraishin. Minato having the reaction speed to contend with Raikage in the mental aspect doesn't imply he can do so in the physical aspect. I don't even understand the logic in the first place considering physical reaction speed incorporates both the electric signals being transmitted through the brain (which causes mental perception) with the aforementioned signal later being sent throughout the body.

In simplest terms, mentally reacting to someone does not imply you can react to them physically and everything within the manga contradicts your belief. You can oppose C's statement if you'd like, but you'd be ignoring authorial intent as a result. Every statement the author provides has a purpose which in this scenario, was to highlight Raikage's supreme speed which aligns perfectly to the context of the presented situation: Raikage being ridiculously fast.
 

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He didnt react because he knew it was coming pretty obviously when the dragon came down out of the sky all he had to do was bring susanoo up which is still an asspull since no ones ever manifested it that quickly let alone someone dying

"...which is still an asspull..."
Heh, haters love to say this when Itachi overcomes their expectations. Stay mad.

Itachi's reflexes > your favorite's.
 

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"...which is still an asspull..."
Heh, haters love to say this when Itachi overcomes their expectations. Stay mad.

Itachi's reflexes > your favorite's.

....I love itachi he's my top 2 easy I call an asspull when I see it for any character
 

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No you're not a true Itachi fan.

Ive been faving itachi ever since he beat sasuke's ass in the hallway and experienced the power of his solo in this game
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Ive been faving itachi ever since he beat sasuke's ass in the hallway and experienced the power of his solo in this game
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Itachi was my fav ever since he stomped Kakashi with Tsukuyomi.
 

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Itachi's clone explosion is the og jutsu he doesnt need tsukiyomi to make kakashi look like fodder

Thanks to Tsunade he got up in a week; otherwise he would take years to recover, if he ever did that is.
 

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Thanks to Tsunade he got up in a week; otherwise he would take years to recover, if he ever did that is.

The ultimate Deus ex machina was itachi dying kishi created a character too powerful he had to kill him off
 

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Statement from canon stating that Ay w/o any Raiton enhancements has reaction speed and nerve transmission on par with your favorite. "What C said is not trustworthy" is irrelevant. Kishimoto put that in the story for a reason. You say he's not trustworthy based on what YOU think, but what YOU think is, as always, irrelevant. As for the rest of your post, underlined makes zero sense. Where was Ay unable to react? Oh wait, nowhere. B was able to intercept Minato's strike and he's not faster than Ay so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react. He simply can't do anything when Minato is on his back, and when he's in mid attack. "His body could not move an inch" is of course fanfiction you pulled out of your ass, but that's what you Minato fans do best.

In terms of physical speed Ay is far beyond Minato. Minato is only on par because he has Hiraishin and that is a fact.

Funny how Minato fans are so invested in their character yet don't choose not to educate themselves at all.

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Databook says fastest ninja OK. So who cares what you say, Kishimoto has talked.

So now you know why did Kishimoto put a statement? Or why would C who never knew Minato said that? It is obliviously that what C said is invalid. Let the ones who knows him talk.

This is the same when Dan says that the only one to be able to defeat Madara is Hashirama when we see him nailed to the floor and Gai almost defeating Juubi Jinchuriki Madara. ¿Why did Dan said that? Because he never knew someone else also able to do so.


And yes, Kishimoto put that for a reason, to show us how fast is Minato or to show us his reactions not to say he has less reactions when Raikage himself said he never could reach Minato.

If Ay says that then it means he could never punch Minato. So this means he is faster and has better reactions. In order to be able to handle you speed you need the reactions needed for.


" so please don't try to argue that Ay is too slow to react"

¿Do you see him reacting? Yes Bee is slower, but the difference is that he was out the battle, it is a different perspective.



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Dont even argue -

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